[OSGeo-Discuss] a home for OSGeo hardcopy materials?
I'm sorting through the Workshop/Lab evaluation forms from FOSS4G2007, which we are going to have scanned into PDF documents. Although these aren't necessarily a good example, it made me wonder if OSGeo has a plan or mechanism in place to archive hardcopy documents? If not, is there a need for one? -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] BC Local Chapter
It looks like FOSS4G has resulted in an increase in local interest, one of the very real benefits to hosting this great conference. As a result, a group of folks here in BC are looking at putting together a local chapter. If you're in British Columbia and interested in getting involved (heck, if you're just visiting, I'm sure we won't say no) have a look at our wiki page, and add your name to the list: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/British_Columbia_Chapter We hope to have a mailing list set up soon; I'll add the details to the wiki once they're available. Jason ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter
In terms of initial web presence Tyler suggested setting up a California page on the OSGeo wiki, to be linked from the local chapters page at http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Local_Chapters. Also OSGeo hosts many of the local chapter mailing lists -- see http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo. One good project might be to provide an OSGeo presence at the 2008 CalGIS conference (http://www.calgis.org/), which will be in April in Modesto. I've never been to one of their conferences but it has grown to be a big deal. (Unfortunately, I won't be able to make the 2008 meeting, already having made out-of-state travel plans for that date). Evidently at last year's meeting there was a good deal of interest in open source geospatial (e.g. http://base.bargc.org/?q=node/85): for one thing Paul Ramsey and the Refractions folks had an exhibit there -- see Paul's blog post at http://geotips.blogspot.com/2007/04/calgis-notes-day-1.html. If OSGeo were there in 2008 it might be very timely. -- Allan On Thursday 11 October 2007 15:08, Landon Blake wrote: > Thanks for the feedback Allan. Physical meetings can be tough with my > schedule, but David isn't too far from Stockton. :] > > If we decide to get something going, I could put up a simple website and > mailing list. Still, I don't know if two people is enough to get things > moving. > > While we are talking about goals, are there any pressing regional or > local GIS and/or open source needs that you can think of? > > Landon > > -Original Message- > From: Allan Hollander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:21 PM > To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org > Cc: Landon Blake > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter > > At FOSS4G I was chatting a bit with Tyler Mitchell about the possibility > of > starting a California chapter, so that makes at least two of us. I think > > there are several other folks here at UC Davis who would be interested > as > well. I am quite open to what the goals of such a group would be, though > I > would like to see it foster regional get-togethers. > > Any other Californians here on this list? > > -- Allan Hollander > Davis, California > > On Thursday 11 October 2007 13:00, Landon Blake wrote: > > Has there ever been any discussion of forming a California chapter of > > the OSGeo? I would think with all the geo guys in the Bay Area that > > this > > > would have been done already. > > > > > > > > I would be interested in helping out with this, although I don't know > > if > > > I want to "run and administer" things on my own. Are there any other > > interested OSGeo members in California? > > > > > > > > I was thinking we could form a chapter with one or two clear and > > simple > > > goals. This would help our group to be focused and have something to > > actually "work together" on. I'm pretty flexible to what the goals > > might > > > be, although I have a particular interest in a couple of areas. :] > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > Landon Blake (A.K.A. - The Sunburned Surveyor) > > > > > > > > > > > > Warning: > > Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against > > defects > > > including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not > > the > > > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. > > If > > > you have received this information in error, please notify the sender > > immediately. > > Warning: > Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects > including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this information in error, please notify the sender > immediately. ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter
Thanks for the feedback Allan. Physical meetings can be tough with my schedule, but David isn't too far from Stockton. :] If we decide to get something going, I could put up a simple website and mailing list. Still, I don't know if two people is enough to get things moving. While we are talking about goals, are there any pressing regional or local GIS and/or open source needs that you can think of? Landon -Original Message- From: Allan Hollander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:21 PM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Landon Blake Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter At FOSS4G I was chatting a bit with Tyler Mitchell about the possibility of starting a California chapter, so that makes at least two of us. I think there are several other folks here at UC Davis who would be interested as well. I am quite open to what the goals of such a group would be, though I would like to see it foster regional get-togethers. Any other Californians here on this list? -- Allan Hollander Davis, California On Thursday 11 October 2007 13:00, Landon Blake wrote: > Has there ever been any discussion of forming a California chapter of > the OSGeo? I would think with all the geo guys in the Bay Area that this > would have been done already. > > > > I would be interested in helping out with this, although I don't know if > I want to "run and administer" things on my own. Are there any other > interested OSGeo members in California? > > > > I was thinking we could form a chapter with one or two clear and simple > goals. This would help our group to be focused and have something to > actually "work together" on. I'm pretty flexible to what the goals might > be, although I have a particular interest in a couple of areas. :] > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Landon Blake (A.K.A. - The Sunburned Surveyor) > > > > > > Warning: > Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects > including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this information in error, please notify the sender > immediately. Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter
At FOSS4G I was chatting a bit with Tyler Mitchell about the possibility of starting a California chapter, so that makes at least two of us. I think there are several other folks here at UC Davis who would be interested as well. I am quite open to what the goals of such a group would be, though I would like to see it foster regional get-togethers. Any other Californians here on this list? -- Allan Hollander Davis, California On Thursday 11 October 2007 13:00, Landon Blake wrote: > Has there ever been any discussion of forming a California chapter of > the OSGeo? I would think with all the geo guys in the Bay Area that this > would have been done already. > > > > I would be interested in helping out with this, although I don't know if > I want to "run and administer" things on my own. Are there any other > interested OSGeo members in California? > > > > I was thinking we could form a chapter with one or two clear and simple > goals. This would help our group to be focused and have something to > actually "work together" on. I'm pretty flexible to what the goals might > be, although I have a particular interest in a couple of areas. :] > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Landon Blake (A.K.A. - The Sunburned Surveyor) > > > > > > Warning: > Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects > including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this information in error, please notify the sender > immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter
Has there ever been any discussion of forming a California chapter of the OSGeo? I would think with all the geo guys in the Bay Area that this would have been done already. I would be interested in helping out with this, although I don't know if I want to "run and administer" things on my own. Are there any other interested OSGeo members in California? I was thinking we could form a chapter with one or two clear and simple goals. This would help our group to be focused and have something to actually "work together" on. I'm pretty flexible to what the goals might be, although I have a particular interest in a couple of areas. :] Any thoughts? Landon Blake (A.K.A. - The Sunburned Surveyor) Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed
> > The future. > == > Justin Deoliveira, of the Open Planning Project, was in charge > of the Integration Showcase, and he loaded the Canadian geodata > onto the Refractions server. During FOSS4G2007 I had a > discussion with Justin and Chris Holmes, about the Integration > Showcase. What came out of that was an idea of 'how to do it > better in the future'. I then had subsequent discussions with > some other people at the conference about this idea. Here is my > interpretation of the general outline of what was discussed. > Part of the problem was that I was not aggressive enough about making sure people had demos in place. Everyone was so busy (understandably) as the conference got near that it just fell off. And I am no exception :). Also as Jody stated the other big issue was hardware availability. Some interested parties just could not participate because they did not have a machine to work with on site. I think to pull this off next time around one will need to put something a bit more formal in place. Perhaps having people "sign up" for a machine to be used for the integration showcase well before hand (like around the same time they submit workshops). An additional machine is then rented for them (or perhaps one of the workshop machines is reused). Having some sort of "contract" like this in place would be a bit more binding and would force people to ensure things are set up before hand. Especially since a machine has been set aside for them. Organizers could then treat showcase setup like workshop setup. My 2c. -Justin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Govt involvement in FOSS4G
On 8-Oct-07, at 6:59 PM, Tim Bowden wrote: In planning our bid for the '09 conf, the Aust-NZ chapter (in formation) is looking at how we can maximise the value of the conf to Govt attendees. In talking to govt people here in Aust, and following comments on this list in the past, it seems govt people have a harder time than necessary getting to the conf. I'd like suggestions as to how we can maximise the value proposition for govt attendance at future conf's. If you have good contacts within the gov't, one way to help add value is to provide some sort of venue for them to hold a meeting. If you have a conference centre available and can give them a room - it might be an attractive opportunity for a group (of spatial data managers, national spatial direction working groups, etc.) to meet face-to-face. Thereby killing two birds with one stone: come and learn, and come to meet with peers/colleagues. From my past experience there was always a need for dispersed employees to meet together, but travelling *only* for the sake of meeting wasn't always seen as valuable. But toss in a great conference, some excellent workshops and help provide a venue for other gov't meetings to happen and the value becomes obvious. If you really want to add more value, you could also have one session at the event that they help organise - they could show off their FOSS apps, or could explain particular challenges they have in general, they could even have an interactive session to elicit input/feedback from solution providers/FOSS user who may be there. You get the idea... Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [Nosi-discussion] New FOSS Primer released
FYI... Begin forwarded message: ... Today, we're releasing the new version of the tried and true NOSI primer. "Choosing and Using Free and Open Source Software: A Primer for Nonprofits" is a no-nonsense, easy to read report that helps nonprofits understand what free and open source software (FOSS) is, what options are available for their organizations, and how they can access support for using FOSS. The primer includes all of the basics, and also discusses how to look at TCO and strategic value in making decisions about FOSS. There are many case studies describing the use of various FOSS applications in the sector. Fabulously, it also includes a live feed via API from Social Source Commons of a particular set of 5 FOSS toolboxes: software for the server, for the web, and for the three flavors of desktops, Windows, Mac and Linux. Read it on the web, or download a PDF: http://nosi.net/projects/primer We're looking forward to your feedback and contributions! Feel free to comment - you don't need to create an account on the NOSI site to comment on the primer. Also, I'll be starting a discussion about NOSI's future in just a bit, on this very list, so stay tuned. Peace, Michelle -- Michelle Murrain Nonprofit Open Source Initiative ___ NonProfit Open Source Initiative Discussion List http://www.nosi.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.nosi.net/mailman/listinfo/nosi-discussion ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed
I love the idea of maintaining a suite of services as an integration showcase on an ongoing basis rather than as just a conference work item. This connects to the concept of a "demonstration stack" that we never really followed up on either. Basically to have a bunch of packages installed on a few centrally managed servers that demonstrate our packages, and also demonstrates how they integrate. If we set it up properly it should be practical to delivery a copy of the demonstration stack to run on servers at the conference to avoid problems with saturated links to the external network. One obvious place to set up some of this demonstration stack / integration showcase would be one or a couple of telascience blades. I don't think I'm presenting the killer application for the test bed but I would try to suggest our solutions for LiveCD [1]. Our latest Desktop LiveCD contains: GRASS 6.2.2 QGIS 0.8.1 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 PostGIS 1.3.1 GDAL 1.4.2 Proj 4.5.0 R 2.4.1 PgAdmin 1.6.3 For GRASS and QGIS we had a direct contact from the community (IRC) to optimize the installation. Our Customizations have been used for FOSS4G workshops in Lausanne and Victoria: - GRASS3D 2006 - ka-Map 2006 - QGIS 2007 - ka-Map 2007 Customization offers the possibility to add desired data packages, tutorials and customize applications settings as you prefer. Ex: QGIS connectors are pre-configured to access your local PostGIS with data included, a double click on a SHP from a Pen Drive is automatically opened in QGIS, Firefox can show your home page as default one... It is possible to do localization, we'll try to produce a Japanese version of the Desktop CD for November (but we don't know how to check text is good!?!?). we try to publish 2 main versions per year and we ask for a donation in case of customization. download rate is increasing continuously, donation are mainly for maintenance and bandwidth. We hope to offer soon a Server version of the LiveCD to show all Web Apps and interoperability standards at work. Support of any kind is welcome. We still think that LiveCD are useful for Educational purposes, that's why we go on with this project. ciao Lorenzo Becchi and Luca Casagrande (ominoverde and doktoreas) [1] http://livecd.ominiverdi.org [] http://livecd.ominiverdi.org/index.php?page=LiveCD&toc=livecd ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed
Dave Patton wrote: All OSGeo projects must contribute to the showcase, and keep maintaining their portion of the showcase. Dave, We try to avoid using the word "must" too often for projects! The showcase would initially be built using some known set of data. Preparation before FOSS4G might include adapting the showcase to use a set of 'local data'. OSGeo local chapters might also produce sets of 'local data' for use with the showcase. The building of 'the showcase' should be done by OSGeo, not as part of the preparation for a particular conference. There may be multiple 'versions' of the showcase over time, but there should be a stable version well in advance of FOSS4G. I love the idea of maintaining a suite of services as an integration showcase on an ongoing basis rather than as just a conference work item. This connects to the concept of a "demonstration stack" that we never really followed up on either. Basically to have a bunch of packages installed on a few centrally managed servers that demonstrate our packages, and also demonstrates how they integrate. If we set it up properly it should be practical to delivery a copy of the demonstration stack to run on servers at the conference to avoid problems with saturated links to the external network. One obvious place to set up some of this demonstration stack / integration showcase would be one or a couple of telascience blades. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| President OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed
Tim Bowden wrote: I believe the integration test bed didn't go quite as well as planned. Any thoughts as to why, and what could be done next time to improve the experience? First, a bit of background. -- http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase The original idea of the FOSS4G2007 Integration Showcase was that Sponsors and Exhibitors would cooperate to build a set of data and services, running on various platforms, that would show the integration at work. Each Sponsor/Exhibitor would have 'the Showcase Diagram' in their booth, but with highlights showing where their products/services/data fit into the overall Showcase. Refractions bootstrapped this process by providing a server, and, after some data was loaded and a PostGIS database setup, making it available on the Internet. The original plan was to use data from a variety of sources, but due to some issues with licensing, it was decided to go with the OSGeo Public Geospatial Data Committee's idea and use only publicly available geodata. Data from some Canadian sources was loaded onto the Refractions server. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata There was a plan at one point for the Integration Showcase data/services to be made available for use by Workshop/Lab Instructors for use in their classes, but that was dropped due to performance concerns. As Tim noted, the Integration Showcase didn't move much beyond the initial server/data. -- The future. == Justin Deoliveira, of the Open Planning Project, was in charge of the Integration Showcase, and he loaded the Canadian geodata onto the Refractions server. During FOSS4G2007 I had a discussion with Justin and Chris Holmes, about the Integration Showcase. What came out of that was an idea of 'how to do it better in the future'. I then had subsequent discussions with some other people at the conference about this idea. Here is my interpretation of the general outline of what was discussed. The showcase consists of data and the products needed to process that data and make it available in a variety of ways. All OSGeo projects must contribute to the showcase, and keep maintaining their portion of the showcase. The showcase would initially be built using some known set of data. Preparation before FOSS4G might include adapting the showcase to use a set of 'local data'. OSGeo local chapters might also produce sets of 'local data' for use with the showcase. The building of 'the showcase' should be done by OSGeo, not as part of the preparation for a particular conference. There may be multiple 'versions' of the showcase over time, but there should be a stable version well in advance of FOSS4G. Each FOSS4G conference should have a 'track' that consists of starting with "the data" and working through the processing of that data and installation & configuration of all the showcase software. Because the showcase was already built before the conference, this 'track' can be setup as a set of distinct 'modules'. That provides the flexibility for different students to attend different parts of the 'track', as well as being able to start each module with a known working setup. Workshop/Lab Instructors, Presenters, Sponsors, and Exhibitors would be encouraged to make use of the showcase's capabilities. The showcase should be made available in various 'formats'. That might include having a version always running on the telascience servers, and having a LiveCD/DVD version available for download. A showcase such as this, along with some 'marketing materials', could be used by OSGeo evangelists in their activities. == -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
