Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo4w setup.exe source code?

[Frank Warmerdam]

nicholas.g.lawre...@mainroads.qld.gov.au wrote:

Hello list.
Thanks everyone for the great work done with OSGeo4W.
I have a strange (maybe) question. I suppose that osgeo4w setup.exe is
a fork of the cygwin's setup. Is it possible to view/download its
source code?



Thanks, Giovanni


I have a different question.

Is setup.exe the best way to install software on microsoft windows?

Has Windows Installer, that is an .msi file been considered?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_installer

I know that my IT section has a strong preference for software
to be installed via .msi.


Nick,

Originally we were hopeful about being able to produce MSI files as these
are considered to be easier for some IT departments to deploy.  But in
the end it did not appear that MSI files provide support for many of the
things we wanted to address.  Notably - fine grained packages, dependencies,
upgrade versioning, and only downloading the parts that are needed from the
net.

I would like to think that the OSGeo4W .tar.bz2 package files could still
be repackaged as MSI files for specific situations.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo4w setup.exe source code?

[Alex Mandel]

Building an msi just adds complication. I also have not seen any open
source tools to do it either. In reality an msi is just a microsoft
compressed database format they invented. Because typical installers
write to registry using an msi prevents you from running more than one
at the same time. In the case of the QGIS installer and other products
on the osgeo4w, the exe doesn't actually write to the registry. It's
more like a self extracted zip file, that also creates shortcuts.

The normal qgis installer was also exe based as it is built using the
extremely common open source installer tool from Nullsoft (the makers of
winamp)

In terms of security, there's no reason to think an msi is any more
secure than an exe and running msi require that the end user always have
 the correct windows installer library installed. Since Microsoft no
longer supports some older versions of windows, if a Visual Studio tool
was used to build the installer there's a chance older(Win2k,WinXP)
users would be out of luck.

Alex

nicholas.g.lawre...@mainroads.qld.gov.au wrote:
>> Hello list.
>> Thanks everyone for the great work done with OSGeo4W.
>> I have a strange (maybe) question. I suppose that osgeo4w setup.exe is
>> a fork of the cygwin's setup. Is it possible to view/download its
>> source code?
> 
>> Thanks, Giovanni
> 
> I have a different question.
> 
> Is setup.exe the best way to install software on microsoft windows?
> 
> Has Windows Installer, that is an .msi file been considered?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_installer
> 
> I know that my IT section has a strong preference for software
> to be installed via .msi.
> 
> Regards,
> nick
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo4w setup.exe source code?

[nicholas . g . lawrence]

> Hello list.
> Thanks everyone for the great work done with OSGeo4W.
> I have a strange (maybe) question. I suppose that osgeo4w setup.exe is
> a fork of the cygwin's setup. Is it possible to view/download its
> source code?

> Thanks, Giovanni

I have a different question.

Is setup.exe the best way to install software on microsoft windows?

Has Windows Installer, that is an .msi file been considered?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_installer

I know that my IT section has a strong preference for software
to be installed via .msi.

Regards,
nick


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[OSGeo-Discuss] FW: [OGC Press Release] The OGC forms a Spatial Law and Policy Committee [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Bruce Bannerman]

Apologies for cross posting.

Bruce Bannerman

 

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> Subject: [OGC Press Release] The OGC forms a Spatial Law and 
> Policy Committee
> 
> PRESS ANNOUNCEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For information 
> about this announcement, contact:
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> Sam Bacharach
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> --
> -
> 
> 
> 
> February 25, 2009, Wayland, Massachusetts. The Board of 
> Directors of the Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC(r)) has 
> chartered a committee of the Board to specifically address 
> the "spatial law and policy issues"
> which will influence development requirements of the 
> Consortium's technology process. The Spatial Law and Policy 
> Committee (SLPC) will be chaired by OGC director and 
> Executive Committee member, Kevin Pomfret, and will be 
> organized under board leadership as an educational forum to 
> include both select member and community participation.
> 
> In the past, legal issues associated with spatial data and 
> technology were primarily a concern for lawyers that worked 
> with or for the government. Now, both public sector and 
> private sector users and providers of geospatial data and 
> technologies face a wide range of legal issues associated 
> with growth in consumer and business applications for spatial 
> technology. Such applications include Earth browsers, 
> satellite navigation devices in cars and PDA's, 
> location-based services associated with cell phones, business 
> intelligence, social networking and satellite tracking of 
> vehicles and equipment. All of these applications raise 
> issues that involve intellectual property rights, liability, 
> privacy, and national security. In many cases, the existing 
> legal and policy framework is inadequate to provide 
> governments, businesses and consumers clear guidance on these issues.
> 
> David Schell, OGC Chairman, said, "The OGC plays an expanding 
> role in addressing society's increasing dependence on 
> geospatial information services. The advent of information 
> interoperability in this technology domain raises the profile 
> of geospatial information for policy makers, managers and 
> scientists around the world. The Board's creation at this 
> time of a Spatial Law and Policy Committee reflects the 
> increasing need of leaders to understand the challenges they 
> face in this area, and the Board's commitment to meeting 
> their related information requirements."
> 
> Kevin Pomfret added, "I am looking forward to working with 
> the OGC and its members on these important issues. Due in 
> large part to their collective vision and hard work, spatial 
> technology and applications using spatial data are 
> increasingly being utilized in a wide range of important 
> activities. In order for this growth to continue, a solid 
> legal and policy framework must exist. The OGC's Spatial Law 
> and Policy Committee can play a critical role in the 
> development of such a framework."
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> The SLPC, in particular, will provide an open forum for OGC members'
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> policy issues associated with spatial data and technology. 
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> The OGC(r) is an international consortium of more than 370 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: [Majas-dev] [Majas-users] Flex in geomajas

[G. Allegri]

> OpenScales is a very new project aiming at building with Flex something
> similar to OpenLayers.

Hi Benjamin. I didn't know about this project. Is there any demo,
screenshot, or similar?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: [Majas-dev] [Majas-users] Flex in geomajas

[Benjamin Chartier]

You may get in touch with the OpenScales project team in order to get
additional feedback:
http://openscales.org/
OpenScales is a very new project aiming at building with Flex something
similar to OpenLayers.

Regards,

Benjamin Chartier


Dirk Frigne a écrit :

  Sorry for the cross posting, but I found an interesting mail about
performance and webmapping in the majas developers list.

Today, Geomajas is written in Java for the server part, and uses _javascript_
in the frontend.
Although the performance is good enough to support a proper amount of
editable objects, we always are looking to mechanisms to improve the speed
and usability of the front end.

Pieter has done some tests with the Flex technology and they are very
promising(details in his mail attached).
Should it be a problem for distribution that the technology is shipped in
the form of an installable plug-in instead of native browser technology such
as VML or SVG, or isn't that an issue?

And who has experience with this technology?

I would appreciate your feedback ...


Sincerely,
Dirk Frigne

http://www.geomajas.org 




  
  
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  [mailto:majas-dev-boun...@geomajas.org]
  
  
Namens Aurélien Pelletier
Verzonden: maandag 23 februari 2009 11:04
Aan: pieter.degr...@geosparc.com
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Onderwerp: Re: [Majas-dev] [Majas-users] Flex in geomajas

I work with client in the french public sector, additional plugin to the
navigator like flash is usualy an issue.

About mapping and flex you might want to check out
http://openscales.org

Regards,

Aurélien

Pieter De Graef wrote:


  Hi,

i've been running tests on using Flex as a mapping technology for
geomajas. The first results seem very promising: it is very fast and
relatively easy to program for. Besides, Flex (or flash) has a market
penetration of over 90% (flash 9 that is).
The downside is that the bridge between _javascript_ and Flex'
ActionScript is slow. So we should avoid sending large datastreams
(large amount of features) over it.

Anyway, the main question it wanted to ask on this list, is this:
how commited is everyone to browser built-in technologies (such as VML
in Internet explorer or SVG in FireFox)?

We could for example simply throw out both VML and SVG, and replace them
both with flex, but i am afraid that many companies' IT sections will
object to geomajas requiring a plugin to work...

Any thoughts?

Regards,

Pieter De Graef

GeoSparc nv.
http://www.geosparc.com/

Sponsor of: http://www.geomajas.org/


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo4w setup.exe source code?

[G. Allegri]

Thanks Frank!

2009/2/25 Frank Warmerdam :
> G. Allegri wrote:
>>
>> Hello list.
>> Thanks everyone for the great work done with OSGeo4W.
>> I have a strange (maybe) question. I suppose that osgeo4w setup.exe is
>> a fork of the cygwin's setup. Is it possible to view/download its
>> source code?
>
> Giovanni,
>
> Yes, it is available in svn at:
>
>  http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/trunk/setup/
>
> Some more information it is available at:
>
>  http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/SetupDevelopment
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo4w setup.exe source code?

[Frank Warmerdam]

G. Allegri wrote:

Hello list.
Thanks everyone for the great work done with OSGeo4W.
I have a strange (maybe) question. I suppose that osgeo4w setup.exe is
a fork of the cygwin's setup. Is it possible to view/download its
source code?


Giovanni,

Yes, it is available in svn at:

  http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/trunk/setup/

Some more information it is available at:

  http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/SetupDevelopment

Best regards,
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[OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo4w setup.exe source code?

[G. Allegri]

Hello list.
Thanks everyone for the great work done with OSGeo4W.
I have a strange (maybe) question. I suppose that osgeo4w setup.exe is
a fork of the cygwin's setup. Is it possible to view/download its
source code?

Thanks, Giovanni
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[OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter Held First Annual Meeting

[Landon Blake]

On Saturday, February 21, 2009 the California Chapter held its first
annual meeting in Davis, California. We had 10 people in attendance. (I
want to thank Alex Mandel and the other people at UC Davis for setting
up the meeting and hosting it.)

 

I wanted to share two (2) things that developed during the meeting with
everyone on the discuss list, since the ideas might be used by other
local chapters.

 

We talked about putting together a list of chapter members that would be
willing to serve as outreach speakers to other professional groups and
societies. You can view this list (which is just starting) on this wiki
page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/California/Outreach_Speakers

 

We also decided the chapter would give an annual award to a public
agency or other organization in California that we wanted to recognize
for efforts to promote free and open access to California geodata. This
idea is still taking shape, but I think the final award will be a framed
certificate and letter. (Something that would look nice hanging on the
wall.) I hope to start the design of the letter and certificate soon, so
if others wanted to help, I'd appreciate that. The idea of the award is
to reward and encourage good geo data stewardship in California. You can
see the wiki page for the award here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/California/Geodata_Access_Award

 

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[OSGeo-Discuss] FW: Invitation and call for paper - Towards INSPIRE International Workshop 18-19 march 2009

[Suchith Anand]

From: stefania dezorzi [mailto:dezo...@corila.it] 
Sent: 24 February 2009 13:08
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Subject: Invitation and call for paper - Towards INSPIRE International
Workshop 18-19 march 2009


Dear all, 
would you please pass on this information to everyone that could be
interested.
Best regards
GIS4EU Project Coordinator
Dr. Stefania De Zorzi





 



INVITATION AND CALL FOR PAPERS 

 

"Towards INSPIRE" International Workshop 18-19 March 2009 -
Szekesfehervar, Hungary University of West Hungary Faculty of
Geoinformatics, Building "B"
www.inspire.gis4eu.eu

in conjunction with

GIS Open 2009 18-19 March 2009 - Szekesfehervar, Hungary 
Faculty of Geoinformatics University of West Hungary, Main Building 
www.geo.info.hu/gisopen/gisopen2009
 


Workshop Description
The workshop is a paramount opportunity for GIS experts, coming from
research institutions, industry and administrations to meet and exchange
information and experiences. The main focus of the event is to analyse
the INSPIRE Directive (Infrastructure for Spatial Information in Europe)
from a technical point of view and present the results of the recent EU
projects in this field.

In particular the program of the workshop aims to share information on
issues related to international data models and analyse the INSPIRE
Directive as a legislative and methodological framework for all EU
Member States.
GIS experts from academia, government, research organisations and
industry are welcome to submit the abstracts of their latest work for
oral presentation at the workshop. 

Themes
The program committee welcomes papers in all areas of INSPIRE theme and
we particularly encourage contributions in 

# INSPIRE testing and application;
# Instruments and tools for data modelling versus INSPIRE model;
# Geospatial Web Services - services and geodata sharing by the web
# Multilanguage aspects on geodatabase
# Impact of SDI on Europe - experiences with current spatial data
infrastructures at local, regional, national level under the Inspire
directive
# Cost-benefit assessment for INSPIRE implementation

Authors' guidelines
Authors are required to submit their abstracts by e-mail within 27
February 2009.
Submission of an abstract is mandatory for submitting a paper.
See more detailed instructions
 

Oral Presentation and Proceedings
After notification of accepted abstracts, each author is required to
prepare:

Oral presentation: each author has 15 minutes of presentation
including discussion and is supported by slides and Power Point
presentation (in any case the duration of the presentation depends on
the number of papers).
All presentations will be uploaded during the Congress with a
USB Key or a CD-Rom.
Papers: the oral presentation is mandatory for the publication
of paper in the Proceedings of "Towards INSPIRE International Workshop".
Authors are invited to submit their full papers in a Word file,
no later than 30 April 2009 
See more detailed instructions
  



Further information
For further information or questions please send an e-mail to:
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* Levai Pal (FOMI) levai@fomi.hu
* Malerba Valentina (CORILA, Italy) male...@corila.it
* Taupert Szilvia (University of West Hungary) t...@geo.info.hu
 





Key dates

* Abstract submission deadline: 27/02/2009
* Notification of accepted abstracts deadline: 06/03/2009
* Registration deadline: 06/03/2009
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