Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Hi Frank, I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and coordinate system dictionaries.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FAQ update needed?

2008-05-05 Thread Markus Neteler
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Helena Mitasova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the Projects joining the foundation part of FAQ but it looks like FAQ answers need an update? Also, have all projects listed as OSGeo projects on the OSGeo web site passed incubation ? No. I have added (as

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Markus Neteler
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Hi Frank, I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Thanks Markus, Bruce Markus Neteler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/05/08 07:33 PM Please respond to OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org To OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org cc OSGeo-incubator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread ChrisWebster
Fascinating discussion - and quite encouraging to someone like me who is just moving into GIS and hoping to make good use of OS GIS tools in future. As a newbie to all of this technology, I'd go along with the general feeling that ESRI ArcMap is easier to get started with as an end user, and

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Comparison between Proprietary and OS

2008-05-05 Thread Gavin Fleming
So, who's going to condense this and related threads into a presentation at FOSS4G2008? It's the sort of input a lot of people are interested in. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micha Silver Sent: 26 April 2008 04:32 PM To:

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Frans Thamura
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone have the list of stack diagram of OSGeo product that in Java? i still confuse and dont get the topic here ;) even I am java programmer, i am new in OSGeo:) Frans -- -- Frans Thamura Director Meruvian

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Landon Blake
Frans, Perhaps I can help you understand. As far as I know the only two official OSGeo projects for the Java programming language are gvSIG and GeoTools. OpenJUMP isn't an official OSGeo project, but I hope that it is one day. :] Even though it isn't yet a project I try to stay active in

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Frank Warmerdam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Hi Frank, I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Landon Blake wrote: The lack of good user documentation is a weakness of many open source projects. The problem is that most of us like to code, but few of us like to write! Speak for yourself! ;-) Am I the exception to the rule? *LOL* Please don't regard the following as shameless promo. I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread Jacolin Yves
Hi, Don't forget that some people are not developers but are ready to write documentation (in my native langage for me ;) ). Open Source is not only for developers, but for everyone who want to share his works (software, documentation, ideas, etc.). [my life]That's why I am working on

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread Landon Blake
I shouldn't have painted with such a broad brush. We actually have a great bunch of translators for OpenJUMP, and one user that does nothing but work on documentation. (English is actually a second language for this user.) I meant to speak in a more general sense. I agree with the earlier

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
Landon Blake wrote: The lack of good user documentation is a weakness of many open source projects. The problem is that most of us like to code, but few of us like to write! It is something that needs to be addressed, although I am unsure of the solution. Maybe we need to invent an IDE for user

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread Landon Blake
Bruno wrote: More specifically: I've been contacted by Dirk Frigne (geGIS / MAJAS) to solve the plot/print problem in the GIS world. That is very exciting! Please keep me posted. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruno Lowagie

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread Markus Neteler
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:13 PM, ChrisWebster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The biggest problem with OS - nobody seems to have mentioned it yet - is the lack of user-friendly or coherent documentation, even for mature tools like GRASS (yes, I know there's a GRASS book, but getting hold of it

[OSGeo-Discuss] [cfp] 2nd International Workshop on Mobile Geospatial Augmented Reality

2008-05-05 Thread Thierry Badard
Hello, This workshop announcement could be of interest for some folks on the list ... As an open source advocate, I will be very happy to see submissions based on open source technologies. Cheers, Th. - 2nd International Workshop on Mobile Geospatial Augmented Reality

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Your open source career

2008-05-05 Thread ChrisWebster
Thanks, Markus. By the way, for anybody else looking of a fairly painless intro to FOSS GIS, I can heartily recommend Scott Davis's book GIS for web developers. It's aimed mainly at web mapping rather than heavy duty GIS, but it will get you started with PostGIS, GeoServer, GDAL, uDig, QGIS and

[OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library

2008-05-05 Thread Landon Blake
A fellow OSGeo member suggested that I move a topic from a private e-mail discussion to this mailing list. I have been talking with a couple of the guys from GeoTools, a couple of the guys from deegree, and a couple of guys from OpenJUMP about a shared Java CRS library. There are a lot of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library

2008-05-05 Thread Justin Deoliveira
I know some of you want to know why we aren’t just going to use the GeoAPI interfaces. I don’t know enough about the GeoAPI code to say that it won’t be used. I think that will need to be part of our research process. It would make sense to use GeoAPI as a home for common interfaces if

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library

2008-05-05 Thread Landon Blake
Thanks for the input Justin. I agree simplicity (and the broad adoption that results from simplicity) is a primary goal. We shouldn't let GeoAPI stand in the way of that. Does anyone know how much of the existing GeoTools code is actually based on the CRS interfaces in GeoAPI? Is anyone besides

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Jody Garnett
Landon Blake wrote: Frank, I will join the MetaCRS mailing list as you suggest. You wrote: If the Java folks don't feel that a shared CRS component belong properly in GeoTools... I don't think most of us will have a problem with the library being hosted by GeoTools. It seems like the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again

2008-05-05 Thread Jody Garnett
Frans Thamura wrote: anyone have the list of stack diagram of OSGeo product that in Java? i still confuse and dont get the topic here ;) even I am java programmer, i am new in OSGeo:) I have a stack diagram for the GeoTools project here; each box represents a GeoTools module (a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library

2008-05-05 Thread Jody Garnett
Landon Blake wrote: I know some of you want to know why we aren’t just going to use the GeoAPI interfaces. I don’t know enough about the GeoAPI code to say that it won’t be used. I think that will need to be part of our research process. It would make sense to use GeoAPI as a home for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library

2008-05-05 Thread Jody Garnett
Landon Blake wrote: I agree simplicity (and the broad adoption that results from simplicity) is a primary goal. We shouldn't let GeoAPI stand in the way of that. Even just taking the abstractions as defined by GeoAPI and turning them into classes would remove one level of complexity. I

[OSGeo-Discuss] Where 2.0 - OsGeo Flyers

2008-05-05 Thread Alex Mandel
Anyone going to the Where 2.0 conference this coming week want some of my leftover OsGeo project flyers from tabling at CGS. I realized I'll be in the Bay Area over the weekend and can drop them off. I guess no one's tabling otherwise they would have asked for the skirt and banner. Speaking