Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-22 Thread Tony
Skip, MT63-1000 has a -5 dB minimum S/N, but MFSK16 has a -13.5 dB minimum S/N, so the static tests you made must be at signal levels high enough that MT63-1000 decodes, which may not be a realistic level. That is true. Fortunately, there are times when signals are above the decode threshold

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-22 Thread kh6ty
- From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63) Skip, MT63-1000 has a -5 dB minimum S/N, but MFSK16 has a -13.5 dB minimum S/N, so the static tests you made must be at signal

RE: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-22 Thread David Little
, March 22, 2009 3:04 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63) Skip, MT63-1000 has a -5 dB minimum S/N, but MFSK16 has a -13.5 dB minimum S/N, so the static tests you made must be at signal levels high enough that MT63-1000 decodes

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-22 Thread Tony
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63) I would like to remind all, if you are not already aware, to turn AGC off when static crashes are an issue. If you are fortunate enough to operate in a mixed mode net

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread Jaak Hohensee
Tony wrote: The most impressive thing about MT63 is how it seems to resist heavy static crashes. I made a few recordings with short segments of the signal removed to simulate this type of QRN and there was little effect on copy. What about THOR? Thor stated to be more static-proof.

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread Tony
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63) Tony wrote: The most impressive thing about MT63 is how it seems to resist heavy static crashes. I made a few recordings with short segments of the signal removed to simulate

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread kh6ty
particular mission out of all the many available choices. 73, Skip KH6TY NBEMS Development Team - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread kh6ty
Tony, Further complicating the static crash test conclusions is the effect of the static on the receiver AGC. If a long AGC constant is being used, the static crash is going to desensitize the receiver for as long as the AGC holds the receiver sensitivity above the decoding threshold. In such

Re: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack of thereof

2008-10-15 Thread Tony
BROWNMFOauJgES OVER THE LAZYDOG THE QUIC BROW; FO_EJUC2Y OVER T? LAZj DOG - Original Message - From: Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack of thereof I have tested THOR22

Re: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack of thereof

2008-10-14 Thread Rein Couperus
for schedules 73, Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 13.10.08 22:42:25 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack of thereof Rick, On other thing that I can not understand is why THOR's

Re: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack thereof

2008-10-13 Thread Tony
is unique to Thor or is the mode simply less tolerable to signal spread as the path simulator indicates. Tony, KHMU - Original Message - From: Rick W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack

Re: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack of thereof

2008-10-13 Thread Tony
Rick, On other thing that I can not understand is why THOR's performance proved to be so poor on Tony's tests. Dave points out that this could be a sample rate problem. Fldigi did just fine with other modes during the HF path simulations so the question is whether the sampling issue is

[digitalradio] Thor Technical Description

2008-10-11 Thread w1hkj
The following is an excerpt from the web page Sights and Sounds of Digital Signals, http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/Modes/index.htm. THOR Modes General Description THOR is a family of offset incremental

[digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack thereof

2008-10-11 Thread Rick W
Great information, Dave, On other thing that I can not understand is why THOR's performance proved to be so poor on Tony's tests. The robustness to multipath and Doppler does not seem to show up although sensitivity at -15 dB SNR seems quite good. It might be understandable with the more

Re: [digitalradio] THOR

2008-08-08 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Matthew This is from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: garylinnrobinson wrote: Dave, This is exciting news - especially the Windows version and the Thor mode. One question though. MltiPSK has DominoEX and has a FEC button on it that enables FEC in the DominoEX modes. Is THOR the same as or

[digitalradio] THOR

2008-08-07 Thread matt gregory
HELLO, WHERE CAN I FIND SOFTWARE FOR THOR MATTHEW A. GREGORY KC2PUA

Re: [digitalradio] THOR

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I am not sure THOR has officially been released yet, it was in Beta testing last I checked. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:49 PM, matt gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELLO, WHERE CAN I FIND SOFTWARE FOR THOR MATTHEW A. GREGORY KC2PUA -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)

Re: [digitalradio] Thor

2008-06-20 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Simon Great news ! Have you also thought about implementing Patrick's ALE400 in your software? It is a fantastic ARQ mode ! 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Simon Brown skrev: I'll add it to Digital Master 780 as soon as Dave (fldigi) is happy with the mode. It'll take about one or two evenings,

Re: [digitalradio] Thor

2008-06-20 Thread Simon Brown
Hi Steinar, I haven't considered adding ALE400. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you also thought about implementing Patrick's ALE400 in your software? It is a fantastic ARQ mode !

Re: [digitalradio] Thor

2008-06-19 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Andy , Any news about the Thor mode ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien skrev: Yes, essentially. Andy K3UK On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, On the K3UK's Digitalradio Sked Page I am reading about a Thor mode. Is this

Re: [digitalradio] Thor

2008-06-19 Thread Joe Veldhuis
Thor will be in Fldigi 3.0, which should be released soon. I don't know of any other software that will be implementing it in the near future... -Joe, N8FQ On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:27:40 +0200 Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy , Any news about the Thor mode ? 73 de

Re: [digitalradio] Thor

2008-06-19 Thread Simon Brown
I'll add it to Digital Master 780 as soon as Dave (fldigi) is happy with the mode. It'll take about one or two evenings, that's all. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Joe Veldhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thor will be in Fldigi 3.0, which should be released