Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-22 Thread Simos Xenitellis
2011/6/22 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org: I checked those files as well. They are all 'noarch' (do not contain compiled programs; No Architecture), and contain the same .png branding images. The license not only covers the code, also the images. So if those images are in the program, the

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Manfred Usselmann
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:18:34 +0200 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org wrote: 1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box which says that if we are interested in the source code, we should read a specific Wiki page, for example

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Manfred Usselmann wrote: I see a problem here. Usually GNU/Linux distributions make modifications to the original source code. That means that the *real* source code will be the one from your distro and not the one you can download from the LibO website, hence the information will be

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Simos Xenitellis
2011/6/21 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org: 1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box which says that if we are interested in the source code, we should read a specific Wiki page, for example http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AvailabilityOfSourceCode I

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Þann þri 21.jún 2011 11:18, skrifaði Simos Xenitellis: 2011/6/21 Jesús Corriusje...@softcatala.org: 1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box which says that if we are interested in the source code, we should read a specific Wiki page, for example

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is wrote: Þann þri 21.jún 2011 11:18, skrifaði Simos Xenitellis: 2011/6/21 Jesús Corriusje...@softcatala.org: 1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box which says that if we are interested in the source code,

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Sirrý
Þann þri 21.jún 2011 12:11, skrifaði Sveinn í Felli: Þann þri 21.jún 2011 11:18, skrifaði Simos Xenitellis: 2011/6/21 Jesús Corriusje...@softcatala.org: 1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box which says that if we are interested in the source code, we should read a

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Þann þri 21.jún 2011 12:46, skrifaði Simos Xenitellis: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Sveinn í Fellisvei...@nett.is wrote: Þann þri 21.jún 2011 11:18, skrifaði Simos Xenitellis: 2011/6/21 Jesús Corriusje...@softcatala.org: 1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is wrote: Þann þri 21.jún 2011 12:46, skrifaði Simos Xenitellis: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Sveinn í Fellisvei...@nett.is  wrote: Þann þri 21.jún 2011 11:18, skrifaði Simos Xenitellis: 2011/6/21 Jesús

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-21 Thread Jesús Corrius
I checked those files as well. They are all 'noarch' (do not contain compiled programs; No Architecture), and contain the same .png branding images. The license not only covers the code, also the images. So if those images are in the program, the source code must include them. That's why the

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-18 5:39 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: And there is no better way to do this than have the 'git repositories' of the LibreOffice source code. You were correct earlier - he is merely pointing out that nowhere in the license agreement (I haven't read it so am not making the same claim)

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-20 Thread John LeMoyne Castle
Dennis, Tanstaafl, I take your point. Users that have 3.3.2 installed can only get the code for 3.3.3 from the website. As discussed above, I think this meets the spirit of the license but not the specific letter. Simon's idea about downloading the repo at the 3.3.2 marker is a great one, but

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-20 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:22 PM, John LeMoyne Castle lemoyne.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Dennis, Tanstaafl, I take your point.  Users that have 3.3.2 installed can only get the code for 3.3.3 from the website.  As discussed above, I think this meets the spirit of the license but not the specific

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-20 Thread Jesús Corrius
1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box which says that if we are interested in the source code, we should read a specific Wiki page, for example http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AvailabilityOfSourceCode I see a problem here. Usually GNU/Linux

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-19 Thread toki
On 18/06/2011 09:39, Simos Xenitellis wrote: The spirit does go well beyond the letter. Ideally, the 'git repositories' should be what everyone gets, rather than a source code snapshot that has no source change history. A couple of years ago I sent a question to FSF about meeting source code

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-18 Thread Simos Xenitellis
-Original Message- From: Simos Xenitellis [mailto:simos.li...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 17:44 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Derman
Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Ignoring the repetition on who is entitled to source code and how they are told about it, I would like to know the answers to some very specific, tangible matters closer to home. My

Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-17 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Ignoring the repetition on who is entitled to source code and how they are told about it, I would like to know the answers to some very specific, tangible matters closer to home.  My question is basically

RE: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I didn't say I didn't know how to do it. I didn't say I wanted to build it. This is about honoring the spirit of the free software promise. It is not even about building the code. People may want to do any number of things with the source code (inspect for bugs, for example). I *did* say I

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-17 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I didn't say I didn't know how to do it.  I didn't say I wanted to build it.   This is about honoring the spirit of the free software promise.  It is not even about building the code.  People may want to do any