Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org
Hi Cor, Seth, *, Am 23.02.2011 21:49, schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi Seth, s kadish wrote (23-02-11 19:03) Hi, this is the second time I've installed LO. Previously I installed 3.3, and now 3.3.1. Both times, at the end of installation, I was directed to a page called Thank you for using OpenOffice.org, which is here: http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920900 The developers might want to fix this, so that the completion of LibreOffice installation will lead to something more appropriate, like http://www.libreoffice.org/. :-) Thanks for reporting. It has been mentioned before, but not fixed apparently - as far as I know the cause is not clear yet. Once I did suggest one possible root of the problem, but until now did not spend any time to find it out. Would you be willing to help with some information? If so: with the first installation of LibreOffice, did you have a version of OpenOffice.org installed? In that case, it is quite likely that with the first start of LibreOffice (parts of) your old user profile are imported. Then I expect that there is some data in the registry, in the user profile, that is responsible for the link to the OpenOffice.org page. Maybe we can find out what it is? I have had the same Thank you website. My system: WIN7 64bit (SP1) I had installed OOo but deinstalled a longer time ago. I'm getting this website every time when I'm installing a new LibO. Before I install a new LibO I always deinstall the prior but don't delete the user. Now I have deinstalled LibO again, clean the registry automatically with a programm (ccleaner). After that I clean the registry by searching for openoffice.org, ooo, staroffice and soffice. After that I installed LibO 3.3.1 (OOO330m19 (Build:8) tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2). I got the website again. And, if I have a look in the system control - program - programm and functions and clicking on LibreOffice 3.3 I get the message: Supportlink and Hilfelink and Updateinformation: http://de.openoffice.org. Only the Kommentare: LibreOffice 3.3. I deinstalled it again. After that I deleted in Benutzer-AppData-...-Roaming the folders OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Delete the installation folder and the LibreOffice folder in Programme (x86). After a restart of the system I installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again and I got the same message. Maybe this could help a little bit. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org
Hi klaus-jürgen, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (24-02-11 09:20) I have had the same Thank you website. My system: WIN7 64bit (SP1) I had installed OOo but deinstalled a longer time ago. I'm getting this website every time when I'm installing a new LibO. Before I install a new LibO I always deinstall the prior but don't delete the user. Now I have deinstalled LibO again, clean the registry automatically with a programm (ccleaner). After that I clean the registry by searching for openoffice.org, ooo, staroffice and soffice. After that I installed LibO 3.3.1 (OOO330m19 (Build:8) tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2). I got the website again. And, if I have a look in the system control - program - programm and functions and clicking on LibreOffice 3.3 I get the message: Supportlink and Hilfelink and Updateinformation: http://de.openoffice.org. Only the Kommentare: LibreOffice 3.3. I deinstalled it again. After that I deleted in Benutzer-AppData-...-Roaming the folders OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Delete the installation folder and the LibreOffice folder in Programme (x86). After a restart of the system I installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again and I got the same message. Maybe this could help a little bit. Thanks, a bit yes. ;-) But could you pls also try to remove your old *user profile* first, before (re-)installing? This is not found in the windows registry. But (on XP) it was in Documents and Settings\name\Application data\OpenOffice.org\3\.. or for LibreOffice: Documents and Settings\name\Application data\LibreOffice\3\.. Testing with removing (renaming) those folders, would be very helpful. Thanks, Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa
Hi, On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:54:33 -0600 Sonic4Spuds sonic4sp...@gmail.com wrote: Just checked synaptic and all of the files in the ppa are listed as version 3.3.0.0 rc4. Also made sure that it is getting the latest list from the ppa. There are natty versions for 3.3.1. Beware of partial updates however: Currently there is amd64 build for 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 fnished in the ppa, while the i386 build (which also builds the arch independant stuff like libreoffice-java-common) is not finished yet. Backports for maverick will be added later. The ppa name is listed as lp-ppa-libreoffice/maverick if there is a different ppa that is official and the one I have is not then let me know. just to clarify: there is nothing official about a ppa by definition. If it is official, it is in the main repository. Best Regards, Bjoern -- https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa
Dear Bjoern, I think a lot of people though it was an official LibreOffice PPA for Ubuntu, not an official Canonical package: http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/ http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/ Cheers! Jaime On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 14:16, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:54:33 -0600 Sonic4Spuds sonic4sp...@gmail.com wrote: Just checked synaptic and all of the files in the ppa are listed as version 3.3.0.0 rc4. Also made sure that it is getting the latest list from the ppa. There are natty versions for 3.3.1. Beware of partial updates however: Currently there is amd64 build for 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 fnished in the ppa, while the i386 build (which also builds the arch independant stuff like libreoffice-java-common) is not finished yet. Backports for maverick will be added later. The ppa name is listed as lp-ppa-libreoffice/maverick if there is a different ppa that is official and the one I have is not then let me know. just to clarify: there is nothing official about a ppa by definition. If it is official, it is in the main repository. Best Regards, Bjoern -- https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa
Hi Jaime, Hi all, On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:33:23 +0100 Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote: I think a lot of people though it was an official LibreOffice PPA for Ubuntu, not an official Canonical package: http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/ http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/ well, the ppa is different from most other ppas as it is the ppa of the libreoffice packaging team at Ubuntu. That is: it is the stuff we as a team intend to put in the main repositories in the end. However: As https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa itself describes it best: LibreOffice test builds and backports. Thats pretty clear. Please do not hold me accountable for any journalist calling it different to make a good headline. Yes, Canonical and Ubuntu will support Libreoffice, but we will not race out a release to the main repositories, just so that we can claim to be first(*). Best Regards, Bjoern (*) If you dont care about the final stabilization fixes, you could build an rc1 yourself and you will have your (almost) release a week earlier. But if you wait for the final for a week, you should also wait another day or two for the distribution adjustments. -- https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss]Print Intentions for LO documents
With no luck I tried in the past to convince the OO developers to include Print intentions in the there documents. We need to store some meta-data about where and how the document will been published, On screen, printed on a Laser Printer, Printed by en professional Printhouse etc This information is important to show the inserted graphics at the correct sizes. Now, LO and OO looks in the file header off the graphic file for the DPI who is stored by the Author off the Graphic (mostly the photographer). These is useless, we need to define the DPI (what kind of printing will be used) )in the document and then calculate the amount off pixels we need to publish the Graphic at the size who garanteed the best quality. I supose it is not to complicated to code this feather, i do not know if ODF support this wanted Print Intentions ? Thanks for any consideration Fernand -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: missing debs on ppa
Dear Bjoern, I don't think anyone is trying to make you responsible for anything, ;-) We just kindly ask when would the 3.3.1 version be available in the PPA? Cheers! Jaime On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 15:36, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Jaime, Hi all, On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:33:23 +0100 Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote: I think a lot of people though it was an official LibreOffice PPA for Ubuntu, not an official Canonical package: http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/ http://www.silicongadget.com/guides/software-guides/office-suites/install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-using-the-official-repository/2097/ well, the ppa is different from most other ppas as it is the ppa of the libreoffice packaging team at Ubuntu. That is: it is the stuff we as a team intend to put in the main repositories in the end. However: As https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa itself describes it best: LibreOffice test builds and backports. Thats pretty clear. Please do not hold me accountable for any journalist calling it different to make a good headline. Yes, Canonical and Ubuntu will support Libreoffice, but we will not race out a release to the main repositories, just so that we can claim to be first(*). Best Regards, Bjoern (*) If you dont care about the final stabilization fixes, you could build an rc1 yourself and you will have your (almost) release a week earlier. But if you wait for the final for a week, you should also wait another day or two for the distribution adjustments. -- https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions
Kohei: That's the wrong assumption I was trying to point out. It's not always applied as-is, and in fact it's rare that patches be accepted as is. Even we don't do that too often. Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach, then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code? Phil Hibbs. -- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions
Le 24/02/11 16:51, Phil Hibbs a écrit : Hi Phil, Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach, then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code? At a wild guess, because there are not enough devs in the LibO project to fix all the bugs in the current OOo code and develop new features at the same time ? There is always hope that some of those rather annoying bugs that seem rather hard to fix or obscure to determine might actually get sorted out by the OOo project ;-) Look at Base for example...and I'm just guessing. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 15:51 +, Phil Hibbs wrote: Kohei: That's the wrong assumption I was trying to point out. It's not always applied as-is, and in fact it's rare that patches be accepted as is. Even we don't do that too often. Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach, then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code? *sigh* I'll keep it short. * The decision should be up to the patch submitter. We are not in a position to tell him or her what to do. * Since we are being asked, I took my liberty to state my prerence, and my preference is to have the patch submitted to 1) LibreOffice only 2) OOo only 3) both in this order, because 3) increases our workload. I'm making a statement of fact. If stating the fact is somehow unethical, I'll just shut up and go back to handling the workload. * I never said Let's hope OOo don't spot this or OOo will stagnate and die. I hope people will stop putting words into my mouth. This is all from me on this thread. And I really hope you will join us and help us reduce this workload of managing code, Phil. We could use lots of help there. No talk or circular discussion (like this one) will. Have a nice day. Kohei -- Kohei Yoshida, LibreOffice hacker, Calc kyosh...@novell.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions
I think it's inevitable that more and more differences of opinion will arise, so I also believe LO should start their own independent path. Just my 2c, ;-) Jaime On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:51, Phil Hibbs sna...@gmail.com wrote: Kohei: That's the wrong assumption I was trying to point out. It's not always applied as-is, and in fact it's rare that patches be accepted as is. Even we don't do that too often. Nonetheless, saying it's better for us if you don't submit your patches to OOo is kind of like saying Lets hope OOo don't spot this bug/issue. It's ethically dubious. If this is the official approach, then why not just make a clean break with OOo and not even try to merge in any future OOo code changes with the LO code? Phil Hibbs. -- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org
Hi klaus-jürgen, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (24-02-11 10:17) * I deinstalled it again. After that I deleted in Benutzer-AppData-...-Roaming the folders OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Delete the installation folder and the LibreOffice folder in Programme (x86). * After a restart of the system I installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again and I got the same message. Maybe this could help a little bit. Thanks, a bit yes. ;-) But could you pls also try to remove your old *user profile* first, before (re-)installing? This is not found in the windows registry. But (on XP) it was in Documents and Settings\name\Application data\OpenOffice.org\3\.. or for LibreOffice: Documents and Settings\name\Application data\LibreOffice\3\.. Testing with removing (renaming) those folders, would be very helpful. I have done this yet as I descripted above (see *). In WIN7 the Benutzer is the link to Document and Settings. Argh - sorry that I missed that (too much information in one line for me ;-) ) But I deinstalled LibO again now as you descripted, deleted the user profile, deleted the folders in programs (x86) and the installation folder. I restarted the system and installed LibreOffice 3.3.1 again. I get always: http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index_de.html?cid=920899 at the middle of copying the new files. Hmm :-\ So that suggests that either there is something carried in with the windows-installer or that something is (hard) coded?? I have never seen that effect. Might be language depended? Also, I run Linux and always do a parallel installation. Have you tried that, or would you be able to do so? Kind regards, Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org
The exact same thing happened to me, too. I'm running Windows XP SP3 s kadish said the following on 2/23/2011 12:03 PM: Hi, this is the second time I've installed LO. Previously I installed 3.3, and now 3.3.1. Both times, at the end of installation, I was directed to a page called Thank you for using OpenOffice.org, which is here: http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920900 -- Best regards, Chris Montgomery -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org
Cor Nouws schrieb: I have never seen that effect. Hi, I also can't remember. Did anyone check whether that message also shows up when you repair the installation? I believe in the custom installation somewhere is a selection to deactivate check for updates. Did someone check whether that has an influence? May be someone can attach a screenshot to a new Bug report? Best regards Rainer Bielefeld -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org
Hi Cor, Am 23.02.2011 21:49, schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi Seth, s kadish wrote (23-02-11 19:03) Hi, this is the second time I've installed LO. Previously I installed 3.3, and now 3.3.1. Both times, at the end of installation, I was directed to a page called Thank you for using OpenOffice.org, which is here: http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920900 The developers might want to fix this, so that the completion of LibreOffice installation will lead to something more appropriate, like http://www.libreoffice.org/. :-) Thanks for reporting. It has been mentioned before, but not fixed apparently - as far as I know the cause is not clear yet. Once I did suggest one possible root of the problem, but until now did not spend any time to find it out. Would you be willing to help with some information? If so: with the first installation of LibreOffice, did you have a version of OpenOffice.org installed? In that case, it is quite likely that with the first start of LibreOffice (parts of) your old user profile are imported. Then I expect that there is some data in the registry, in the user profile, that is responsible for the link to the OpenOffice.org page. Maybe we can find out what it is? Regards, Cor I have the same Problem, a new installed Notebook with Win7 Home Premium. The first touch on it was the installation of LibreOffice 3.3.0. I got the same Page while installing. Later i updated the 3.3.0 LibO, to 3.3.1 LibO and get the same Page while installation. Hope to resolve the Problem. Best whishes an go on the way, to a LIBRE OFFICE Markus -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] CALC-Unintended DATE formatting
In both versions 3.3. and 3.3.1 in Calc when I enter text e.g. I1 into an empty cell it is changed to 1.1.2001 and it is not possible to change it untill 'I1 entered. I really do not like such an irritating behavior - if I wished to enter a date I simply write the date. I checked out all the language and list checks but the behavior persists. Any idea how to change it? Thanks, Jiri. -- OBUTEX spol. s r.o. Ing. Jiří Hladůvka Zlatovská 22 911 05 Trenčín EU Slovakia -- mailto:ad...@obutex.com http://www.obutex.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***