Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-17 Thread AJKock
Just out of curiosity: how can you comply to Section 508 if you information provided with mouse-over functions? Do we draw a line between cosmetic feedback (colour change) or if the information provided is additional or vital? Or is a mouse-over a mouse-over and if used, not compliant to Section 5

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-16 Thread William Brall
I actually think we can reach a semi-conclusion here: -Hover is best used for non-essential but useful 'extra' info. (tooltips, next-page previews, link highlights) -Hover can be used for functionality if it is an extension with a good default, or if it has a logical backup. (a second-row drop out

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread pietro . desiato
Ciao guys, I think that the hover state should ne tested every time you can. It's such a complex interaction and, even though it seems ho ne mode standard recently, the context IW always extremely influent ok it. Do you have any info about your users? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread J . Wilton Williams
Danny, Visit http://www.netflix.com/ You may actually need to be logged in with a user account to see the flyouts to which Jackson refers. However, at that point, you should receive a number of suggested offerings (for instance). These are thumbnails of the movie box/CD cover, etc...commonly ass

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Casey Edgeton
http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Danny Hope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/13 Jackson Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > …Netflix's > > movie info boxes. > > Can you give me a URL please? > > -- > Regards, > Danny Hope > http://linkedin.com/in/dannyhope > 07

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Joel Tachau
page: http://skiing.about.com/od/skigear/u/skiequipment.htm Joel Tachau Director of User Experience MFG.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny Hope Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:37 AM To: Jack Moffett Cc: IxDA Discuss Subject: Re: [IxDA Dis

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread alan james salmoni
Hi Jacqueline, Did you mean something like this page: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=35525 ___

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Adrian Howard
On 13 Nov 2008, at 09:09, Jackson Fox wrote: [snip] I think there are some cases where we *can* treat hovering as a declaration. In particular, I'm thinking of uses such as Netflix's movie info boxes. When a user places a mouse over an active object, and then pauses without a click, I think it's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Jack Moffett
On Nov 13, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Danny Hope wrote: I suppose tool tips are an example, can you reference other examples please? I can't spout off URLs and I don't have the time to look any up, but I've seen sites that provide a preview of the page that an external link goes to in a roll-ove

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Danny Hope
2008/11/13 Jackson Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > …Netflix's > movie info boxes. Can you give me a URL please? -- Regards, Danny Hope http://linkedin.com/in/dannyhope 07595 226 792 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Jackson Fox
Danny, > Clicking is a declaration, hovering is not. I think there are some cases where we *can* treat hovering as a declaration. In particular, I'm thinking of uses such as Netflix's movie info boxes. When a user places a mouse over an active object, and then pauses without a click, I think it'

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
On Nov 13, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Jack Moffett wrote: You could certainly point out situations where it is inappropriate, but I don't see how you can argue that best practice is to not use this technique. Exactly. We use the hover technique to reveal additional options like Edit and Delete in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
We do a very similar thing, except instead of hiding the buttons completely we dim them. We also use hover to show contextual content for an item in a popup box, and it works very well. You can see these techniques in action at http://opl.bibliocommons.com/collection/show/4922901_emenel/library

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Danny Hope
Hey Jack, 2008/11/13 Jack Moffett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Danny Hope wrote: >> Arguably, best practice says: don't initiate layers on rollover, but >> rather to require a click. > > Danny, I can't agree with you here. Displaying new information on rollover > has been a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Jack Moffett
On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Danny Hope wrote: Arguably, best practice says: don't initiate layers on rollover, but rather to require a click. Danny, I can't agree with you here. Displaying new information on rollover has been a widely used and accepted practice for over 16 years. You co

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-13 Thread Danny Hope
Hi Hacqueline, 2008/11/12 Jacqueline Stetson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > …your thoughts on: > > 1. Are there any best practices around where the layer should open and how > it is tied to the object? (Like should the header of the layer be beneath or > to the right of the link? Should the stem be in the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best Practices for Mouseover Layers

2008-11-12 Thread Jack Moffett
On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Jacqueline Stetson wrote: 1. Are there any best practices around where the layer should open and how it is tied to the object? (Like should the header of the layer be beneath or to the right of the link? Should the stem be in the side middle? top left? ...)