Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-31 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote: With the caveat that Thorsten must resign as MC-deputy, since one cannot be BoD and MC member at once. good point, indeed. Thorsten, in case you get voted as election officer, would you step back from your MC deputy role? Hi Florian, all, yes indeed, as a board

Re: [steering-discuss] freezing membership applications

2011-10-31 Thread Jesús Corrius
Hi all, Not really - it's 3 weeks from candidate introduction to end of election, compared to 2 weeks for the usual MC meeting cadence. I agree that there are no strong, hard arguments for or against either procedure, I just have the impression it appears much cleaner to suspend MC work

Re: [steering-discuss] appointing Thorsten as election officer for MC

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sun, 2011-10-30 at 16:27 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: As Thorsten is elected BoD member, he is not running for an MC seat, and thus should have no conflict of interest in acting as election officer. +1. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot --

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sun, 2011-10-30 at 13:28 -0200, David Emmerich Jourdain wrote: - In a nutshell, this means: We either can decide to nominate the current MC as the first MC and have a gentlemen's agreement that they step back as soon as the foundation is in place, leading to new elections about 45 days

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-10-31 11:41: a) it -may- allow us to setup the foundation more quickly, at least we are not blocking on a fairly artificial timeline I think if so, it just would delay two weeks, IMHO noncritical after this amount of time. b)

[steering-discuss] minutes of conf-call 2011-10-29 ...

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, Sorry for the delay, weekend got in the way, no doubt this is not the canonical location for these, but ... hopefully someone can fix that for me. Action items are prefixed with 'AA'. Thanks, Michael. Present: Andre, Andreas, Bjoern, Thorsten,

Re: [steering-discuss] minutes of conf-call 2011-10-29 ...

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-10-31 12:51: Sorry for the delay, weekend got in the way, no doubt this is not the canonical location for these, but ... hopefully someone can fix that for me. Action items are prefixed with 'AA'. thanks! Added this to

Re: [steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-10-31 16:52: I'm fine with the model - jus wanted to say, that there still bneeds to be avote. ok, that's true - but that's what I meant with nominate. :-) IMHO, the statutes foresee no detailed voting rules like for the BoD or MC elections. Seems I will

Re: side-note Re: [steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Tom, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-10-30 20:07: Florian. It is good to have these issues dealt with. There is no need to apologise for 'spam' as it is all relevant and important stuff. If these issue weren't raised today they would have to be raised another day and they are the type of thing

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 30.10.2011 23:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: NOTE: There is no German Language Forum at OpenOffice.org. You are talking about the forums formerly hosted by Sun/Oracle, right? There have always been pure community-driven forums at http://openoffice.info/ This site points to Englisch,

[tdf-discuss] Just a question

2011-10-31 Thread Jean-Paul Ghys
But first a statement !Godammit !It is awfully difficult to get in touch with the LibreOffice Foundation !Remember:Kiss !This is not a claim. Just wishng to understand. And speaking in a language which is not my mother language.Can you understand this ?I was just saying - but

Re: [steering-discuss] freezing membership applications

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2011-10-30 17:31: I do not see the conflict. Either way these MC members running for re-election can approve new member before the freeze-date Either way these MC members cannot benefit from approving membership after the freeze (they cannot stuff the ballot since

Re: [steering-discuss] freezing membership applications

2011-10-31 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:35:20 + Von: Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 10:34 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Not really - it's 3 weeks from candidate introduction to end of election, compared to 2 weeks for the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Just a question

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jean-Paul Ghys wrote on 2011-10-30 00:41: But first a statement !Godammit !It is awfully difficult to get in touch with the LibreOffice Foundation !Remember:Kiss !This is not a claim. Just wishng to understand. And speaking in it is not. ;-) There is a contact section on the

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Marc-André Laverdière wrote: I think that most people on the mailing list know about stack exchange, and how rockin' it is. I think it would bee a) cool and b) a boon to our mutual users to just migrate our forums to stack exchange. Seems someone else already had that idea:

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Well, it turns out many people seem to want to use forums, and most of them are not technical, they are end users so I don't expect they have the same needs as developers. I just assume there's no fundamental truth in either mailing list or forums usage... No idea.

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Simon Phipps
On 31 Oct 2011, at 11:33, Thorsten Behrens wrote: what *I* think is that Joe Random User typically wields his search engine of choice, and clicks on whatever appears promising on the first result page - and *then* maybe gets sucked into whatever forum/list/stackexchange platform is behind

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
On 10/31/2011 07:26 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Marc-André Laverdière wrote: I think that most people on the mailing list know about stack exchange, and how rockin' it is. I think it would bee a) cool and b) a boon to our mutual users to just migrate our forums to stack exchange. Seems

[tdf-discuss] Ctrl-Shift-N and My templates as default

2011-10-31 Thread sabitov
Hi all! Could anybody help me to solve my trouble... I use LO-3.3.4 since jan 2011 and (it's very! important for me) it opens My templates folder, if I use Ctrl-Shift-N binding or File-New-Templates menu. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3468133/t1.png But in LO-3.4.3 I get

Re: [tdf-discuss] Just a question

2011-10-31 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Jean-Paul, all, On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, Jean-Paul Ghys wrote on 2011-10-30 00:41: But first a statement !Godammit !It is awfully difficult to get in touch with the LibreOffice         Foundation !Remember:Kiss !This

[tdf-discuss] Re: Just a question

2011-10-31 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/29/11 4:41 PM, Jean-Paul Ghys wrote: But first a statement !Godammit !It is awfully difficult to get in touch with the LibreOffice Foundation !Remember:Kiss !This is not a claim. Just wishng to understand. And speaking in a language which is not my mother language.Can

Re: [tdf-discuss] Ctrl-Shift-N and My templates as default

2011-10-31 Thread MiguelAngel
El 31/10/11 16:47, sabitov escribi:Hi all! Could anybody help me to solve my trouble... I use LO-3.3.4 since jan 2011 and (it's very! important for me) it opens My templates folder, if I use Ctrl-Shift-N binding or File-New-Templates

[tdf-discuss] Re: APRESENTAÇÃO

2011-10-31 Thread Pedro
Viva Agostinhos Dúvidas em Português sobre a utilização de programas é nesta outra mailing list http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/User-f2317346.html Cumprimentos, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/APRESENTACAO-tp3468167p3468747.html Sent from the

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
On 10/31/2011 03:49 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, [...] What I took from this thread is, that there are two options: One de.openoffice.org, and the other one the LibreOffice forum. Anyone already got in touch with those folks? IIRC, there had been discussions, with some groups, and

RE: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
One touch up. There is no de.openoffice.org forum. However, there is this nice page of sources provided there: http://de.openoffice.org/foren.html. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Fabian Rodriguez [mailto:magic...@member.fsf.org] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 13:06 To:

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
I am not too inclined towards our own whatever for user support because a) that's not cool to split the community b) we'll get flak on LWN et al and c) we loose gazillion pages of answered problems that may be useful for the next guy. Marc-André LAVERDIÈRE Perseverance must finish its work so

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-31 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-10-31 15:49, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hello, thanks everyone for your feedback and your kind offers to help, that's really much appreciated! As for which type to use, I must say that a normal forum is the only way, IMHO. We've been experimenting with Nabble, and the result has