Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-18 Thread Simos Xenitellis
-Original Message- From: Simos Xenitellis [mailto:simos.li...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 17:44 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-18 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Keith Curtis keit...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: Yet, Calligra and KOffice - which both have very similar codebases - have a much healthier relationship, etc. They don't see themselves as competing with

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-18 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-15 17.28: Maybe it's a language issue, but no, the imprint does nothing at all to make it clear. It simply says, in effect, FroDev wrote the content and they are responsible for the content on the site. It says nothing at all about the legal structure at all.

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Uwe Altmann o...@altsys.de wrote: Hi Garry Am 17.06.11 23:45, schrieb NoOp: In the past I'd answered a few questions regarding OOo ECCN[1] and pointed the poster to Sun's ECCN[2]. What are the implications for LO general with regards to ECCN? I do see that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-18 Thread Simon Brouwer
Op 18-6-2011 12:35, Florian Effenberger schreef: Hi, Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-15 17.28: Maybe it's a language issue, but no, the imprint does nothing at all to make it clear. It simply says, in effect, FroDev wrote the content and they are responsible for the content on the site. It says

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: snip I guess a slight risk that needs to be taken care of exists in all constellations. In the worst (!) situation, Apache could die as foundation, so could TDF. For TDF, it is rather unlikely, as German

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Derman
Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Ignoring the repetition on who is entitled to source code and how they are told about it, I would like to know the answers to some very specific, tangible matters closer to home. My

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-18 Thread Simon Phipps
On 18 Jun 2011, at 11:35, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-15 17.28: Maybe it's a language issue, but no, the imprint does nothing at all to make it clear. It simply says, in effect, FroDev wrote the content and they are responsible for the content on the

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-18 16.50: I think that if we go down that path we'll lose some valuable time revoting on it. The SC's mission ends when the BoD is elected and that is very clear, but until then, if decisions have to be made we should not refrain from making them.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-18 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com On 18 Jun 2011, at 11:35, Florian Effenberger wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-15 17.28: Maybe it's a language issue, but no, the imprint does nothing at all to make it clear. It simply says, in effect, FroDev wrote

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control

2011-06-18 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 10:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Uwe Altmann o...@altsys.de

Re: [tdf-discuss] Replacing OpenOffice.org with LibreOffice much easier than expected.

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Derman
I have a few observations to make, as to future changes/improvements. I for one am very reluctant to frequently upgrade any major software application that must be downloaded and replaced in its entirety, particularly if there is not a published list of the improvements in the new

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2011-06-16 08.18: If you do it in 2 months there will be (soon) a voted Board of Directors to determine this. Maybe the SC - as non-voted - only give a recommendation for the BoD and put it all in this direction put don't fix it. So it will be a (first)

[steering-discuss] Bootstrap BoD campaign (was: Joining the OASIS Consortium)

2011-06-18 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, this is indeed a good point... what do the others think? We can give our +1 as recommendation to the new BoD, but I guess it will indeed be hard to bind them on decisions they have not taken.

Re: [steering-discuss] grammar mistake in the bylaws

2011-06-18 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-06-15 12.45: is there a slight grammar mistake in the bylaws? They read change is incorporated now. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 |

Re: [steering-discuss] Applications to check

2011-06-18 Thread sophie
Hi Cor, On 18/06/2011 13:11, Cor Nouws wrote: [...] I've seen that you have several membership applications to check, do you want me to take care of them, do you want us to share them? What do you prefer ? Well, if you easily find time to do it, I would really appreciate that you pick them

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread sophie
Hi all, On 18/06/2011 09:58, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2011-06-16 08.18: If you do it in 2 months there will be (soon) a voted Board of Directors to determine this. Maybe the SC - as non-voted - only give a recommendation for the BoD and put it all in

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Tom Davies
From: sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 18 June, 2011 12:51:17 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium Hi all, On 18/06/2011 09:58, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, klaus-jürgen

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello everyone this is indeed a good point... what do the others think? We can give our +1 as recommendation to the new BoD, but I guess it will indeed be hard to bind them on decisions they have not taken. No problem for me as long as TDF is represented. I think that if we go down that

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Tom Davies
From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 18 June, 2011 19:18:40 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-18 16.50: I think that

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Charles-H. Schulz wrote (18-06-11 16:50) I think that if we go down that path we'll lose some valuable time revoting on it. The SC's mission ends when the BoD is elected and that is very clear, but until then, if decisions have to be made we should not refrain from making them. Indeed.

RE: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Since I am receiving reminders about my individual membership in OASIS, I can answer that question: No. There is no specific enrollment period or fixed calendar of memberships. Annual memberships are for the full year from the day a membership application is accepted. Since you are

RE: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread drew
Thanks much for the details. //drew On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 15:42 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Since I am receiving reminders about my individual membership in OASIS, I can answer that question: No. There is no specific enrollment period or fixed calendar of memberships. Annual

[steering-discuss] Fwd: Manifiesto de apoyo.

2011-06-18 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Can we add them to the support page? Thanks Olivier Mensagem original Assunto:Manifiesto de apoyo. Data: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:50:06 -0500 De: Gerardo Sagbay - Grupo Informático gerardo_sag...@grupoinfoec.com Para: i...@documentfoundation.org Manifiesto de