Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gentle reminder to Nabble users

2012-07-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Hi, This is an update to my previous message about using Nabble. I asked Nabble to clarify some behaviour regarding some of the archives we host at at Nabble. I've got it answered, so I updated the Nabble section: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists#Nabble M On 13 July 2012 19:44, Mateusz

[OSGeo-Discuss] Seconding Board Member Nominations

2012-07-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Hi, Can someone explain me what is this Seconded by and Support by feature listed next to the Board nominations [1]? Is this an element of any formal procedure or it's some kind of elevator pitch? [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2012 Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Seconding Board Member Nominations

2012-07-27 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Mateusz Loskot mate...@loskot.net wrote: Hi, Can someone explain me what is this Seconded by and Support by feature listed next to the Board nominations [1]? Is this an element of any formal procedure or it's some kind of elevator pitch? [1]

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Seconding Board Member Nominations

2012-07-27 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
On 07/27/2012 10:06 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Hi, Can someone explain me what is this Seconded by and Support by feature listed next to the Board nominations [1]? Is this an element of any formal procedure or it's some kind of elevator pitch? [1]

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Boad of Director Nomination: Daniel Morissette

2012-07-27 Thread Anne Ghisla
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:21 -0400 Mark Lucas mluca...@mac.com wrote: I would like to second the nomination for Daniel. After having had the pleasure of working with him on the current board, I frankly can't imagine how we would function without him. He is always a voice of reason and he

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Seconding Board Member Nominations

2012-07-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 27 July 2012 10:32, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: On 07/27/2012 10:06 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Can someone explain me what is this Seconded by and Support by feature listed next to the Board nominations [1]? Is this an element of any formal procedure or it's some kind of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a mixed bag about acceptance of LGPL of various firms and I'm also sure many of us can name firms that have no issue shipping LGPL

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 27/07/2012 12:45, Mateusz Loskot ha scritto: GPL is dying, of natural causes. http://ostatic.com/blog/the-top-licenses-on-github Best regards, is this true only on GH, or is it a general phenomenon? -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Doug_Newcomb
Il 27/07/2012 12:45, Mateusz Loskot ha scritto: GPL is dying, of natural causes. http://ostatic.com/blog/the-top-licenses-on-github Best regards, is this true only on GH, or is it a general phenomenon? Well, if you do a quick search for GPL on github,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 27 July 2012 11:47, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Mateusz Loskot mate...@loskot.net wrote: On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a

[OSGeo-Discuss] Board of Directors nomination: Anne Ghisla

2012-07-27 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Hi all, We would like to nominate Anne Ghisla (from Italy) to the Board of Directors. Anne is very active within the OSGeo community. Among others, We would like to mention some of her activities: - OSGeo Google Summer of Code administrator in 2011 and 2012; - Member of Italian chapter

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Andrew Ross
On 07/27/2012 12:55 AM, Alex Mandel wrote: 3.You can also re-license the finished product under a commercial license of your choice this seems to be the biggest difference with LGPL. But there's also another big difference, and EPL program is incompatible with all other OS licenses

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Boad of Director Nomination: Daniel Morissette

2012-07-27 Thread Andrew Ross
On 07/27/2012 05:43 AM, Anne Ghisla wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:21 -0400 Mark Lucas mluca...@mac.com wrote: I would like to second the nomination for Daniel. After having had the pleasure of working with him on the current board, I frankly can't imagine how we would function without him.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org wrote: BSD, MIT, Apache wouldn't have this issue - at the expense of not having the weak copyleft. Basically people can take the code and do what they wish with it. +1 -- Puneet Kishor

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Landon Blake
FYI: I release all of the code for my projects under the GPL and LGPL, and have no plans on switching for my projects. So the licenses aren't dead quite yet. :] I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the greater adoption that comes with a weaker license, and the stricter

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
On 07/27/2012 11:45 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a mixed bag about acceptance of LGPL of various firms and I'm also sure many of us can name

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Jody Garnett
Nobody has expressed interest in GeoTools and we are very happy where we are with LGPL as a biz friendly license. uDig is attempting an out reach to the Eclipse foundation, both as a source of developer trained up in the Eclipse RCP framework which use as our plugin system, and as we are

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: On 07/27/2012 11:45 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a mixed bag about

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the greater adoption that comes with a weaker license, and the stricter adherence to open source principles that come with a stronger license.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Ian Turton
On 27 July 2012 15:50, Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the greater adoption that comes with a weaker license, and the stricter

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Ian Turton ijtur...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 July 2012 15:50, Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
I hesitate to get into this discussion, but... Puneet wrote: [...] I short-circuit all license discussions in my personal domain by not having any license. Life is too short and precious, in my view, to encumber with these complications. Do you literally mean no license at all? That might

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 27 July 2012 15:27, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: On 07/27/2012 11:45 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a mixed bag about acceptance

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote: I hesitate to get into this discussion, but... Puneet wrote: [...] I short-circuit all license discussions in my personal domain by not having any license. Life is too short and precious, in my view, to encumber with

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Doug_Newcomb
I would have to echo that. I do not see using code at work that does not have any licensing information attached. Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Geotools fork and current relicensing discussion [was Re: The importance of a project's license]

2012-07-27 Thread Jeff McKenna
On 12-07-27 3:09 PM, Adrian Custer wrote: [2] I personally find the failure to make Martin a charter member as one glaring indictment of OSGeo and its community, revealing the inwards looking favoritism and lack of exploration beyond. There are few people as passionate, knowledgeable, or

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote: I would have to echo that. I do not see using code at work that does not have any licensing information attached. Agreed. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Geotools fork and current relicensing discussion [was Re: The importance of a project's license]

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Mandel
On 07/27/2012 11:09 AM, Adrian Custer wrote: Third, the decision strikes me as between honoring the intent of contributors to Geotools 2.6 and honoring the desire of the Geotoolkit contributors to take forwards their code base and build a community after having been rejected by OSGeo.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Andrew Ross
Landon, For what it's worth... I eagerly read that link you provided. It represents one end of the spectrum for values and principles in terms of open source. I believe it's fair to say that end of the spectrum is fairly staunch and recognized by some as radical and even marginalizing. I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Geotools fork and current relicensing discussion [was Re: The importance of a project's license]

2012-07-27 Thread Justin Deoliveira
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Adrian Custer acus...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, On 7/27/12 12:55 AM, Alex Mandel wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a mixed bag about acceptance of LGPL of various firms and I'm also sure

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread rburhum
As someone who has done several for-pay projects (both big and small) to combine proprietary and foss4g code, I can give a summary from a set of anecdotal evidence and trends that I have noticed from a US-based consultant point of view. From my experience, the adoption of an open source project

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board of Directors nomination: Anne Ghisla

2012-07-27 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan
On 2012/07/27 21:56, Margherita Di Leo wrote: Hi all, We would like to nominate Anne Ghisla (from Italy) to the Board of Directors. Great to see Anne as a nominee and also that nomination has been made on behalf of the very active Italian Local Chapter. I strongly support Anne's candidature.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Andrew Ross
On 27 July 2012 18:43, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org wrote: ... A project can decide what makes the most sense for them. Note that for long-term projects a license change is rather difficult to realize

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Ragi, Thank you very much for sharing your experience. You've saved me a lot of time -- Mateusz Loskot (Sent from phone, apology for any top-posting or broken quoting) On 27 Jul 2012 21:11, rburhum r...@burhum.com wrote: As someone who has done several for-pay projects (both big and small) to