[tdf-discuss] Triple licensing?

2011-06-13 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi all; I had an idea that you could offer to let people triple-license their changes. LibreOffice can become an upstream of Apache with this change. That way people not interested in setting up build servers, etc. can work here while Apache setup the infrastructure. Given the state of the code

Re: [tdf-discuss] Triple licensing?

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Curtis
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 June 2011 06:55, Keith Curtis keit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all; I had an idea that you could offer to let people triple-license their changes. How does that work? Surely if they licensed their work Apache

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Curtis
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: You describe how all the committers and people on the steering committee know these details. Well, of course. But what about all the people at Apache who are trying to learn about the work you guys have done here? Trying to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Triple licensing?

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Curtis
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: That is great news! Reading over the archives, I was surprised how some people who wished to contribute to both LOo and OOo were turned away (with a we don't want your kind here), and so seeing how LOo would now be open

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Curtis
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: We got our answer (before the vote) because Florian explained it. Our point is that other people visiting the site will not have Florian's attention. This has nothing to do with Apache, except by way of example and that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Curtis
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: than your consequences. Forking makes cooperation more expensive. Your intentions are less important Sounds like we'll have to agree to disagree. From my side I would say it isn't that you guys don't have good

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Curtis
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Allen Pulsifer pulsi...@openoffice.orgwrote: Forking makes cooperation more expensive. Your intentions are less important than your consequences. Hello Keith, As long as you are hung up on forks, you might want to get your facts right. Sun created the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-17 Thread Keith Curtis
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: The overlap between TDF ASF's goals for an office product (modulo enabling 'mixed-source') is a pretty compelling proof of competition. I disagree...

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-17 Thread Keith Curtis
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: And TDF/LO is the real fork in this case. In your opinion it would have been a necessary fork, but it is the fork nonetheless. Any argument otherwise is revisionist history. LO was a fork, but that was the for many months ago.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Font Embedding in ODF (was RE: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review)

2011-06-26 Thread Keith Curtis
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.comwrote: The better solution is to include the fonts required in the odt file just for LO use (like MS, and 2 previously mentioned word processors). That is another solution, but not necessarily a better solution. I think

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Font Embedding in ODF (was RE: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review)

2011-06-26 Thread Keith Curtis
In order to succeed, a mass movement must develop at the earliest moment a compact corporate organization and a capacity to integrate all comers. —Eric Hoffer, American philosopher This discussion is interesting but it reminds me of people re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Or, perhaps a

Re: [tdf-discuss] New LibreOffice Reader Eliminates Need for PDF Reader

2011-07-02 Thread Keith Curtis
The problem with building a reader is that it would be about the same size as LibreOffice. OpenDocument is very different from PDF. For those who can't install LO, they probably can't install the reader either. You have to think about file formats when interacting with people, just like you have

[tdf-discuss] Article about LibreOffice, brands, etc

2013-02-15 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; I wrote an article in support of LibreOffice, submitted it to lxer.com, and it was their top story of the day: http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=3163 Some of what I wrote might be impolitic about a sensitive issue. I'm not trying to troll this old topic, I just write about important things I

Re: [tdf-discuss] macro compatibility between LO and AOO?

2013-03-05 Thread Keith Curtis
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote: On 4/03/2013 8:27, M. Fioretti wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 08:16:25 AM +0100, Fernand Vanrie wrote: 99% percent , changes comes and will come from incompatiliteis in de API. for now this is OK, small changes from version

[tdf-discuss] Experimental UI for LibreOffice proposal

2013-03-08 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; I'm working on a proposal for building an experimental new LibreOffice toolbar / UI in Python: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu I'm going to add some links to places where the C++ code would need to be changed and a few more tweaks, but I'm interested in feedback. Feel free

Re: [tdf-discuss] Experimental UI for LibreOffice proposal

2013-03-08 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; This should probably be on the UX mailing list. Also are you developing this also? Finding developers to implement this could be very very difficult - just giving you a heads up in case you don't want to waste a bunch of time for nothing. Best, Joel I'm not planning on developing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Experimental UI for LibreOffice proposal

2013-03-08 Thread Keith Curtis
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 03/08/2013 03:44 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: Hi; I'm working on a proposal for building an experimental new LibreOffice toolbar / UI in Python: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu I'm

Re: [tdf-discuss] Experimental UI for LibreOffice proposal

2013-03-08 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: To be clear, the underlying image was created by Paulo José. Working on smaller screens is a good question, but you have to get something before you make it work with additional constraints. LibreOffice has two

Re: [tdf-discuss] Scripting for LibreOffice

2013-03-11 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote: Hi Keith, On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 16:16 -0800, Keith Curtis wrote: I see how LO is heading in this direction, but you could be explicit about it, create more workitems, There always plenty of work-items

Re: [tdf-discuss] Scripting for LibreOffice

2013-03-11 Thread Keith Curtis
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Charles Jenkins cejw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with you on the UI design, Keith. The way software looks influences how people perceive its capability, and LO looks like something from the 90's. I like your design because it's attractive, yet leaves the menus in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Experimental UI for LibreOffice proposal

2013-03-12 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: I'm working on a proposal for building an experimental new LibreOffice toolbar / UI in Python: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu Err, I would like to point out the fact that trying to emulate MS in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Scripting for LibreOffice

2013-03-12 Thread Keith Curtis
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: While working on my wiki page about a new Writer toolbar, I realized that independently of my proposal, I believe it makes sense for LibreOffice to prefer Python. I see how LO is heading in this direction, but you could

[tdf-discuss] HiDPI with LibreOffice

2013-10-29 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; I just replaced my ancient Thinkpad with a Hi-DPI Lenova Yoga 2 Pro. QHD+ screens are finally arriving in PC laptops and make text much nicer to look at. The Yoga is the cheapest, but there are a number of models on the market and more on the way. In general, LibreOffice works well but has a

[tdf-discuss] Fwd: AI in Microsoft Office

2018-01-19 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi all, I came across a Microsoft AI video that I thought was interesting and food for thought here. The link shows the demo of AI features in Office: https://youtu.be/H_X1ZuM6ZJU?t=1h12m27s It shows an auto-designer, a better grammar checker, Intranet search and easy copy/paste, nice pen

[tdf-discuss] Re: Fwd: AI in Microsoft Office

2018-02-06 Thread Keith Curtis
I recently discovered that the Turing Institute is supposed to become the UK's national research laboratory for AI. I've also seen they are supporters of FOSS. Perhaps people in that Institute (or others) could be convinced to do some practical research projects in LibreOffice. They have interest

[tdf-discuss] Realtime collaboration without a browser, CMU Link Grammar checker

2018-04-18 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi all, I have two ideas to consider. 1. Have you thought about creating a plugin for realtime collaboration without running in a browser? I'd love to be able to hand out LibreOffice invites to other people to work on shared documents, or even connecting to a Google server, but continuing to do