Re: [digitalradio] ALE400

2007-12-12 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, >Where on the bands can this mode be found? For this first question look at the mail hereafter, sent in the Multipsk group. >And does it sound like Pactor / Amtor ARQ ? Pactor 1 and Amtor are FSK modes (two frequencies). ALE and ALE400 are MFSK modes (as MFSK16 for example). So ALE4

Re: [digitalradio] RS-ID

2007-12-12 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Cesco and John, Here is an extract of the help about RS ID: "This "RS" ("RS" for "Reed-Solomon") identifier permits to, automatically, locate, any digital transmission done in one of the RX/TX modes handled by Multipsk (91 modes and sub-modes in 4.1.1 version). It is detected, in one han

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RS-ID

2007-12-13 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Cesco, >The 1.5 sec is too long to use it before every transmission, but good for the >initial transmission as you suggest. Yes during the QSO, waiting 1.5 sec is a bit boring, but for CQ it's OK. We'll contact in direct. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: cesco12342

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400

2007-12-13 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Hisami, >Can I find the MultiPSK ALE tutorial in the Internet? There is a Word document which goal is to show from Multipsk snapshots how to do the basic operations in ALE and ALE400. This document (1.1 Mo) is available from my site site "http://f6cte.free.fr/ALE_and_ALE400_easy_with_Mult

[digitalradio] New release (4.6) of MULTIPSK (PSK250 - DTM/DBM)

2007-12-15 Thread Patrick Lindecker
New release (4.6) of MULTIPSK Pour les francophones: la version française de ce message se trouve sur mon site (http://f6cte.free.fr). Il suffit de cliquer sur le lien "Principales modifications (courriel avertissant de la sortie de la nouvelle version)". Hello to all Ham and SWL, The new rele

[digitalradio] JT65 - work in team

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, I would be interested to study JT65 and, perhaps, add this mode to Multipsk (let's say before the end of 2008 or the beginning of 2009). The JT65 specifications are too much general and don't permit to build a code from them. I saw that the sources (Fortran and C or C++?) of JT65 e

Re: [digitalradio] JT65 - work in team

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Lindecker
m I interested, I am ahead of you - I hope to have this working with a C++ engine under Windows by about the end of March 2008. Originally I was targeting end of 2007 but decided to add SSTV support before finishing WSJT. The WSJT code is Fortran, Python and C (I think) which is very easy

Re: [digitalradio] JT65 - work in team

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Lindecker
and how to use it. I have written a lot of user interface but not yet attacked the decoding. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker * a file which name is WSJT-5[1].9.2-r115.tgz (I don't remember how I get it) with many files and *

Re: [digitalradio] JT65 - work in team

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Lindecker
who are also Hams but they just don't have the spare time for digital mode software. As you know writing a program is easy - the support takes up so much time it's just not true! Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message ----- From: Patrick Lindecker TKS for info.

[digitalradio] DXKeeper APP_DXKEEPER_SUBMODE field

2008-01-06 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Dave, >Patrick, the newest version of DXKeeper provides a sub-mode field; >it'd be nice if MultiPSK would log things like the Olivia tone >constellation there: APP_DXKEEPER_SUBMODE. Perhaps Simon and I can >convince the ADIF development community to make this a standard field. Yes it woul

Re: [digitalradio] ANNOUNCE: PocketDigi 1.0.11 released - JT65

2008-01-07 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Votjech, Why do you think to propose JT65 to your program. It would be quite nice to be able to do far QSOs with a Pocket PC and a small mobile QRP station. I have studied part of the JT65 code (TX part). It seems, a priori, not very complex and quite classical. I'll propose Delphi code

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ANNOUNCE: PocketDigi 1.0.11 released - JT65

2008-01-08 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Votjech, It's true that 2.69 Hz is not much. >I also thought about implementing your 400Hz ALE, but I was >intimidated by the DoD specification. I suppose that you mean the FS1045 specification. Simply send and receive AMD messages (without all the other features) is not very complicated a

[digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] ARQ FAE - ALE400 - NBEMS dumb question

2008-01-13 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Bill, It is theoritically possible. But ARQ FAE means two things: * a modulation: it is mainly issued from ALE (DBM), * an ARQ protocol: it is matched to this ALE DBM modulation and is issued from a mix between Pax/Pax2 protocol and ALE DBM. I took the idea of ARQ memory (which is indispe

Re: [digitalradio] Re: multipsk

2008-01-15 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Lynn, As said by Bill, you installed the program from the desktop (which must not be done): Multipsk considered the desktop as the installation folder and installed all the files in this "folder". To install Multipsk, read _READ_ME.TXT in the Multipsk package first. Hereafter is the begi

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redefining SSTV operations

2008-01-20 Thread Patrick Lindecker
ould make more sense to look at that approach. Then error correction could also be applied... 73, Sholto KE7HPV. - Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Lindecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redef

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redefining SSTV operations

2008-01-20 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Sholto, MFSK SSTV is an analogical SSTV mode with the originality that it is a narrow band SSTV mode (the same as MFSK) and the format of the picture is free (small or big as you want). It would be possible to put some RS prefix (with more bits available than for RS ID) to define the ce

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redefining SSTV operations

2008-01-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
two together and the mode will be widely available fairly soon. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 3:14 pm, Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Sholto, > >> Patrick, I just assumed that a digital SSTV mode in 500Hz that could >> send a > >> decent size picture

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redefining SSTV operations

2008-01-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
ut the cognitive overhead of switching to MFSK. PSK users probably wouldn't want to do this unless there is enough clear bandwidth available. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:54 am, Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello Leigh, > >> RSID is now available in open s

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redefining SSTV operations

2008-01-23 Thread Patrick Lindecker
en as its own mode. In reality, it would simply be MFSK and would start with the Open File dialog box for image types, and in the case of MultiPSK and PocketDigi, it would send the RSID for MFSK. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:48 pm, Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello Leigh, >

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redefining SSTV operations

2008-01-23 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Howard, > to remove clutter and I don't think he wants to get involved in that. No I'm going to get involved in that simply because there is no clutter. All is done in a logical way and done to switch rapidly without going in a menu (as I don't like menus and prefer buttons). But I unders

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Redefining SSTV operations

2008-01-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
blowing smoke in my directionwell, usually...uh...most of the time. Best Regards, Sir Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: "Patrick Lindecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [digital

[digitalradio] Redefining SSTV operations: SSTV_IN_MFSK16_EASY_WITH_MULTIPSK

2008-01-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Wed, 23 Jan 2008 1:07 pm, Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello Leigh, > >> So, I propose simply making it more easily accessible, for example, by > >> making it available on a main menu, or even as its own mode. In > > I understand. In fact the solution would be to

[digitalradio] Redefining SSTV operations: SSTV_IN_MFSK16_EASY_WITH_MULTIPSK

2008-01-25 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:31:46 -0800 (PST) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [multipsk] Redefining SSTV operations: SSTV_IN_MFSK16_EASY_WITH_MULTIPSK Patrick, That link does not work. Best regards, Gary, K7EK - Original Message ---- From: Patrick Lindecker <[EMAIL PROTECT

[digitalradio] Understanding image transmission

2008-01-25 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Sholto, It is an interesting mail. Can I QSP it to digitalradio? 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Sholto Fisher To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [multipsk] Understanding image transmission I think there is a little confusion creeping

Re: [digitalradio] packet software

2008-01-28 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Lynn, As far as I know, there are only two programs which can manage directly Packet through the sound card: Mixw and Multipsk. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: n0alo To: digitalradio Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: [digitalradio] packet software

[digitalradio] New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK

2008-01-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK Pour les francophones: la version française de ce message se trouve sur mon site (http://f6cte.free.fr). Il suffit de cliquer sur le lien "Principales modifications (courriel avertissant de la sortie de la nouvelle version)". Hello to all Ham and SWL, The new rel

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK

2008-01-31 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Frank, >Windows - No Disk Exception Processing Message 0xc013 Parameters Did you have this problem at the second starting? Or is it permanent each time you start it? >but still kinda clunky and cluttered. You see it cluttered, I see it in perfect order. Here is the way I see things:

[digitalradio] New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK

2008-01-31 Thread Patrick Lindecker
ns about Multipsk, contact the Multispk Yahoo group. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Paul To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:05 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK

2008-01-31 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Frank and all, I don't think Multipsk deserves all these mails. However thanks to all who present, in a better way that I could do it, this program. >Here's a screenshot of what I get to stare at for hours on end: http://evokefrank.googlepages.com/psk31qso Notice the full screen waterfall

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK

2008-01-31 Thread Patrick Lindecker
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:53 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New release (4.7) of MULTIPSK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Frank, > > >Windows - No Disk Exceptio

[digitalradio] Old RTTY machine - force the end of line sequence after 72 charcters

2008-02-01 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John and Ralph, >If it did not get a space, it would force the end of line sequence after 72 >charcters. In Multipsk (and perhaps in other soft) this option exists (button "1 CR/LF"/72 char."). It permits to communicate with old RTTY mechanical machine. But this option is OFF by default (

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Keeping NBEMS in mind

2008-03-02 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, >As far as FAE400 goes, I would like to try it. Too bad one >can only get it from one source. (gee that kind of makes it >just like pactor 3. Pactor 2 and 3 have private detailed specifications which forbid to even decode them (however it would be impossible to work them in ARQ with

[digitalradio] Fw: [multipsk] Test of JT65 on Multipsk / Essai du JT65 sur Multipsk

2008-03-02 Thread Patrick Lindecker
For important information about JT65 on Multipsk. 73 Patrick >you know what Patrick? it works really, really well and can live with the GUI >however you want it. TKS John! - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 Testing 3584kc USB

2008-03-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, To leave a mail to John, start the "Aux. fonctions" window and add "VE5MU" to your callsign list: - Write "VE5MU" in the edit label where it is written "Call" - click on the button"Add this call to the list" - click on the button "Lits up-to-date" Select VE5MU in the addressee lis

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY question

2008-03-29 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Mark, On the Mixw program, for RTTY 45 bauds, it is reversed internally, to keep compatible with traditional RTTY which is transmitted in LSB, if you are in USB. Multipsk does the same. So with these softs, you must stay in USB for all digimodes (including RTTY 45 bauds) and all bands, th

Re: [digitalradio] Mutiple rigs/One PC /Multiple digital modes

2008-03-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Dave and all, In JT65, the decoded callsign goes automatically (on option) to the QSO field. There is only to click on "Cluster". 73 Patrick Extract for the help Local "spot" ("L" option button clicked and "A" option button unclicked) "L" for "Local" is an option and not a command. It w

[digitalradio] New release (4.8) of MULTIPSK

2008-04-14 Thread Patrick Lindecker
New release (4.8) of MULTIPSK Pour les francophones: la version française de ce message se trouve sur mon site (http://f6cte.free.fr). Il suffit de cliquer sur le lien "Principales modifications (courriel avertissant de la sortie de la nouvelle version)". Hello to all Ham and SWL, The new rele

[digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] how ?

2008-04-20 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello David, With Multipsk, you can send, in Video ID, the mode but also your call, name, QTH, locator...but not "73" specifically. However, if you put "73" in your Locator information field, you could send "73" at any moment (with the macro). 73 Patrick - Original Message -

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Jeff, >example - SSTV, I've spent hours runnng MultiPSK trying to figure out which >variation of SSTV a signal is only to be rewarded >with nothing. If you are synchronized, Multipsk must automatically detect the SSTV mode either with the SSTV code or by assessing the type of SSTV forma

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, >But never had this problem using Feld Hell. The fun side of Hell modes (as fuzzy modes) is that you are obliged to investigate your brain on the decoding. On that sense, it is a bit as CW (in easier than CW however). The best Hell mode is for me FM Hell (which might be called MSK

[digitalradio] MultiPSK 4.8 doesn't decode all that great on Olivia ?

2008-05-13 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, Here is an extract of the answer I did in the Multipsk group plus some other results. >> I have also ran into at least 8 different stations running MultiPSK >> 4.7 or newer that I can't decode UNLESS I run MultiPSK 4.7 or later. I tried here generating Olivia 32-1000 towards an old

[digitalradio] "Digimode Identifiers" paper

2008-05-14 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, In the TAPR Spring 2008 PSR Journal ftp://ftp.tapr.org/psr/psr105.pdf it can be found a paper which title is "Digimode identifiers". Unfortunatly, it corresponds to the first version that I sent to Stan and not to the modified version that I sent to him several days after (after h

Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters-- an idea

2008-06-02 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Paul and all, You can found in my WEB site a paper (RS_ID_English.DOC file) which title is "Digimode identifiers" and which describes mainly Video ID and RS ID. Paste http://f6cte.free.fr/PAPERS.ZIP in your Internet Explorer or equivalent. Download the ZIP file and extract RS_ID_English.D

Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 auto speed change

2008-06-06 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Andy, In ALE or or ALE400 it would not possible (or not very easy) to switch of speed due that the transmission bandwidth which would vary in the same proportion. The ideal for that sort of thing would be to use a system close to the MIL STD 110A, with a fix modulation (8ary PSK for 110A)

Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 auto speed change

2008-06-06 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Rick, >Note that the bandwidth is perhaps five times wider for 2 1/2 times more >throughput. Normally it would be possible to have a 2000 Hz ALE at 250 bauds instead of 125 bauds. For, I suppose, a reason of frequency diversity, the shift between two adjacent tones in ALE is twice the bau

Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 auto speed change

2008-06-07 Thread Patrick Lindecker
1.0? What would happen if a slower baud rate were used with a single tone modem, instead of the high baud rate? (Of course it would not be MIL-STD anymore). 73, Rick, KV9U Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello Rick, > > >Note that the bandwidth is perhaps five time

Re: [digitalradio] What was on 30M last night - dual highspeed CW?

2008-06-07 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Paul, Do you try CCW-FSK at 48 wpm (in Multipsk)? 2 complementary modulated CW carriers are transmitted (a sort of RTTY with CW signs). 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Paul To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: [digital

[digitalradio] New release (4.9) of MULTIPSK (DGPS, Packet digipeater, ALE DTM and DBM, ARQ FAE improvement, CHM help files...) + a paper about APRS

2008-06-13 Thread Patrick Lindecker
New release (4.9) of MULTIPSK RX/TX: PSK10/BPSK31-63-125-250/QPSK31-63-125-250/CHIP (64/128)/PSKFEC31/PSKAM10-31-50/PSK63F - PSK220F + DIGISSTV "Run"/DTMF/CW/CCW/CCW-FSK/THROB/THROBX/DTMF/MFSK8/ MFSK16 (+ SSTV)/MIL-STD-188-141A (+ARQ FAE)/ALE400/OLIVIA/CONTESTIA/RTTYM/ VOICE/JT65/DominoF DF/Domi

Re: [digitalradio] Re: newbie wanting to make first packet contact

2008-06-17 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Doug, >> I would love an example of how to go about making a qso or connecting >> to a BBS or doing email. If you have the BBS callsign + SSID, the most simple is to use Mixw or Multipsk. In Multipsk 4.9, after selecting Packet+APRS: * put yout callsign in the "Sender" field , * put the BB

[digitalradio] Updated "APRS_easy_with_Multipsk" paper

2008-06-17 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, For the ones interested by APRS, I have updated the English paper "APRS_easy_with_Multipsk" with examples of use of digipeaters. It is based on the new 4.9 Multipsk version. In this document it will be found 4 snapshots of Multipsk screen with indications to the " how to operate "

Re: [digitalradio] Updated "APRS_easy_with_Multipsk" paper

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick Lindecker
see (and won't acknowledge) messages sent to them. They simply beacon their positions, as they move about. 73, Bob, KD7NM -- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [digitalradio] HF sound card e-mail

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Rick, > As far as scanning, I suspect very few of us want to do this. At least > for now. I am not sure how to set this up with Multipsk at this time. At the present time, automatic scanning in ALE through DXKeeper is limited to the licencied users. I prefer this solution (to limit the use)

Re: [digitalradio] Re: [hfdec] HFLinknet Feedback and Tips - The End

2008-06-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Rick, > why I am not able to send messages using DTM and DBM ARQ. Especially > helpful would be those who are using Multipsk. We could see what happens step by step either in the Multipsk Yahoo group or directly through mails (f6cte at free.fr) . 73 Patrick - Original Message - F

Re: [digitalradio] Re: [hfdec] HFLinknet Feedback and Tips - The End

2008-06-25 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Alan, >But since CR/LF treatment, etc all impact this type of thing there is no >guarantee yet. I have a doubt. Do you know if LF character (CHR(10)) is really managed for HFLink. Multipsk does not transmit LF as it is not useful for text (CR is sufficient and is worth for CR/LF). But if

Re: [digitalradio] Re: [hfdec] HFLinknet Feedback and Tips - The End

2008-06-25 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Rick, > Patrick has been unable to figure out the problem. In fact, between the > DXLab Commander program and Multipsk program, there was added code to > insure that the thumbwheel is not activated and yet it still causes this Have you tried to check the "No mouse wheel" option in the "Tran

Re: [digitalradio] Help with HFLink System

2008-06-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Rick, It would be worth to try with PCALE to know if the problem comes from Multipsk or from the protocol. To just send an ARQ DBM message: Store the destination callsign and your callsign, then: * menu "Data", * DBM MSG It will perhaps request a frequency. You put any frequency that you

Re: [digitalradio] Help with HFLink System

2008-07-01 Thread Patrick Lindecker
ck. I did have > some AMD messages go through, however there is no confirmation that says > that it has gone through so I have to trust that it is working OK. > Sometimes it will return a failure, but this can be much later on. Many, > many minutes later on. Perhaps there are other

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello all, Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia, which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It is built on the same principle as Olivia but with different parameters and a reduced set of characters. It is present at least on Mixw and Multip

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-05 Thread Patrick Lindecker
;Contestia" as one of its > modes. I am using version 2.18 and can find nothing on Contestia. > > Dick Z., kc4cop > > > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >

Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-05 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello, Multipsk can also be used for a sound-card terminal for Packet (with many other possibilities). But you can also use AGW Packet engine (and of course Mixw). 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: ""John Becker, WØJAB"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:41 A

Re: [digitalradio] multipsk 4.9 on linux pactor problem

2008-07-10 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Matt, I'm the author of Multipsk. It is curious no to run correctly Pactor1 FEC. Could you send me (or better to the Multipsk Yahoo group as it can interest other Hams and, moreover, some Hams use Linux) the information about this bug: first the text of the message and then the "scenario"

Re: [digitalradio] multipsk 4.9 on linux pactor problem

2008-07-11 Thread Patrick Lindecker
LINUX is UBUNTO 8.04 Thankyou for your time and hard work MATTHEW A. GREGORY KC2PUA - Original Message ---- From: Patrick Lindecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:05:20 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] mu

Re: [digitalradio] Re: KV9U - Mode Sensitivity / Robustness

2008-07-12 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello all, Another Patrick here. For an honest comparaison, logically the result might be normalized to a standardized text throughput (based, for example, on BPSK31). For example, the Olivia 32-1000 has a throughput of 24.4 wpm. MFSK16 about the same as PSK31 (a little less than 50). This bec

Re: [digitalradio] Re: KV9U - Mode Sensitivity / Robustness

2008-07-12 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Rick and all, One information about the S/N ratios on Multipsk. Normally, it is accepted 2 % of errors (because perfection would need a relatively higher S/N). However, it is theoritical: as for example, in QRSS (slow CW) it is not possible to appreciate 2 % of errors, except after hours,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: F6CTE mode sensitivity robustness

2008-07-13 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hz/sec etc. A steady signal source like WWV might be useful for this kind of measurement as well. Tony, K2MO - Original Message - From: "Patrick Lindecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: KV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: F6CTE mode sensitivity robustness

2008-07-17 Thread Patrick Lindecker
. > > I often see the effects of selective fading sweeping across the spectrum > with wide-band modes like MT63 and was wondering if there's anything we > can > tell about the refracting layers, phase and so on using this mode or > something similar? > > Thanks, >

[digitalradio] "RANKING THE DIGITAL MODES FOR THE STEALH QTH with Tables.doc" paper from Ed Sack (W3NRG)

2008-07-19 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello all, Ed Sack (W3NRG) issued a paper which name is "RANKING THE DIGITAL MODES FOR THE STEALH QTH with Tables.doc" at the "ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference 2007". Speaking of it, Ed aggreed to add his paper to my papers collection (PAPERS.ZIP file). Thanks to him. So the Ed

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-05 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello all, For my small experience about ARQ modes, it seems to me that: * a modern ARQ system does not really need a synchronous scheme as in Pactor (with obligation to permanently exchange frames). It must be asynchronous as Packet, Pax or ARQ FAE, at least to be able to share the frequency

Re: [digitalradio] Breaking News : AA6YQ Recognition

2008-08-08 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Congratulations Dave for this very deserved award and to permit other softs to interface and use this suite of programs through this "old but gold" link: the DDE one. 73 Patrick (F6CTE) - Original Message - From: Simon Brown To: DIGITALRADIO Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:13

[digitalradio] Crest factor in Pactor

2008-08-13 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello all, I was reading the general specifications of Pactor and I note a curious feature. The first mode of Pactor 3, with 2 carriers (in BPSK) specifies a crest factor of 1.9 dB (ratio of 1.55). Pactor 2 specifies a crest factor of 1.45 (in ratio)...1.6 dB Meanwhile, Pactor 2 applies a root

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Crest factor in Pactor

2008-08-14 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Votjech, > I wonder whether they reference their two tone crest factor to a > single PSK carrier? I think that it is the global crest factor as they gives an example: if the crest factor is 3 dB a 100 W SSB generates 50 watts, so that's true... > How about to shift one carrier in time by a

Re: [digitalradio] Crest factor in Pactor and other considerations

2008-08-14 Thread Patrick Lindecker
two tone BPSK100 mode in its most robust form. Thus, even if we > did not use adaptive speed levels for the changing ionospheric > conditions we would likely focus on the more robust capabilities but > still with moderately good speeds. > > It will be interesting to see wha

Re: [digitalradio] Crest factor in Pactor and other considerations

2008-08-14 Thread Patrick Lindecker
00 Hz) modes. > > SCS claims a very favorable figure of P2 and P3's ability to work deep > into the noise (something around -15 dB S/N?) but I don't know how much > ISI they can tolerate and no one who actually has this equipment has let > us know of their experi

[digitalradio] New release (4.10) of MULTIPSK

2008-08-23 Thread Patrick Lindecker
New release (4.10) of MULTIPSK RX/TX: PSK10/BPSK31-63-125-250/QPSK31-63-125-250/CHIP (64/128)/PSKFEC31/PSKAM10-31-50/PSK63F - PSK220F + DIGISSTV "Run"/DTMF/CW/CCW/CCW-FSK/QRSS/THROB/THROBX/DTMF/ MFSK8/MFSK16 (+ SSTV)/MIL-STD-188-141A (+ARQ FAE)/ALE400/OLIVIA/CONTESTIA/RTTYM/ VOICE/JT65/DominoF D

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulations for PAX / HF Packet

2008-08-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, TKS for the interesting tests. Did you test PAX or PAX2? with Unproto frames? 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Path Simulations for PAX / HF Packet All,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Path Simulations for PAX / HF Packet

2008-08-25 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, Glad you did measures for Pax. My figures are the following: Lowest S/N : - 10 dB for PAX and - 7 dB for PAX2 It corresponds to a Gaussian noise without any ionospheric distortion (your first case). In my figures, I accept an error rate of 2 % (2 characters false for 98 characters

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, About "slow" asynchronous ARQ modes as ARQ FAE, Pax, Pax2 and even Packet there is no much problem to have several dozens of ms in delay. This because due to sound card buffers, the obligation to work even with slow computers, and due to slow modulation, it is introduced big margi

[digitalradio] Path Simulations for PAX / HF Packet

2008-08-26 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, RR for all. If you have some spare time, some modes would be interesting to be tested (with Multipsk): - PSK10, - PSKAM10, - ARQ FAE in ALE400 (simply with "Unproto" APRS frames, as the ARQ memory can be used only when connected), - ALE AMD, DTM and DBM (DBM is the best ALE sub-mode

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-27 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Rud, In asynchronous ARQ mode, in all cases, it is necessary to bit synchronize the receiver as the receiver does not know when teh next frame is going to be transmitted (reversely, in synchronous ARQ mode this is not necessary as the RX knows exactly the time of the reception of the next

Re: [digitalradio] Digital Mode Path Simulations; Revised

2008-08-28 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, TKS for all data. It is interesting to have a completly different way to find the minimum S/N. I note that you find PAX a bit better than ARQ FAE (in APRS without ARQ memory). With my measures it was reversed (ARQ FAE:-11.5 dB against -10 dB for PAX). I was a bit surprised for P

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Path Simulatons Revised

2008-08-29 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, TKS for the comments. PAX/ARQ FAE >I don't allow for any errors and that can raise the minimum SNR by several db. >I show 85% copy with ALE400 at the 11.5db SNR level you >mentioned. Is that >what you're seeing? In fact I did ARQ FAE S/N tests with short ARQ FAE frames (31 character

[digitalradio] KISS feature of Multipsk (test version)

2008-09-16 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, The KISS feature is available in a test version. A next new test version (proposed in the Multipsk reflector) will improve this feature tested through UI-VIEW for instance. There won't be any licence necessary for this feature, so it will be open to any Ham able to interface or to

Re: [digitalradio] MT63 -- Mutlipsk, IZ8BLY, MixW

2008-09-26 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, About Multipsk, could you first (if not done) the MT63 sampling calibration by clicking on "Sampling freq." and start the automatic calibration. Note: in Multipsk there is a double correction: * determination of the sampling frequency offset between the TX and the RX sound cards. Th

Re: [digitalradio] MT63 -- Mutlipsk, IZ8BLY, MixW

2008-09-27 Thread Patrick Lindecker
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Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, The sample rate on Multipsk is 11025 samples/s for all modes except in MT63 where it is 8000. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes >> What were the

Re: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Mark, > touch anything at all while running the program, it > mutes my line in. Strange. Fldigi seems to work fine You must have chosen the "Software adjustment" in the Mixer menu of the Configuration screen (the "Line in" is muted in the mixer Volume menu but, of course not, in the mixe

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Stelios, >However, fldigi's default behaviour is to open the sound card at its >default (native) sample rate, usually 48 or 44.1 KHz, and then resample But how can you know the default native sample rate? With Multidem, I can work in full duplex in any sampling speed from 8000 to 192000 Hz

Re: [digitalradio] Sound Card general question

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Dave, As Simon says, the RTTY is very few sensitive to sampling rate as it is not a synchronous mode as PSK31. It means that the decoding is more or less done as CW. The decoding program has not to synchronize to the signal (to extract the exact moment when it will have to assess the bit

Re: [digitalradio] Sound Card general question

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, I think that with any program, you can check the sample rate calibration. In Multipsk, click on the button "Sampling freq.". You have automatic determination of RX and TX sampling rates at 11025 samples/s. You have also a test for MT63 (at 8000 samples/s). 73 Patrick Original

Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk's "Voice" mode

2008-10-04 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony and all, Yes Voice is done for blind or partially sighted Hams (very sensitive and automatic tuning). I added the same system in JT65, but in JT65 it is simpler as you need only the Function keys (F1 to F12) to do the QSO. In Voice and JT65, characters can be repeated to the speaker

[digitalradio] Multipsk's "Voice" mode (+JT65 vocalization)

2008-10-05 Thread Patrick Lindecker
on the Voice mode. I've noticed that the vocalization > audio is sent to the sound card output that goes to the rig. Is there a > way > to route it to the PC speakers instead? > > Thanks, > > Tony, K2MO > > - Original Message - > From: "

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question

2008-10-07 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Dave, It is simple. If the offset in sampling frequency is x% and the true AF frequency is f0, the displayed frequency f will be equal to f=f0*(1-x/100) Example: if the sampling offset is +1% and f0 is 1000 Hz, the frequency displayed will be equal to 1000*(1-0.01)=990 Hz 73 Patrick

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question

2008-10-07 Thread Patrick Lindecker
>I am therefore actually transmitting on 2439 Hz, or .9998% higher > than indicated > > Does that sound right? > > Tnx es 73 > Dave KB3MOW > > > Patrick Lindecker wrote: >> >> Hello Dave, >> >> It is simple. If the offset in sampling freq

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question

2008-10-09 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Paul, > Multipsk - will it store/save the correction between applications? No you must calibrate each application with the true sound card speed. > If I have a choice between a 16 bit external soundblaster and a 24 bit > external sound blaster, which should I use at what setting for best I

Re: [digitalradio] Windows Only: Soundcard Alternative

2008-10-09 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Simon, With the last Multidem which is a complete (but rustic) RX/TX SdR program, you can exchange data (RX/TX) with a client program through a TCP/IP link. The interface Multipsk/Multidem is done this way. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (KNS) To: Digit

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question

2008-10-10 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, As said by Vojtech the big problem is the synchronization. As there is no specific synchro signal, you must synchronize of the signal itself (using some non-linear function). The synchronization is primarily done for the theoritical modulation speed with the hypothesis of a pefect s

Re: [digitalradio] Contestia 1K vs MT63?

2008-10-11 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, According to my measures (under noise only): * "16-1K": "Fast" 16 tones, bandwidth=1000 Hz, speed=62.5 bauds, 78.2 wpm, lowest S/N =-9 dB, * MT63 1K: 100 wpm, lowest S/N - 5 dB for 10 bauds (perhaps -7dB with the original program) but due to the Pmean/Ppeak: 0.1, it is only theor

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question

2008-10-11 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, As far as I know, there are no public specifications or description of THOR modes. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "vk2eta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:01 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question > Vojtech and Patrick thank

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question

2008-10-11 Thread Patrick Lindecker
NBEMS Development Team - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question Hello John, As far as I know, there are no public specificatio

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Contestia 1K vs MT63?

2008-10-11 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Vojtech and Tony, > has very low crest factor, so the effective transmitted power will be An example, with a 100 watts HF transceiver, keeping linear: * you can transmit 10 watts of MT63, * you can transmit 76 watts of Contestia. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "Vojtech Bub

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