Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-31 Thread David Talbot
Thanks for the video and references! The video really shows the value of marking menu. An earlier conparison of pie vs linear menu was made, that you might know about, Kaleem, and I post it as reference purposes. CALLAHAN J., HOPKINS D., WEISER M., SHNEIDERMAN B. (1988). « An empirical comparison

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-30 Thread Kaleem
Dave Talbot discussed Gord Kurtenbach's work at Alias (now Autodesk) in his earlier post -- http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=34967#34978 -- which led to Gord's PhD thesis on The Design and Evaluation of Marking Menus : http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~gordo/papers/thesis.pdf. Bill Buxton was Alias

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-29 Thread Jarod Tang
Hi Krystal, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfFwgPuEdSkfeature=related It seems Jeff Han use (popup) list menu as well as pie menu at the same time, and his method triggering the pie menu looks quite interesting. Thanks, -- Jarod -- http://designforuse.blogspot.com/

[IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-28 Thread Mike Cuesta
Hello everyone, I'm new to IxDA, glad to be part of this. I wanted to share this interesting article: http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/pie-in-the-sky/ What are your thoughts? - Mike avisena.com mikecuesta.com -- It's easier to invent the future than to predict it.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-28 Thread Tillier, Ivor - Oxford
Hi Mike, Lateral movement is easier, shorter is quicker. The pie chart has a larger area in terms of direction of travel i.e. there is more tolerance. The pie is smaller but its nearer. See Fitt's Law for a mathematical view. Ivor Tillier Senior Web Producer -Original Message-

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-28 Thread David Talbot
I'm glad seeing interests for pie menus. They have some limitations (ie.: screen space and number of elements) but present major advantages offer linear menus. One I like is the possibility to use marks for selection instead of pointing. Gordon Kurtembach made a Ph.D. thesis on the subject,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-28 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
For mac, the equivalent would be Trampoline: http://www.old-jewel.com/trampoline/ Sweet — I already love it! Thanks for the tip. I've used QuickSilver for at least a year now, but Trampoline is a nice alternative for those core apps I open all the time. (Doesn't work so well for folders,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-28 Thread Troy Gardner
I love radial / orbital menus which are related to pie. Especially when dealing with deeply nested hierarchies as on windows/web, it's SOOO easy to accidently mouse off a deeply nested menu, and then have to retraverse it, to miss it again! Even back in 2005 I had one on my site (still up). It's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus

2008-10-28 Thread Jarod Tang
http://www.troyworks.com/menu.html Sorry, it's a bit hard for me to use it after some trying. there's maybe some reasons 1. adapt to the normal menu design patterns 2. it's easier to read the in line mode instead of circle mode, which may have big influnce on daily point/action work But if