Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-25 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 25/03/2017 12:56, Mateusz Loskot ha scritto:

> They do, but at the same time, we wouldn't be where we are now
> in terms of civilisation development. yin/yang

Not quite sure about that: Mateusz, do you have a reference to support this?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Recent comparison of desktop GIS and image processing capability?

2016-05-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/05/2016 23:57, Bruce Bannerman ha scritto:
> Has anyone done a recent comparison of desktop GIS and image processing
> capability?
> 
> It would be interesting to see where we stand now with FOSS4G software
> functionality.
> 
> It appears that this is what ESRI is using to compare the functionality
> of their various license levels:
> 
> https://esriaustralia.com.au/u/lib/cms/arcgis1021-desktop-functionality-matrix.pdf
> 
> Is there something comparable (that also refers to additional capability
> that is offered via OS?

Hi Bruce,
previous attempts proved difficult, as a proper comparison involves a
lot of work. The ESRI document seems a good starting point. Unsure we
would be allowed to reuse it.
Would you be willing to help filling up the table for some free GIS?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FDO Oracle driver

2016-03-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 08/03/2016 09:08, Johan Van de Wauw ha scritto:
> All providers can be found in svn.
> 
> Check kingoracle:
> https://svn.osgeo.org/fdo/trunk/Providers/

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FDO Oracle driver

2016-03-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 08/03/2016 08:37, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> anyone knows the state of this? It seems an OSgeo project:
> https://fdo.osgeo.org/fdooracle/index.html
> but the site seems down.
> Is the code available somewhere?

It's responding now.
However, I cannot find the source code: anyone has a link?
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FDO Oracle driver

2016-03-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all,
anyone knows the state of this? It seems an OSgeo project:
https://fdo.osgeo.org/fdooracle/index.html
but the site seems down.
Is the code available somewhere?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a Mailing List

2016-02-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/02/2016 12:01, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
> Il 12/02/2016 10:27, Markus Neteler ha scritto:

>>> There is information about how to create a mailinglist on the wiki, can I
>>> just follow this?
>>
>> Yes, that link I posted in Paolo's ticket, here again:
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Mailing_Lists

solved, thanks to all, kudos to Jorge!
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a Mailing List

2016-02-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/02/2016 10:27, Markus Neteler ha scritto:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Oliver May  wrote:
>> I have the same problem, (you did actually get a reply, right?).
> 
> I had replied with a question to Paolo :)

Sorry I overlooked that - now replied.

>> I created a trac ticket bu no reply yet,
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1617#ticket.
>>
>> Is there any way I can help the SAC with this, or just do it myself?
> 
> Yeah, this is better discussed on the SAC mailing list.
> 
>> There is information about how to create a mailinglist on the wiki, can I
>> just follow this?
> 
> Yes, that link I posted in Paolo's ticket, here again:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Mailing_Lists
> 
> /me travelling
> Markus
> 
> PS: A comment for this list: I continue to propose to pay an
> interested SAC member (not me) for some hours to get rid of a series
> of open SAC tickets. The volunteering approach doesn't always scale as
> we want.

+1 from me.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a Mailing List

2016-02-11 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 04/02/2016 11:18, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
> Il 04/02/2016 11:13, Fenoy Gerald ha scritto:
>> Dear Paolo,
>> you should use the OSGeo’s Trac system [1] and fill a ticket there with your 
>> detailed request for mailing list creation.
> 
> Done now, thanks.

Ticket opened, but got no reply.
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1614#ticket
Any way to speed this up?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a Mailing List

2016-02-04 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 04/02/2016 11:13, Fenoy Gerald ha scritto:
> Dear Paolo,
> you should use the OSGeo’s Trac system [1] and fill a ticket there with your 
> detailed request for mailing list creation.

Done now, thanks.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a Mailing List

2016-02-04 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all,
whom should we ask to create a new mailing list?
I tried mail...@lists.osgeo.org, sac-ow...@lists.osgeo.org, and
s...@lists.osgeo.org but got no reply.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo-Live metrics going public in next 9.5 release

2016-01-31 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 31/01/2016 04:38, Cameron Shorter ha scritto:

> Most OSGeo-Live projects have very compelling metrics, demonstrating an
> established and active development community. However, there are a few
> projects where OpenHub metrics are dated, incorrectly suggesting a lack
> of project activity. As such, I encourage all projects to review their
> OpenHub metrics before the next OSGeo-Live release, and update where
> appropriate.
> 
> Start by looking here: http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html
> 
> If you have any questions, please ping me, or one of the other people in
> the OSGeo-Live team.

Thanks Cameron, unfortunately, due to svn-git migration, our commit
stats for the first year of life of the project are lost. We did some
research on how to fix this, but couldn't succeed.
Same is true, unfortunately, also for github:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/graphs/contributors
If anyone has ideas on how to fix this, it would be welcomed.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

2015-10-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 18/10/2015 12:34, Angelos Tzotsos ha scritto:

> I see the benefits that Andrea mentioned, and I believe that even if the
> official OSGeoLive copy moves back to OSGeo infrastructure, we will
> probably keep a copy on GitHub for project visibility and for accepting
> pull requests... Lets keep in mind that Linux kernel project is doing
> exactly the same: they host the kernel code under kernel.org and have a
> copy on GitHub as a backup.

This makes sense to me. Looks simmple and effective, not disrupting
workflow for exixting projects.

> It is true that GitHub is not Free Software, so IMO we should not be
> depending on it. I see the ethical issues that arise from using a non
> Free provider

+1

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why. Let's fix it.

2015-09-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 30/09/2015 02:04, Jody Garnett ha scritto:

> I think that the Github move is hazardous. Sure, it is easy, free
> for open-source projects, and really really cool. Granted, it helps
> a lot in getting fluid contributions to open-source projects. But
> ... in two years, they may start shipping sponsors links at the end
> of the Readme files, and in a moments notice you have to watch 20
> seconds ads before cloning. At this point, you will want to bail
> out, only to find out that in fact you can not, because you can not
> delete the project anymore, or the issue tracker database can not be
> exported ...
> 
> 
> Not much of a problem here, since git means each developer has a copy of
> the whole project. I know we had the same story with SourceForge ... 

I think the concerns about GH are real. I feel uneasy putting strategic
pieces of infrastructure in the hands of a company is risky over the
long term. It is true that we have a copy of the whole code base and
history, but the scenarios suggested are possible and worrisome.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo Elections 2015] Nomination for Asahi Kosuke

2015-08-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 30/08/2015 10:36, Nobusuke Iwasaki ha scritto:
> Dear list,
> 
> I'm also would like to nominate Kosuke ASAHI as Charter member.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo Elections 2015] Nomination for Jürgen E. Fischer

2015-08-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 28/08/2015 16:13, Vincent Picavet (ml) ha scritto:
> Hello,
> 
> On 26/08/2015 11:18, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
>> Forwarding Jürgen E. Fischer nomination by Anne Ghisla.
> 
> +1 too, I would'nt have guessed Jef wasn't already a Charter Member !

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo Elections 2015] Nomination for Sebastiaan Couwenberg

2015-08-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 28/08/2015 13:53, Just van den Broecke ha scritto:
> +1 Bas' contributions to the Debian GIS project are of great worth to
> the OSGeo community

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Great momentum for our "Openness in Geoeducation" mission

2015-01-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 24/01/2015 11:54, Suchith Anand ha scritto:
> OSGeo colleagues,
> 
> It is a great pleasure to inform you all that we now have  over 2000 students 
> registered for the free MOOC course on "Introduction to Geospatial Technology 
> Using QGIS" which is excellent momentum for our Openness in GeoEducation 
> mission.
> 
> Details at http://www.osgeo.org/node/1494
> 
> I am fully confident that with the dedication and efforts of you all in the 
> future through our various instruments (OSGeo Live, MOOCs, various university 
> programs, and more importantly a excellent network of great minds) , this 
> will create educational opportunities for hundreds of thousands of students 
> globally. We look forward to working with you all for making geospatial 
> education, software and opportunities accessible to all. Thanks to all of 
> your  efforts which make this possible.

Great news Suchith.
Please during the course underline the importance of not only using
QGIS, but also contributing back, in one of the many possible ways of
doing so. Also, I would feel appropriate, given such a large audience,
contributing back from the course organizers.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 17/09/2014 22:42, P Kishor ha scritto:

> also in this thread) is like waking up at night to find a bunch of strangers 
> chatting
> in your living room.
> 
> Definitely, involving Charter Members would be a very sound and nice thing to 
> do.

+1
I share Puneet feelings.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Membership fee

2014-07-02 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 02/07/2014 12:20, Andrea Aime ha scritto:
> Dirk++ !

+1 to Dirk and Even.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Vienna Code Sprint 2014 - media reach out

2014-04-01 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 01/04/2014 21:15, Jeff McKenna ha scritto:
> And thanks to Stephan and all of the local organizers for a wonderful
> code sprint!  It was great to have so many OSGeo project teams working
> under the same roof, I really hope this type of sprint happens again.

Thanks also from the QGIS team - an excellent organization, setting up a
very productive and enjoyable working environment.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ML statistics

2014-02-19 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 19/02/2014 14:50, Jeff McKenna ha scritto:
> Hi Martin,
> 
> Yes I try to maintain that Stats page, but I do lag behind.  Markus has
> a wonderful cron job that emails me stats every month.  Here they are
> for February 1st:

Thanks. Wouldn't be interesting to put the stats in a public place?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

2013-09-23 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 24/09/2013 02:08, Angelos Tzotsos ha scritto:

> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few weeks 
> incubation
> process.

Hi all.
Incubation is not an issue. The problem, IMHO, is to find a good and productive
governance model. Ideas?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO4W future

2013-09-23 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 23/09/2013 20:46, Cameron Shorter ha scritto:

> From what I can gather from the outside, it seems osgeo4w's primary 
> requirement is a
> 1+ dedicated developer(s) who will drive the core functions of the project. 
> Namely,
> setting a release schedule, chasing developers for contributions, triaging 
> bug lists,
> etc. This can be done with or without a PSC or official OSGeo endorsement.

I slightly disagree with this: what we mainly need IMHO is a clear direction, 
and
therefore a mechanism to take decisions (e.g. the approach from Tamas is quite
interesting, and different from the current one; Mateusz has suggested an 
alternative
route; etc.).
When there is a reliable roadmap, I think resources (time~money) can be found 
from
our Windows user base.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

2013-09-23 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 22/09/2013 10:35, Tamas Szekeres ha scritto:

> I'd suggest Mateusz an Jeff should also be invited (if they have
> time). Any other who is involved in packaging Windows stuff, please
> feel free to check in as well.

I personally would welcome any interested and active party involved.
Please note that PSC is a subset of it, however. To me it makes not
much sense to have all devs in the PSC.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

2013-09-23 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 22/09/2013 10:41, Daniel Morissette ha scritto:

> Personally I'd treat OSGeo4W as a software project, with a PSC, 
> committers, etc. We should do the same with OSGeo-Live actually,
> take it out of the Marketing committee and treat it as a sofware
> project which is what it si really is.
> 
> Then projects (OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live) can apply for incubation
> when they are resdy, etc.

Hi Daniel,
I see two possibilities here:
* osgeo4w is an official foundation project, and as such it does not
need to apply for incubation (it would be circular reasoning); in this
case the PSC should be appointed by the foundation, or
* it is an independent project, thus following the usual procedure; in
this case, better not to use the osgeo4w name and logo, and let the
devs self organize.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

2013-09-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini

On 2013-09-22 00:35, Tamas Szekeres wrote:


And so on (anyone is welcomed to add further experiences or
ideas) 


Hi all.
I agree with Tamas: we first have an issue with governance; once this 
is solved, we can deal with tech issues.
Anyone a suggestion to move forward? To me, the first candidates that 
come to mind are Frank, Tamas, and Juergen: anyone else?

Board, could this be a special OSGeo committee?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO4W future

2013-09-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Done, thanks. Glad to see things are moving.
I think before tackling the tech issues, we have a problem with 
governance here: once we have a PSC, we can go on deciding the way to 
go. Before that, we risk having discussions, duplications, and few 
packages.

Glad to see we have a good response now.
Thanks Frank.
All the best.

On 2013-09-21 04:20, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

Paolo,

As you know I am in support of establishing a PSC for the OSGeo4W
project, and would be pleased to participate.  I would encourage you
to email osgeo4w-dev and lets get this under way.

(unable to sleep at 3am in Notthingham)

Best regards,
Frank

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Hi all.
OSGEO4W is a crucial piece of our infrastructure, and is one of the
main services we are giving for the spread of GFOSS.
I think it does not get the attention it deserves. The active
developer team is very small, many packages are obsolete, and their
update is far from regular. Im not blaming everybody, I sincerely
thank those who contribute; I just try to be objective. I think we
should move forward quickly. I suggest to make a Steering Committee
for OSGEO4W, so to have a clear roadmap, and give Windows (urgh!)
users a predictable environment. I think some of our million users
would be happy to support this effort, if they would know they
contribute actively to something they need.
My previous efforts to raise this question and to improve the
situation have met with no success. I think time is now ripe to
act.
Im available to help.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

2013-09-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini

On 2013-09-21 03:01, Alex Mandel wrote:

We can't give out Windows Virtual Machine(VM) images with Visual 
Studio


I think standalone binaries are really the only way to go for the 
average Win user.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO4W future

2013-09-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Hi all.
OSGEO4W is a crucial piece of our infrastructure, and is one of the
main services we are giving for the spread of GFOSS.
I think it does not get the attention it deserves. The active
developer team is very small, many packages are obsolete, and their
update is far from regular. I'm not blaming everybody, I sincerely
thank those who contribute; I just try to be objective. I think we
should move forward quickly. I suggest to make a Steering Committee
for OSGEO4W, so to have a clear roadmap, and give Windows (urgh!)
users a predictable environment. I think some of our million users
would be happy to support this effort, if they would know they
contribute actively to something they need.
My previous efforts to raise this question and to improve the
situation have met with no success. I think time is now ripe to act.
I'm available to help.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] time for inspire committee at osgeo?

2013-05-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Good idea, we are interested and ready to help if necessary.
Thanks.

Jachym Cepicky  ha scritto:

>Hi,
>
>I'm working on some presentation about OSGeo relationship to INSPIRE
>directive (some preliminary czech version of presentation, which should
>be presented at this years INSPIRE conference [1])
>
>And it came to my mind, that OSGeo does not have any body, related to
>INSPIRE [2]
>
>While I agree, INSPIRE is mainly EU-only topic, I think, implementing
>INSPIRE has big market potential and software, which does not indicate
>support for INSPIRE is banned from to be used in public organizations
>in
>EU. I believe, also "rest of the world" can profit from changes,
>necessary to be implemented in EU.
>
>Therefore I would consider INSPIRE committee in OSGeo as important
>body,
>which would coordinate efforts of OSGeo projects towards INSPIRE, so
>that we could declare: OSGeo projects are INSPIRE ready or we are
>working on it.
>
>Any opinions to this? I'm personally usually against forming "yet
>another committee", but in this case, I do not see the topic to be
>covered and it really is important issue here.
>
>Jachym
>
>[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013-paper
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Case Study

2013-05-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 15/05/2013 02:37, Landon Blake ha scritto:
> I'm looking for a case study on the application of open source geospatial 
> software
> that I can include in Volume 12 of the Journal. Please let me know if you'd be
> willing to share your organizations experience using open source geospatial 
> software
> and we can talk more off list.

Hi Landon,
have you seen
http://www.qgis.org/en/community/qgis-case-studies.html ?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] inspire conference 2013

2013-03-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 14/03/2013 18:41, Jachym Cepicky ha scritto:

> 4) Same applies for workshop, which will be longer, each project
> has chance to prepare custom presentation, ideally presented by
> someone from the community, but not necessarily. Workshop will be
> more technically oriented.

Hi all.
Sorry I couldn't make it.
I have very little time to spare, but if I can be useful, especially
from the QGIS side, I'm ready.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events

2013-03-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 08/03/2013 16:16, Steven Feldman ha scritto:

> I've been following the conversation that was prompted by Paolo's
> comment about FOSS4G pricing

> We are trying to balance the need to have an economically viable
> conference that covers costs and returns funds to OSGeo (which is
> what we were asked to do) with making the event as affordable and
> accessible as possible. We consulted with the OSGeo Board on how to
> balance these objectives before finalising our prices.

Hi all.
We have shown that admitting for free a limited number of top developers
from OSGeo core projects, that could not otherwise attend, will not be a
cost to the conference, but an opportunity. The attitude shown confirms
the widespread feeling of a modest attention to developers, and of the
primary aim of FOSS4G as a moneymaking machine.
To me, developers are really the blood and nerves of free software, and
should be cared of.
This closure to a reasonable proposal does not shed a bight light on
OSGeo, too.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] inspire conference 2013

2013-03-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 08/03/2013 21:30, Jachym Cepicky ha scritto:
> I would support this.
> 
> Anybody else, who will be anyway there?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

2013-03-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 07/03/2013 12:03, Barry Rowlingson ha scritto:

> Given the recent strategic message, I don't think its in the local 
> FOSS4G committee's role to provide bursaries beyond the 
> well-established student discount - certainly not for 2013
> Nottingham anyway. If OSGEO want to do that, then they can consider
> it as a skim off the conference profits. I'm sure the local
> committee will be glad to point people to OSGEO bursaries from the
> conference web page.
> 
> We just need to hear from OSGEO purse-holders to see if they are
> willing.
> 
> I think we already have someone providing education-related 
> bursaries, so there's a precedent.

Hi Barry,
I think we are mixing two issues here:
* 0 fees for developers - as I pointed out, this is not a cost for the
conference, but rather an advantage (participants are more likely to
come if the know most top developers are present); my suggestion is
that this should become a requirement from OSGeo
* bursaries to cover travelling and lodging; this is outside my
original proposal, and should be treated differently.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

2013-03-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 07/03/2013 10:23, Stefano Costa ha scritto:

> So how many lower-rate slots would that require? We've got 17
> official projects and 7 incubating projects according to the home
> page summary. With this year's rates (full 350 £, student 240 £)
> and only 2 developers per project it could account for a difference
> up to 110 £ * 48 = 5280 £. Not terrible after all.

I thnk it's far less than that. Hopefully this will bring people that
otherwise would not come, so no net cost (and a lot more value to the
conference, and a more developer friendly attitude).
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

2013-03-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 05/03/2013 00:51, Frank Warmerdam ha scritto:

> Possibly a scheme were each formal OSGeo project could nominate two
> or three contributors to attend at the student rate?

sounds good.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities

2013-03-04 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 04/03/2013 09:06, Barry Rowlingson ha scritto:

>  The problem with making FOSS4G cheaper (I think "free" would be too
> much)

why? I do not see an issue here. If I wear my businessman het, I'd be happy to 
pay
also for developers participation (it's meeting real developers that makes the
conference so interesting and unique, compared with proprietary stuff). I know 
for
sure many top developers are not coming, and that makes FOSS4G less interesting 
that
it could be.

> for developers would be deciding who was a developer.

easy: regular committers of OSGeo projects.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities

2013-03-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 04/03/2013 00:44, Cameron Shorter ha scritto:
> A productive virtual meeting of the OSGeo Board
> <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2013-02-26> resulted in general 
> consensus
> over OSGeo's priorities, which in turn should help the OSGeo Board and OSGeo
> committees when guiding OSGeo into the future.
> 
> These principles are:
> 
>   * OSGeo should act as a low capital, volunteer focused organisation.
>   * OSGeo should focus support on OSGeo communities and initiatives which 
> support
> themselves.

Hi all.
Thanks for this. I welcome this change, that I think will make OSGeo much more
effective in promoting free and open source geospatial software.
On the other hand, I still have problems with annual FOSS4G, which has a cost 
that
scares away many top developers. IMHO (sorry to insist, I raised this point 
earlier)
the meeting should be free for developers (committers to OSGeo projects), and 
more
expensive for businessman. The net cash flow should be from business to GFOSS
promotion, not drawing from our precious developers.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo as organization at Ohloh?

2013-02-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 01/03/2013 03:36, Cameron Shorter ha scritto:
> Mateusz,
> A few months back I did some ground work into sourcing stats for the 
> OSGeo-Live project.
> This information still needs to be cleaned up (get a full list of projects, 
> make sure
> we are sourcing correct data, etc), but it probably would be a good starting 
> point
> for you.
> 
> http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html

Hi Cameron,
thanks for that. A few notes:
* http://www.ohloh.net/p/qgis should be removed; the good one is
http://www.ohloh.net/p/3663
* http://www.ohloh.net/p/grass_gis is missing.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GRASS community sprint in Genova, Feb 2nd to Feb 9th, 2013

2013-01-24 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 24/01/2013 21:09, Nikos Alexandris ha scritto:
> From my very user point of view, given the current participation plan, I 'll 
> have the opportunity to:
>
> - meet freeriders Markus Neteler, Massimiliano Canata, Paolo Cavalini

honoured by that - unfortunately I'll not be at the CS, arriving only on
the 6th.
hope to see you all then.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mapping advice

2013-01-04 Thread Paolo Cavallini
> Il giorno 04/gen/2013 14:57, "Jo Cook"  <mailto:joc...@astuntechnology.com>> ha scritto:

> Just one thing- you need Mapserver (or Geoserver as an alternative) and 
> something
> like OpenLayers to form the online mapping component. Mapserver does the 
> work of

non necessarily: you can use QGIS-server as well (already integrated into QGIS).
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Certified software policy within international aid agencies

2012-11-23 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 23/11/2012 14:52, maning sambale ha scritto:

> While manning our OSGeo booth in a geo conference today. An employee of an
> international aid agency approached me and said while they very much like to 
> try many
> of our software, they can't easily install them because they have strict IT 
> policy
> that requires that a software should be certified by their organization.

Hi Maning,
could you please ask them what exactly is their certification programme, and 
how to
access it?
It will probably be just boring nonsense, but it might be interesting to 
understand
the process anyway.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Foss4g2013] Code sprints at FOSS4G 2013

2012-10-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 18/10/2012 17:17, Barry Rowlingson ha scritto:
> might distract the developers! And nobody wants to pay to come to the
> conference if they are going to be sitting in the GeoCamp drinking
> beer and working on a project most of the time.
Agreed, I do not think devs should pay to participate to a FOSS event.
Business puts the money, devs the code.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

2012-07-27 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 27/07/2012 12:45, Mateusz Loskot ha scritto:
> GPL is dying, of natural causes.
> http://ostatic.com/blog/the-top-licenses-on-github Best regards, 
is this true only on GH, or is it a general phenomenon?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Did anyone else see this article on OSGeo?

2012-07-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 10/07/2012 18:47, Anne Ghisla ha scritto:

> This readings urges me to continue spreading the word about FOSS[GIS]
> and help users to become more conscious and informed wrt software
> choice.

Agreed, spreading the "right" word is a major task for all free software 
organisations.
I wrote the author, asking to rectify his article; I hope this helps too.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Did anyone else see this article on OSGeo?

2012-07-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 09/07/2012 23:19, Landon Blake ha scritto:
> It was in GPS World:
> 
> http://www.gpsworld.com/gis/gss-weekly/open-source-gis-12997?utm_source=GSS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Geospatial-Weekly_05_17_2012&utm_content=open-source-gis-12997

pity for the usual FUD about lack of support.
thanks for letting us know.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 16/06/2012 22:58, Angelos Tzotsos ha scritto:
> I totally agree with Stefano and Maria.
> We should try to join forces and learn from each other.
> Especially smaller groups like the Greek Chapter can benefit a lot in 
> experience and
> promotion through such procedures and grow faster.

Hi all.
In Italy we have a long history of successful meetings; we (the GFOSS community 
at
large) started with GRASS meetings, and in the last 4 years we (the GFOSS.it
association) have also added (at 6 months interval) a GFOSS Days meeting. The 
two
have different aims, the first more academic, the second more targeted towards 
Public
Administration and business, even though many key people attend both.
My suggestion for a Mediterranean (or whatever) meeting: focus clearly on a 
target,
do not try to "catch everybody": business meeting should be organized 
differently
form, say developer ones.
If you think we can be of help,just ask.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Libraries to support OSGEO metadata standards

2012-06-13 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 13/06/2012 15:45, Markus Neteler ha scritto:

> It is a wiki - please edit it.

done (BTW: there is no single signon on osgeo?)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Libraries to support OSGEO metadata standards

2012-06-13 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 13/06/2012 14:50, Markus Neteler ha scritto:

> While I have no direct suggestion, here a link list which I started some
> time ago:
> 
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Metadata_software

Thanks Markus for this. Perhaps it would be appropriate adding
http://pycsw.org/ ?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Future perspectives for OSGeo

2012-05-02 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 02/05/2012 19:04, Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) ha scritto:
> We see new opportunities by starting joint activities with the Eclipse
> foundation - which is in the process of spawning activities explicitly
> focused on geospatial. They have lots of high level contacts but lack a
> noteworthy community. This is where we in turn did exceptionally well,
> we are perceived as *the* global voice for open source geospatial.
Hi Arnulf.
Thanks for your thoughts and work. As everybody knows, the free GIS
community is unfortunately split, more or less deeply, in two tribes
(C/C++ and Java). I must admit I do not know the Eclipse community very
well, so my words could be inappropriate, but given the presumably
strong tie between Eclipse and Java, I am slightly worried that the move
you propose would make OSGeo perceived as more Java-inclined. Being the
global voice, as you pointed out, is OSGeo strength, and should not be
missed.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo has been accepted at Google Summer of Code!

2012-03-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 16/03/2012 22:09, Anne Ghisla ha scritto:

What to do now?
- OSGeo projects: confirm your participation by replying to this email

QGIS confirms its participation.
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Re: AW: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSM2NetworkDataset Version 1.1 available

2011-11-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 07/11/2011 12:05, Ann Hitchcock ha scritto:


Hi Paolo,

Sorry, just wanted to inform not step on any toes!



sorry if I was rude - that's not what I meant
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSM2NetworkDataset Version 1.1 available

2011-11-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 07/11/2011 11:40, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:




The Geoprocessing Community announces a new release of 
OSM2NetworkDataset! Version 1.1 now supports ArcGIS 10.0, as well as 
ArcGIS 9.3.1. New features include restrictions for tracktype, 
smoothness, surface, and maxwidth.



What licence does this have?


oh, I see: Apache2. Certainly the requirement of using proprietary 
software questions about its appropriateness in this list.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSM2NetworkDataset Version 1.1 available

2011-11-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 07/11/2011 11:36, Ann Hitchcock ha scritto:


Dear List,

The Geoprocessing Community announces a new release of 
OSM2NetworkDataset! Version 1.1 now supports ArcGIS 10.0, as well as 
ArcGIS 9.3.1. New features include restrictions for tracktype, 
smoothness, surface, and maxwidth.



What licence does this have?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] State of the Bounty?

2011-10-11 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 11/10/2011 07:07, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto:

1) What GFOSS or OSGeo projects have looked a bounty system and are either implementing 
it or hope to implement it.  If you are offering up suggestions for "pay for this 
great new feature", that might apply as well.  I'd love to know how you are 
implementing it.
We (QGIS) are doing this. Administration of the thing is proving 
difficult, but we keep on.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with catalog of OGC services

2011-10-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:12:47 +0200, Jeroen Ticheler
 wrote:
> Hi John,
> You can configure GeoNetwork to automatically create the metadata for
you
> for each layer in your services (WMS, WFS, WCS, WPS, SOS are all
> supported). 

See also http://pycsw.org/ (BTW: I could not find a comparison of the
scopes and characteristics of the two - does anybody know?).
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] error in patch

2011-09-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Please send your request to grass-user ML.
Al the best.

Il giorno ven, 30/09/2011 alle 09.08 +0200, marco.donn...@tiscali.it ha
scritto: 
> hallo
> 
> I have some vector maps (hydrographic basin with some attributes 
> like name, mean elevation etc...).

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] advise on WYSIWYG sld editor

2011-08-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 04/08/2011 06:34, maning sambale ha scritto:

> Are there other WYSIWYG options for creating SLD out there?  I
> personally prefer QGIS as the main app for composing the layers and
> then export the style either the project file (.qgs) or the saved
> layer style (.qml)

We (Faunalia) will work on this (SLD in QGIS) in the near future - stay tuned!
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Any projects dealing with spatial joins?

2011-06-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 30/06/2011 00:30, Bruce, Bob (CON) ha scritto:
> Steve,
> 
> I’m pretty sure that the QGIS project could use your talents as a 
> C++
> developer. They have been talking about table joins for awhile now.

Table joins are implemented in QGIS now, in an efficient way.
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Re: Fw: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 14/06/2011 07:07, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au ha scritto:

> How about making contact with an existing professional organisation
> that specialises in providing training to the GIS community?
> 
> Like URISA? Urban and Regional Information Systems Association
> www.urisa.org
> 
> or an organisation that specialises in GIS certification? Like
> the GIS certification institute?
> www.gisci.org

Agreed: please do not reinvent the wheel.
IMHO better follow LPI steps: http://www.lpi.org/
A successful initiative AFAIK.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Certification only; stay out of training :-)

2011-06-13 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/06/2011 16:56, Jody Garnett ha scritto:

> Indeed the main benefit of certification here would be as an income draw to 
> keep
> OSGeo going.

This is also interesting: currently we are using the surplus from courses to 
partly
finance our (mainly QGIS) development. I do not think redirecting these 
resources to
OSGeo would be a clever think to do. There is scope for competition between 
OSGeo and
individual project, which is no good.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Certification only; stay out of training :-)

2011-06-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/06/2011 15:31, Jody Garnett ha scritto:
> What I cannot figure out is where the profit is; or how to pay for people's
> involvement.

A crucial point, I guess.

> Pricing the tests would probably be within market norms; and I would expect a 
> much
> cheaper retry cost (possibly just covering marking time) if we manage to make 
> the
> marking process brutal enough to be useful to potential employers.

The best example I know of it this:
http://www.lpi.org/
I'd avoid reinventing the wheel, and would follow a well trodden path.


> One thing we have a chance to do well here is stress the soft "open source" 
> skills
> that a potential employee must have in order to be sucessful.

Agreed.

> Finally you have the annoyance for companies that are already established in 
> this
> space of having the possibility of competing with new groups that have picked 
> up
> their certifications and appear better "on paper". I cannot honestly have much
> sympathy here, competition is as competition does

Agreed. What we want, at osgeo level, it to have fair competition, and to favour
those who invest back in OS development rather than parasites (we have already 
many
of them around, we do not need to help them).
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Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/06/2011 02:56, Mark Lucas ha scritto:

> I was actually thinking of the reverse - incubation graduation would be 
> contingent on
> getting on the OSGeo-Live disk.  Agree it should be gradual, should start out 
> as a goal.

I think now incubating and graduated project is not very obvious to users, and 
it
should be made more evident.
BTW: why we have projects that are under incubation since so long?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 10/06/2011 09:18, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto:
> Stepping back, I wonder if maybe the high response on this survey question 
> more
> reflects an innate need that some feel is not being currently met.  That is, 
> how
> wide really is the grasp of current trainers to meet the global demand?

IMHO, the requests of a certification were meant:
- for users, who would like to have their certificate stamped with the "OSGeo
certified" logo
- for teachers, who think they can sell better a "certified" course, and have 
less
competition from newcomers.
In both cases, I agree with Cameron: not sure people is ready to pay more for 
this -
probably it's just a "nice to have" feature.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 09/06/2011 21:38, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto:

> Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts 
> were?

If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises are 
currently
offering, -1. We want OSGeo to support our work, not to compete with it. This 
would
have a number of negative consequences, IMHO.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are there proposed ways to raise funds for OSGeo projects?

2011-06-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 06/06/2011 12:24, Duarte Carreira ha scritto:
> I did not know of your past efforts mailing letters. Maybe there are lessons 
> there
> that would allow us to improve the process and be more successful. Or it is 
> really
> a dead-end. I don't know for sure. But if 1 letter gave way to a single 500€
> donation it would be 45% of all funding in the bug squashing initiative page 
> (I'm
> excluding Faunalia's own donation). So maybe even with a small percentage of
> success it could be very effective.

In that case it has been a dead end. Please note: it was addressed at the 
companies
listed in the support page, not at the institutions using QGIS.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are there proposed ways to raise funds for OSGeo projects?

2011-06-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 06/06/2011 11:28, Duarte Carreira ha scritto:
> I like the page for PostGIS Raster coordinating the roadmap and 
> funding/dev.time [1].
> 
>  
> 
> Regarding a tool/site, I haven’t seen one that would personally inspire me to 
> donate,
> or help me convince my company to donate. They feel disconnected from the 
> project
> itself, and honestly they give this image of impersonal, bank-ish approach. 
> Also, the
> money raised seems to indicate poor success rates.
> 
>  
> 
> I feel that for a project, in my particular case, the easiest way to have a 
> positive
> funding decision in the company I work for would be:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)  Receive a letter from OSGeo/Project campaign to raise funds, stating 
> a few
> facts of life in FOSS development, and pointing out the benefits of the model 
> to all
> users/community, ending with an emphasis on community efforts where everyone 
> has its
> role (users/companies and developers/project stewards/osgeo). To make things 
> even
> easier to “stakeholders” present a few “common” donation values… (you know, 
> like a
> checkbox list ;)
> 
> 2)  Allow for optionally directing donated funds to available roadmap 
> features or
> existing bugs (not sure how this would work out in several scenarios, like 
> when
> minimum funding is never reached…)
> 
> 3)  Have a project page where we can see how funding is working, progress 
> is
> made, who is donating, etc. (similar to [1]), but this is a plus, and not 
> really a
> requirement. But it would be nice to be informed of any progress done to the 
> selected
> features/bugs when/if it happened

OK, sounds reasonable. One problem is: how do we collect the addresses? We do 
not
want to spam around. Also, please consider that in the past we have sent 
letters to
all companies listed in the support page, and we received very few responses 
(none of
them positive).
So, it's a difficult path after all.
For now, the only very successful approach has been for more mature 
institutions to
hire directly one developer or a company (this is how much of the work on QGIS 
is
funded anyway).
Our bug squashing initiative[0] has met a reasonable success, and IMHO we should
build on that.
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[0]http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Bugs
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Working together on fundraising?

2011-06-05 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 05/06/2011 07:06, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto:
> Here are the four "traditional" opportunities where fundraising focus takes 
> place - but I'm sure you can think of more creative ones too!
> * Foundation Sponsorship
> * Project sponsorship
> * FOSS4G conference sponsorship
> * General donations
> 
> Other ideas out there:
> * Set up a certification or training program
> * Add a paid membership level
> * Run more events through OSGeo
> * Sell more merchandise
> *... what are your thoughts?
> 
> See attached graph of survey results showing the top 6 selections the 160+ 
> respondents provided.
> 
> Interested in any of these?  Have more ideas of your own?  Let's start an 
> informal group to work on the ideas.  Even if you only have the occasional 
> idea or tip, please don't hesitate.  The previous committee helped assemble 
> the basic Foundation and Project sponsorship ideas that we've had for the 
> past 4 years, we can build on this and put some new strategic direction in 
> place if there is interest.
> 
> It's hard for anyone to consider fundraising on their own without support 
> behind them for the initiative, so if you need to talk privately or have 
> ideas you would like to discuss off-list, just let me know and I'll be glad 
> to work with you on it.   If there are a couple more people interested, then 
> I could set up a skype voice meeting to kick around some more ideas - I just 
> need to know who's interested.  It certainly can be a lot of fun too - 
> especially the brainstorming side, so don't let the financial aspect scare 
> you off ;-)

We @QGIS have a rather different experience. We have a donation program which 
helped
us to raise small but useful money (without that it would be much more 
difficult to
have our regular developer meetings), and helps building up a sense of 
community.
Larger sponsorships and funding are IMHO easier to accommodate, what we need is 
a way
of making it easier and more productive to have microdonation, both aspecific 
("I
like your project, I'm sending a few dollars to express my gratitude") and 
specific
("I think it is important to fix bug #xxx, please add this money to the pile, 
to help
motivating a developer to fix it").
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are there proposed ways to raise funds for OSGeo projects?

2011-06-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 03/06/2011 13:40, Markus Neteler ha scritto:

> A relevant group are the institutional sponsors (companies, agencies and
> so on). To better address the small donations I once started
>   http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
> which is based on ideas from Paolo Cavallini. Recently it has been picked
> up again.
> 
> Several OSGeo projects have their own donation page (see above WIki
> page) but for sure more could be done.

Yes; it would be great to have a joint effort (we all have limited time to deal 
with
these issues); a few years ago I asked OSGeo, but the foundation did not seem
interested in this (and taking 25% from donations did not make it an attractive
option, honestly).
I would be interested in exploting any option.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] polls

2011-05-25 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all.
Would it be possible to have polling facilities on OSGeo drupal?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] pycsw 0.1.0 released

2011-04-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il giorno mer, 20/04/2011 alle 02.38 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos ha scritto: 
> The pycsw team announces the release of pycsw 0.1.0. This is the first
> release of the project towards version 1.0.0. 

Thanks Angelos. From a quick look, I do not understand if this aims to
be a lighter, non-java replacement for GeoNetwork, or has a different
scope. Can you please clarify this?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Correct List for Newcomers

2011-03-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il giorno mer, 30/03/2011 alle 10.17 +1300, Peter ha scritto:

> 3. For some odd reason you cant paste coords into the UI. Odd because who 
> remembers and types 9 digit numbers.

Could you please add a ticket for this?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open-source project site construction

2011-03-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il giorno mar, 08/03/2011 alle 13.51 +0100, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas ha
scritto:
> I agree this is a nonsense, but as I said, many people are suffering
> those restrictions so as they are applied to many services and sites
> (not only for developers, also for something as normal as getting a java
> virtual machine, for example) I would encourage to avoid using them.
> 
> SEXTANTE for example moved from Google Code to OSOR.eu forge because of
> this.

Just to make it clear: can people from, say, Cuba, download packages
from OSGEO servers? A few years back we had reports they could not.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open-source project site construction

2011-03-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il giorno mar, 08/03/2011 alle 08.28 +0100, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas ha
scritto:
> I wouldn't suggest google code as a  repository unless you don't care
> about people living in USA embargoed countries. Google apply USA
> export restrictions and developers can't access those repositories (a
> Cuban OSGeo-es member suffers this stuff all the time).

BTW: is this stil a problem with the OSGEO repo?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Command line tool for dissolving polygon boundaries

2011-03-01 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il giorno mar, 01/03/2011 alle 23.31 -0800, Dan Putler ha scritto: 
> Thanks for your advise.

Glad you liked it. I must add, another advantage is that writing your
script is most easily done through QGIS, where you can test each
individual command, playing with options and parameters, and simply
copying the readymade command line to a text file.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Command line tool for dissolving polygon boundaries

2011-03-01 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il giorno mar, 01/03/2011 alle 23.25 +0100, Paolo Corti ha scritto: 
> Your only option here could be to use GRASS, but as far as I know you
> need to import your shapefile to the GRASS database, use a GRASS
> command (v.reclass [0]) and export back to shapefile the result, so it
> is not very direct.

Not very direct, but it's only one more command (v.in.ogr), with the
additional bonus that importing into GRASS you can clean up invalid
topologies, close empty gaps, remove unwanted overlaps, etc.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating Value from Raster Data

2011-01-04 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il giorno mer, 05/01/2011 alle 14.14 +1100, Noli Sicad ha scritto: 
> Just to add what Alex mentioned already, here a link for GRASS Image
> classification (how to).
> 
> http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Image_classification

Also, have a look to Orfeo ToolBox (OTB), who also has a QGIS plugin,
unfortunately not (yet?) on main QGIS (requires external installation,
may not be easy).
http://orfeo-toolbox.org
http://wiki.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php/Quantum_GIS_plugins

I would vote for its inclusion on trunk, however.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: 2010 Charter Member Selection

2010-11-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 12/11/2010 13:17, Paul Ramsey ha scritto:

OSGeo members,

The 2010 process is complete, and the new charter members are, in alphabetical 
order:


Compliments to all, especially the now large female presence!
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Bug report response time

2010-11-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 11/11/2010 23:12, Mateusz Loskot ha scritto:


Statistics is evil. As long as the methodology is right,
you can proof any bullshit you like, or shoot yourself in your the foot.
So, I'd be careful.


Sorry, I do not agree. Statistic is good, if (as anything) you use the 
correct method. Using single cases, as you did, is not using proper 
statistics. If you analyse averages or medians, quartiles and standard 
deviations, you get meaningful tests of your hypotheses.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] trac stats not working

2010-09-19 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Hi all.
Trac stats

https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticketstats

are throwing an error:
===
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/web/api.py",
line 376, in send_error
'text/html')
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/web/chrome.py",
line 733, in render_template
message = req.session.pop('chrome.%s.%d' % (type_, i))
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/web/api.py",
line 195, in __getattr__
value = self.callbacks[name](self)
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/web/main.py",
line 265, in _get_session
return Session(self.env, req)
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/web/session.py",
line 162, in __init__
self.get_session(req.authname, authenticated=True)
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/web/session.py",
line 178, in get_session
super(Session, self).get_session(sid, authenticated)
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/web/session.py",
line 59, in get_session
(sid, int(authenticated)))
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/db/util.py",
line 64, in execute
return self.cursor.execute(sql_escape_percent(sql), args)
File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11.7-py2.5.egg/trac/db/util.py",
line 64, in execute
return self.cursor.execute(sql_escape_percent(sql), args)
InternalError: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end
of transaction block
===

Should I open a ticket?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Commercial support

2010-09-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 03/09/2010 11:49, Sebastian E. Ovide ha scritto:

> Are you guys aware of companies that provide commercial support for
> OSGeo  ?

Hi all.
To me, this means our marketing could be improved, raising the visibility of the
commercial support page.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] server down?

2010-07-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 22/07/2010 17:22, Frank Warmerdam ha scritto:
> I think we are functioning reasonably well within the financial, volunteer
> and "many critical services" situation we face.

ok, thanks a lot for the explanation.
All the best, and looking forward to see osgeo4w back! :)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] server down?

2010-07-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 22/07/2010 16:33, Howard Butler ha scritto:

> The support of OSGeo's system infrastructure is a volunteer affair.  If it is 
> not
> up, or not up to your standards, it is because you haven't volunteered to 
> help fix
> it :)  We can do better with your help.

Mine was not a critique to the efforts of volunteers (never!), but to the 
strategic
decision to leave the infrastructure management to volunteers. I think we need
professional support in this area, to have better performances and higher 
availability.
I repeat: no critique whatsoever to volunteers, just a suggestion for a 
strategic change.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] server down?

2010-07-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 22/07/2010 15:58, Mike Toews ha scritto:
> See: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeo4w-dev/2010-July/001001.html

Thanks Mike.
I knew this, but the questions are:
- any idea about when the service will be back? Not being able to distribute 
update
packages is a serious issues for many
- (sorry if I'm rude, but) are we sure we can't do better to manage a vital
infrastructure? More than 10 days on a backup server does not sound very good 
to me;
weren't the blades new?
Any opinion?
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[OSGeo-Discuss] server down?

2010-07-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all.
AFAIK, the server who hosts the osgeo4w packages is down, and is replaced by a
backup, who does not allow upload by packagers: does anybody confirm this? Has
anybody an idea of when this will be fixed?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UN FAO and FOSS / OSGEO Projects

2010-07-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 21/07/2010 00:35, Joseph Reeves ha scritto:
>> Now, do you know any other UN FAO sponsored FOSS / Geo projects?
> 
> Not only software, but data too; the FAO have released Africover data:
> http://www.africover.org/

Well, not really, it seems:
===
Your request is of a public resource, approval for this resource shall be 
considered.
 Please use the user panel at: http://www.africover.org/system/user/ to monitor 
the
status of your request and to download the data sets if approved.

Your request will be processed within 14 days.  Should you not receive a 
response to
this request in due time, please contact the administrator through the control 
panel
for assistance.

Please note that your request will be rejected if you belong to a 
private/commercial
organization or if you are an individual user.  As stated in the Africover 
website
within the Data Dissemination section, Africover is not allowed to release data 
to
individuals or private and commercial organizations.
===
Quite strange, for data classified as "Public domain", isn't it?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS GIS for Grazing Planning

2010-06-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 22/06/2010 18:58, Frank Aragona ha scritto:
> Is anybody aware of the use of open source GIS tools for grazing
> planning?  I'm very interested in the prospects of taking a pre-existing
> platform and further developing it.  Or, in the absence of such a
> platform (which is likely), I'd like to develop and work with partners
> in the development of this platform.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
desktop, web, or both? What are your requirements?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Drupal GEO mailing list proposal

2010-06-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Il 20/06/2010 13:27, strk ha scritto:

How many of you would be interested in having
a mailing list setup for coordinating GEO-related
development within Drupal ?


Great idea. We have also worked on the various geomodules for drupal, 
and found the situation really confusing.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Drupal Organic Groups and Local Chapters

2010-06-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:14:01 +0200, Yves Jacolin  wrote:
> Le vendredi 18 juin 2010 09:08:42, Paolo Cavallini a écrit :

> OSGeo-fr already get its drupal template :)  so it would be great to be
> hosted 
> in OSGeo host.
> 
> But as we are a legal association we need to split our member in two
> groups: 
> legal member of the association and others. If it is too complicated we
can
> 
> manage member of legal association in other way.

Same here. I guess this is a general issue.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Drupal Organic Groups and Local Chapters

2010-06-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:33:30 -0700, Tyler Mitchell

wrote:
> Just considering a few options for helping bring out local chapters
> together in a meaningful way and one option is to use Organic Groups in
our
> Drupal framework.  Has anyone on this list had meaningful interaction
with

I think any OSGeo tool should integrate rather than dublicate analogous
tools set up by local chapters.
This should be relatively easy when, as in the case of GFOSS.it, LC
infrastructure is also based on Drupal.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 07/06/2010 17:05, Yves Jacolin ha scritto:
> Boob,
> 
> You mean something like this : http://www.ohloh.net/p?q=osgeo ?

BTW, I wouldn't agree with many of the ratings.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Any thoughts on the potential for using Seadragon as a map browsing interface?

2010-04-27 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Andrea Aime ha scritto:
> Landon Blake ha scritto:
>> I’m not a web developer, but it seemed like the tech could be used for
>> browsing high-resolution map images.
>>
>>  
>>
>> http://www.seadragon.com/
> 
> Does not work at all on my Ubuntu 64 bit. Sigh...

Strange, it does smoothly on my Debian unstable, also 64 bit.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open source alternative to tracking analyst

2010-04-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
brian heap ha scritto:
> Try Geozui 4d, written by Dr. Colin Ware, University of New Hampshire.
>  He tracks whale movements in 4d as retrieved from acoustic transponder
> tags placed on the whale's back. the link is below.
> 
> http://vislab-ccom.unh.edu/GeoZui4D/

It does not seem open source and free software, though.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps

2010-01-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
> -Original Message-
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Alex Mandel
> Sent: 07 January 2010 10:46
> To: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps
> 
> miblon wrote:
>> Hi there folks,
>>
>> I am currently investigating the open source options for generating
>> density maps.

Youa can also do that easily with QGIS and/or GRASS.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini

Cameron Shorter ha scritto:

A couple of links to reviews of desktop clients at:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Case_Studies#Review_of_Open_Source_Desktop_Clients 



In particular Stefan's summary of clients is the best I've seen so far.
http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/ is quite comprehensive.

The steps I see toward kicking off a Desktop comparison at FOSS4G are:

1. One person to step forward and offer to drive the comparison 
through to completion. (This can be a couple of people, but it usually 
starts with one). Effectively act as a project coordinator, setting up 
wiki pages, contacting potential parties, ensuring scope is capped. 
Paul Ramsey, Andrea Aime and Jeff McKenna seemed to be the driving 
people behind the WMS shootout. If you are reading this and think you 
might be able to fill this role, then please speak up.

...
5. Just before foss4g: Pens down, collate results, present.


I think I can do something for QGIS, if I'm not left alone ;)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini

sampe...@gmail.com ha scritto:

A feature comparison is a good start and many masters projects have already 
done that as well as xcompare them to closed source desktop apps.
  

Hi.
I only have seen a few, rather incomplete, comparisons: do you have 
links for more? Thanks.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout at FOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:32 +1100, Cameron Shorter
 wrote:
> Andrea,
> That looks like an excellent basis to start from.
> 
> Were the results of the desktop comparison written up somewhere?
> 
> While a feature comparison is valuable, the end user is also interested 
> is other metrics which are harder to collect.

Hi Cameron.
Unfortunately we could not collect "hard" data about this, and frankly I
think this would be very difficult to do - a desktop is much more
subjective than a server. What is difficult for me can be easy for you,
etc.
Anyway, I think such a comparison is really necessary.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Qgis-user] GDAL Tools icons

2009-11-27 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Robert Szczepanek ha scritto:
> First of all I had to make some order in icons and put them together on
> one page
> http://robert.szczepanek.pl/gis-icons-0.1/#request
> At the same time I have started drawing icons for your plugin. I will
> update them there.

Hi Robert and all.
Icons added to GDAL tools (also, some bugs have been fixed, and new features
implemented). Only grid is missing - I guess we should use the same icon also 
for the
other interpolation plugin (C++ by Marco) - the one currently used for that 
plugin is
difficult to understand IMHO.
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Re: [Fwd: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GDAL and ESRI]

2009-11-25 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Arnulf Christl ha scritto:
> I suggest to not use the term "viral effect" but rather call it a
> "vaccine".

or "inherited", possibly more appropriate: you cannot get infected by free 
software,
but if you derive from it, i.e. you share a common ancestor, you also get some 
of its
properties (i.e. licencing).
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