RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-20 Thread Pieter E. Zanstra
Please make a new topic, don't spoil this thread -Original Message- From: NoOp [mailto:gl...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:42 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried? On 05/19/2011 11:03 AM, Andras Timar wrote

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-19 Thread Andras Timar
2011/5/19 plino pedl...@gmail.com: Then I think it's time to create a proper C/C++ ODF importer for Word. If this worked properly then this would be a further step in promoting ODF as a de facto open format alternative. ODF support is present in MS Office 2007 SP2 and MS Office 2010 (it even

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-19 Thread Jaime R. Garza
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 20:22, plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: ODF support is present in MS Office 2007 SP2 and MS Office 2010 (it even can be selected as default file format) so what would be your target? MS Office 2003 and older? It does not look reasonable to me, because by the time

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-19 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 10:51 -0700, NoOp wrote: Given that Oracle has tossed OOo back over the fence, I wonder if that also includes the Sun ODF Plugin... the one they first offered for free, and then changed to a purchase. If so, then that might be worth salvaging. The free version of the Sun

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com On 5/17/11 4:17 PM, BRM wrote: Personally I hope Oracle doesn't drop the ball on it and that OpenOffice proper can become a true community lead project as I haven't yet seen anything from the leadership of TDF

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread Thorsten Behrens
BRM wrote: In some cases, the community decision was aligned with the members, but they stilled didn't take to the decision through the community but through what they wanted so it the decision seemed more forced on the community than decided by the community even in those cases Hi Ben,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org To: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 5:34:38 AM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried? BRM wrote: In some cases, the community decision

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Ben, This discussion is a bit, as we say in Dutch ouwe koeien uit de sloot halen :-) (hmm, old stuff that maybe you shouldn't care about any longer) I have seen moments too in the first months of TDF that did not feel so good. However ... BRM wrote (18-05-11 11:53): While I was

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Em 18-05-2011 07:05, Cor Nouws escreveu: Hi Ben, (snip) .. in this community there is no single person or party pushing decisions. All that participate have a saying. But of course, most in areas where your participation is relevant. And sure, still some processes are not perfect. But

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Preston
May I just take the time to agree 100% that this old stuff is, or should be, dead and buried so we can move on. Remember, we are not alone in forking from Oracle this way - for instance the Drizzle database (by ex-MSQL developers) is now rated best non-proprietary database option and this month

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com Le 17/05/11 12:49, plino a écrit : What do they mean by handing it back? Are they giving up on the OpenOffice brand? Can someone from TDF shed some light? Nobody seems to know, or if they do, they are

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 5/17/11 4:17 PM, BRM wrote: Personally I hope Oracle doesn't drop the ball on it and that OpenOffice proper can become a true community lead project as I haven't yet seen anything from the leadership of TDF to give me confidence they are not doing the same thing they blamed Oracle for, just

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 05/17/2011 05:17 PM, plino wrote: @Italo, since you are indeed a member of the SC, can you share with the community more information about the original topic, please? Apart from reiterating that we see one community going forward, as we always did (when we originally invited Oracle to