Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Cor, Seth, *,
Am 23.02.2011 21:49, schrieb Cor Nouws:

Hi Seth,

s kadish wrote (23-02-11 19:03)

Hi, this is the second time I've installed LO. Previously I installed
3.3,
and now 3.3.1.

Both times, at the end of installation, I was directed to a page
called Thank you for using OpenOffice.org, which is here:

http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920900

The developers might want to fix this, so that the completion of
LibreOffice
installation will lead to something more appropriate, like
http://www.libreoffice.org/. :-)


Thanks for reporting.
It has been mentioned before, but not fixed apparently - as far as I
know the cause is not clear yet. Once I did suggest one possible root of
the problem, but until now did not spend any time to find it out.

Would you be willing to help with some information?

If so: with the first installation of LibreOffice, did you have a
version of OpenOffice.org installed?
In that case, it is quite likely that with the first start of
LibreOffice (parts of) your old user profile are imported.
Then I expect that there is some data in the registry, in the user
profile, that is responsible for the link to the OpenOffice.org page.

Maybe we can find out what it is?


I have had the same Thank you website.
My system: WIN7 64bit (SP1)

I had installed OOo but deinstalled a longer time ago.
I'm getting this website every time when I'm installing a new LibO. 
Before I install a new LibO I always deinstall the prior but don't 
delete the user.


Now I have deinstalled LibO again, clean the registry automatically with 
a programm (ccleaner). After that I clean the registry by searching for 
openoffice.org, ooo, staroffice and soffice.
After that I installed LibO 3.3.1 (OOO330m19 (Build:8) tag 
libreoffice-3.3.1.2).

I got the website again.
And, if I have a look in the system control - program - programm and 
functions and clicking on LibreOffice 3.3 I get the message:

Supportlink and Hilfelink and Updateinformation: http://de.openoffice.org.
Only the Kommentare: LibreOffice 3.3.

I deinstalled it again.
After that I deleted in Benutzer-AppData-...-Roaming the folders 
OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Delete the installation folder and the 
LibreOffice folder in Programme (x86).


After a restart of the system I installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again and I 
got the same message.


Maybe this could help a little bit.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi klaus-jürgen,

klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (24-02-11 09:20)


I have had the same Thank you website.
My system: WIN7 64bit (SP1)

I had installed OOo but deinstalled a longer time ago.
I'm getting this website every time when I'm installing a new LibO.
Before I install a new LibO I always deinstall the prior but don't
delete the user.

Now I have deinstalled LibO again, clean the registry automatically with
a programm (ccleaner). After that I clean the registry by searching for
openoffice.org, ooo, staroffice and soffice.
After that I installed LibO 3.3.1 (OOO330m19 (Build:8) tag
libreoffice-3.3.1.2).
I got the website again.
And, if I have a look in the system control - program - programm and
functions and clicking on LibreOffice 3.3 I get the message:
Supportlink and Hilfelink and Updateinformation: http://de.openoffice.org.
Only the Kommentare: LibreOffice 3.3.

I deinstalled it again.
After that I deleted in Benutzer-AppData-...-Roaming the folders
OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Delete the installation folder and the
LibreOffice folder in Programme (x86).

After a restart of the system I installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again and I
got the same message.

Maybe this could help a little bit.


Thanks, a bit yes. ;-)
But could you pls also try to remove your old *user profile* first, 
before (re-)installing?

This is not found in the windows registry. But (on XP) it was in
  Documents and Settings\name\Application data\OpenOffice.org\3\..
or for LibreOffice:
  Documents and Settings\name\Application data\LibreOffice\3\..

Testing with removing (renaming) those folders, would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Cor


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[tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa

2011-02-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi,

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:54:33 -0600
Sonic4Spuds sonic4sp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just checked synaptic and all of the files in the ppa are listed as 
 version 3.3.0.0 rc4. Also made sure that it is getting the latest
 list from the ppa.

There are natty versions for 3.3.1. Beware of partial updates
however: Currently there is amd64 build for 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2
fnished in the ppa, while the i386 build (which also builds the arch
independant stuff like libreoffice-java-common) is not finished yet.

Backports for maverick will be added later.

 The ppa name is listed as lp-ppa-libreoffice/maverick   if there is a 
 different ppa that is official and the one I have is not then let me
 know.

just to clarify: there is nothing official about a ppa by definition.
If it is official, it is in the main repository.

Best Regards,

Bjoern

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa

2011-02-24 Thread Jaime R. Garza
Dear Bjoern,

I think a lot of people though it was an official LibreOffice PPA for
Ubuntu, not an official Canonical package:

http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/

http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/
Cheers!
Jaime

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 14:16, Bjoern Michaelsen 
bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:54:33 -0600
 Sonic4Spuds sonic4sp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Just checked synaptic and all of the files in the ppa are listed as
  version 3.3.0.0 rc4. Also made sure that it is getting the latest
  list from the ppa.

 There are natty versions for 3.3.1. Beware of partial updates
 however: Currently there is amd64 build for 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2
 fnished in the ppa, while the i386 build (which also builds the arch
 independant stuff like libreoffice-java-common) is not finished yet.

 Backports for maverick will be added later.

  The ppa name is listed as lp-ppa-libreoffice/maverick   if there is a
  different ppa that is official and the one I have is not then let me
  know.

 just to clarify: there is nothing official about a ppa by definition.
 If it is official, it is in the main repository.

 Best Regards,

 Bjoern

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[tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa

2011-02-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Jaime, Hi all,

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:33:23 +0100
Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think a lot of people though it was an official LibreOffice PPA for
 Ubuntu, not an official Canonical package:
 
 http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/
 
 http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/

well, the ppa is different from most other ppas as it is the ppa of the
libreoffice packaging team at Ubuntu. That is: it is the stuff we as a
team intend to put in the main repositories in the end.

However: As

 https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa

itself describes it best: LibreOffice test builds and backports.
Thats pretty clear. Please do not hold me accountable for any
journalist calling it different to make a good headline.

Yes, Canonical and Ubuntu will support Libreoffice, but we will not
race out a release to the main repositories, just so that we can claim
to be first(*).

Best Regards,

Bjoern


(*) If you dont care about the final stabilization fixes, you could
build an rc1 yourself and you will have your (almost) release a week
earlier. But if you wait for the final for a week, you should also wait
another day or two for the distribution adjustments.

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[tdf-discuss]Print Intentions for LO documents

2011-02-24 Thread Fernand Vanrie
With no luck I tried in the past to convince the OO developers to  
include Print intentions in the there documents.
We need to store some meta-data  about where and how the document will 
been published, On screen, printed on a Laser Printer, Printed by en 
professional Printhouse etc
This information is important to show the inserted graphics at the 
correct sizes. Now, LO and OO looks in the file header off the graphic 
file for the DPI who is stored by the Author off the Graphic (mostly the 
photographer). These is useless,  we need to define the DPI (what kind 
of printing will be used) )in the document and then calculate the amount 
off pixels we need to publish the Graphic at the  size who garanteed the 
best quality.
I supose it is not to complicated to code this feather, i do not know if 
ODF support this wanted Print Intentions ?


Thanks for any consideration

Fernand


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa

2011-02-24 Thread Jaime R. Garza
Dear Bjoern,

I don't think anyone is trying to make you responsible for anything, ;-)

We just kindly ask when would the 3.3.1 version be available in the PPA?

Cheers!

Jaime

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 15:36, Bjoern Michaelsen 
bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote:

 Hi Jaime, Hi all,

 On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:33:23 +0100
 Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think a lot of people though it was an official LibreOffice PPA for
  Ubuntu, not an official Canonical package:
 
 
 http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/
 
  
 http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/
 

 well, the ppa is different from most other ppas as it is the ppa of the
 libreoffice packaging team at Ubuntu. That is: it is the stuff we as a
 team intend to put in the main repositories in the end.

 However: As

  https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa

 itself describes it best: LibreOffice test builds and backports.
 Thats pretty clear. Please do not hold me accountable for any
 journalist calling it different to make a good headline.

 Yes, Canonical and Ubuntu will support Libreoffice, but we will not
 race out a release to the main repositories, just so that we can claim
 to be first(*).

 Best Regards,

 Bjoern


 (*) If you dont care about the final stabilization fixes, you could
 build an rc1 yourself and you will have your (almost) release a week
 earlier. But if you wait for the final for a week, you should also wait
 another day or two for the distribution adjustments.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

2011-02-24 Thread Phil Hibbs
Kohei:
 That's the wrong assumption I was trying to point out.  It's not always
 applied as-is, and in fact it's rare that patches be accepted as is.
 Even we don't do that too often.

Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your
patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this
bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach,
then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to
merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code?

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

2011-02-24 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 24/02/11 16:51, Phil Hibbs a écrit :

Hi Phil,

 
 Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your
 patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this
 bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach,
 then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to
 merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code?

At a wild guess, because there are not enough devs in the LibO project
to fix all the bugs in the current OOo code and develop new features at
the same time ? There is always hope that some of those rather annoying
bugs that seem rather hard to fix or obscure to determine might actually
get sorted out by the OOo project ;-) Look at Base for example...and I'm
just guessing.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

2011-02-24 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 15:51 +, Phil Hibbs wrote:
 Kohei:
  That's the wrong assumption I was trying to point out.  It's not always
  applied as-is, and in fact it's rare that patches be accepted as is.
  Even we don't do that too often.
 
 Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your
 patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this
 bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach,
 then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to
 merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code?

*sigh*

I'll keep it short.

* The decision should be up to the patch submitter.  We are not in a
position to tell him or her what to do.

* Since we are being asked, I took my liberty to state my prerence, and
my preference is to have the patch submitted to 

1) LibreOffice only
2) OOo only
3) both

in this order, because 3) increases our workload.  I'm making a
statement of fact.  If stating the fact is somehow unethical, I'll just
shut up and go back to handling the workload.

* I never said Let's hope OOo don't spot this or OOo will stagnate
and die.  I hope people will stop putting words into my mouth.

This is all from me on this thread.

And I really hope you will join us and help us reduce this workload of
managing code, Phil.  We could use lots of help there.  No talk or
circular discussion (like this one) will.

Have a nice day.

Kohei


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

2011-02-24 Thread Jaime R. Garza
I think it's inevitable that more and more differences of opinion will
arise, so I also believe LO should start their own independent path.

Just my 2c, ;-)

Jaime

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:51, Phil Hibbs sna...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kohei:
  That's the wrong assumption I was trying to point out.  It's not always
  applied as-is, and in fact it's rare that patches be accepted as is.
  Even we don't do that too often.

 Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your
 patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this
 bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach,
 then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to
 merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi klaus-jürgen,

klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (24-02-11 10:17)

*


I deinstalled it again.
After that I deleted in Benutzer-AppData-...-Roaming the folders
OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Delete the installation folder and the
LibreOffice folder in Programme (x86).


*



After a restart of the system I installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again and I
got the same message.

Maybe this could help a little bit.


Thanks, a bit yes. ;-)
But could you pls also try to remove your old *user profile* first,
before (re-)installing?
This is not found in the windows registry. But (on XP) it was in
Documents and Settings\name\Application data\OpenOffice.org\3\..
or for LibreOffice:
Documents and Settings\name\Application data\LibreOffice\3\..

Testing with removing (renaming) those folders, would be very helpful.


I have done this yet as I descripted above (see *). In WIN7 the
Benutzer is the link to Document and Settings.


Argh - sorry that I missed that (too much information in one line for me 
;-) )



But I deinstalled LibO again now as you descripted, deleted the user
profile, deleted the folders in programs (x86) and the installation
folder. I restarted the system and installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again.
I get always:
http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index_de.html?cid=920899
at the middle of copying the new files.


Hmm :-\
So that suggests that either there is something carried in with the 
windows-installer or that something is (hard) coded??


I have never seen that effect. Might be language depended?
Also, I run Linux and always do a parallel installation.
Have you tried that, or would you be able to do so?

Kind regards,
Cor

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Montgomery

The exact same thing happened to me, too.
I'm running Windows XP SP3

s kadish said the following on 2/23/2011 12:03 PM:

Hi, this is the second time I've installed LO. Previously I installed 3.3,
and now 3.3.1.

Both times, at the end of installation, I was directed to a page
called Thank you for using OpenOffice.org, which is here:

http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920900


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Cor Nouws schrieb:


I have never seen that effect.


Hi,

I also can't remember.

Did anyone check whether that message also shows up when you repair the 
installation?
I believe in the custom installation somewhere is a selection to 
deactivate check for updates. Did someone check whether that has an 
influence?

May be someone can attach a screenshot to a new Bug report?

Best regards

Rainer Bielefeld


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread Markus Gommel
Hi Cor,

Am 23.02.2011 21:49, schrieb Cor Nouws:
 Hi Seth,

 s kadish wrote (23-02-11 19:03)
 Hi, this is the second time I've installed LO. Previously I installed
 3.3,
 and now 3.3.1.

 Both times, at the end of installation, I was directed to a page
 called Thank you for using OpenOffice.org, which is here:

 http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920900

 The developers might want to fix this, so that the completion of
 LibreOffice
 installation will lead to something more appropriate, like
 http://www.libreoffice.org/. :-)

 Thanks for reporting.
 It has been mentioned before, but not fixed apparently - as far as I
 know the cause is not clear yet. Once I did suggest one possible root
 of the problem, but until now did not spend any time to find it out.

 Would you be willing to help with some information?

 If so: with the first installation of LibreOffice, did you have a
 version of OpenOffice.org installed?
 In that case, it is quite likely that with the first start of
 LibreOffice (parts of) your old user profile are imported.
 Then I expect that there is some data in the registry, in the user
 profile, that is responsible for the link to the OpenOffice.org page.

 Maybe we can find out what it is?

 Regards,
 Cor


I have the same Problem, a new installed Notebook with Win7 Home Premium.
The first touch on it was the installation of LibreOffice 3.3.0.

I got the same Page while installing.

Later i updated the 3.3.0 LibO, to 3.3.1 LibO and get the same Page
while installation.

Hope to resolve the Problem.

Best whishes an go on the way, to a LIBRE OFFICE

Markus




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[tdf-discuss] CALC-Unintended DATE formatting

2011-02-24 Thread OBUTEX/Hladůvka

In both versions 3.3. and 3.3.1 in Calc when I enter
text e.g. I1 into an empty cell it is changed to 1.1.2001
and it is not possible to change it untill 'I1 entered.

I really do not like such an irritating behavior - if I wished to enter 
a date I simply write the date.

I checked out all the language and list checks but the behavior persists.

Any idea how to change it?

Thanks, Jiri.



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