Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-18 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Jeff (Axup), thanks for continuing the discussion and opening up many new sub-threads -- I would like to address every one of those, but clearly can't. But let me continue the conversation anyway. Bear with me through the following points which seem unrelated to the issue initially. 1. The idea

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-15 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
On 12/14/07, Jeff Seager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like diversity in > theory and in practice, and I believe that cultural diversity is an > advantage to all of us. I cannot agree with you more. At the same time, the religious fervor and evangelistic zeal with which ideas are marketed (ev

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-15 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
I just realized that I had sent this message to Jeff alone rather than the group, so here it is again. (As an aside,it looks like the list options have been set so that 'reply' goes to the poster rather than the group. I don't know whether the listmaster intentionally chose this setting -- I can

[IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-14 Thread Jeff Seager
I appreciated Murli's questions, and replied to him yesterday when I intended to respond to the list. I've included a slightly edited version of my reply below. I also appreciate Jeff Axup's response, and his point of view that OLPC may be a step in the right direction. I may agree with

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-14 Thread pauric
Murli: "But that does not always translate into ideas and actions that 'succeed'." I was very fortunate to have the opportunity to talk to the Minister for Culture for Brazil, Gilberto Gil, about the OPLC. He described how a pilot classroom was seeded with the XO and how that injection of techno

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-13 Thread Jeff Axup
Hi Murli, As it happens, I'm writing a book chapter on this topic at the moment, so I took interest when I saw this thread. The main point of the chapter will be to point out that designers (and by extension tech firms) do far too little thinking about the sociological and political impact of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-13 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:15:32, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The tool itself is "great" (arguably), but it doesn't necessarily > fit the entire eco-system. Dave, this is exactly the sort of thing I worry about. be sure to include those you are designing for, and turn the design >

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-13 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Robert, I'm looking forward to your review of the OLPC. From what I have read, it has some really neat interface/interaction innovations. Then the peer networking, low power consumption, and so on. As regards the skepticism. I have spent 60% of my life in India and 40% in the US, and lived in b

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-13 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
> 1. Has anyone here had a chance to play with the OLPC for any extended > period? I haven't yet, but one is on the way to me, and I do plan to study/analyze it as much as possible. 2. What do you feel about well-meaning scientists and technologists in > 'advanced societies' developing artifac

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-13 Thread David Malouf
I like part of the response here which is a mix of Bruce Nussbaum's and Mark Vanderbeeken's: http://www.experientia.com/blog/what-happens-when-the-100-laptop-actually-gets-used/ I think it is a great example of designing a bridge instead of designing 'a way to cross the river or chasm'. The tool

[IxDA Discuss] OLPC: BBC article

2007-12-13 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Here's a BBC article and associated slashdot discussion. http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7140443.stm http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/13/0415245&from=rss There've been a number of articles on the popular as well as tech press, each