Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Possible CS-W Portal Opportunity
Paul, pls keep us current on LL's activities on this. My interest is in possible uses by local gov't public safety agencies. (FYI, I've worked with some LL people back in the late 50's during the Whirlwind/SAGE days.) AS On 2/3/14, Breimyer, Paul - 0442 - MITLL paul.breim...@ll.mit.edu wrote: My name is Paul Breimyer and I work for MIT Lincoln Laboratory, a government research lab (FFRDC). We are building what is effectively a secure CS-W portal interface for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). I'm writing to see if OSGeo might be interested in the portal if it were open sourced appropriately. As part of this work we reviewed GeoNetwork: the backend services were well implemented, but we found the portal to be lacking capabilities that were necessary (at least for our use cases). There may be an opportunity to enhance the GeoNetwork portal to facilitate broader adoption of the CS-W standard. Please let me know if there's interest to learn more. Thanks, Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] About Interactive Map patent application by Apple Inc.
one's-own-horn-tooting Our Open Source CAD (Computer-Aided-Dispatching, at www.ticketscad.org ) has included for several years now the feature in which given the incident location, the application returns the list of response units, ordered by proximity, with driving directions - Google generated - from the nearest. Directions for others are presented when any other is clicked. /one's-own-horn-tooting I plead guilty here of using some rather obvious freely-available tools, sans any special innovation on our part. I sincerely hope that Apple is dissuaded from pursuing this, or is shot down hard if they do proceed! AS On 12/21/13, Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: It was tl;dr, but the quick scan I did seems to have two things that I haven't seen yet -- 1. multi-touch: touch two points on a map and the best route is displayed immediately; 2. dim everything else thereby highlighting only what one wants to look at. There may be other new things in that long application. Interestingly #2 above reminds me of line graphs that Manish Agarwala from Berkeley had invented a long time ago that MapBlast incorporated in its routing algorithms. Then MapBlast was bought out by MS maps outfit (I think it was called MSN) and the feature existed for a while; and then that morphed into Bing and it even existed in Bing Labs for a while and then seems to have vanished. I used to love that line drawing feature. You could ask for a route as a line drawing, and it would only highlight the most important thing, the route, along with associated land marks, and dim everything else. On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Simon (SPDBA) Greener si...@spatialdbadvisor.com wrote: While I am not sure of the features in osgeo software to which Venkatesh refers, most of what appears in the patent application are natural improvements to existing map functionality that is common to any mapping software. I can't see Google letting this through without a fight. I agree with Venkatesh that an objection be lodged. Simon Greener On 21 Dec 2013 17:05, Venkatesh Raghavan ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp wrote: Dear All, I think the OSGeo should express strong objection to the Interactive Map patent filed by Apple on 17 Dec 2012 [1]. The contents of the patent [1] describe features that OSGeo software already provides for over a decade. Best Venka [1] http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFu=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htmlr=2p=1f=Gl=50d=PG01S1=%28715%2F771.CCLS.+AND+20131219.PD.%29OS=ccl/715/771+and+pd/12/19/2013RS=%28CCL/715/771+AND+PD/20131219%29 .. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining a GIO position (or attmepting to . . .)
Well, adherence to standards is integral to the issue of interoperability, a critical project success factor in this increasingly interconnected world. And, there's no motivation for vendor lock-in, since the revenue protection motivation (usually!) doesn't exist. (I can tell you re all of the verbiage I've excreted in a prior life justifying sole-source procurements.) Also, possibly important for the devout among us is that the Good Lord must love standards; She made so many of them! AS On 10/16/13, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us wrote: Hi all, I wonder if I could get some feedback on the following statement, I'm looking for the other side of the argument (I know it's hard to put yourself there :c). Open Source software enforces standards ... snip / ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] One Lecture on Open Source Geospatial
An application area often ignored in the GIS community is that of Computer-Aided-Dispatch, a key element of emergency response, in which location data is clearly critical. Our Open Source CAD, Tickets by name, is one example. (www.ticketscad.org) On 9/30/13, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: A colleague who lectures on GIS at the university asked me if I'd give him some advice on open-source geospatial so he could at least introduce his third year geography environmental science undergraduates to the idea. Thanks to the joy of site licenses the students get to use ACME Proprietary GIS System without having to worry about the cost. So anyway, I offered to teach the lecture for him. What can I do in 50 minutes (and possibly a workshop) for 90 undergraduates? Here's a brain dump: Compare and contrast: Free/Open/Proprietary/Closed/Commercial. Copyright/Licensing/GPL/Copyleft etc. Open Standards: formation and importance - talk about the OGC, general goodness of interoperability Open source development advantages/perceived disadvantages and rejoinders to those. Commercialising Open Source, open source in industry. Open Source in Education - reproducible science, 'climategate' as a failure of openness? Case Studies: Open source in government - global deployments as case studies Open source in the UK: Ordnance Survey/Met Office case studies - thats probably enough for 50 minutes. If I can do a workshop I'd probably just get them to boot up OSGeo Live and play with QGIS for an hour, maybe try and duplicate one of their GIS exercises from an earlier module (load layers, buffer, overlay, report...). Any thoughts? Barry ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for a one pager write up for Why Open Source is good.
You're not dependent on the vendor's business plans, which are determined mostly by their marketing people. AS On 9/12/13, Newcomb, Doug doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote: You don't have to wait for a year or more to have access to a bugfix/enhancement of the software, you can try it right away and influence the resolution of the problem. You can influence the direction the software roadmap takes by funding contributions, paying for support, reporting bugs, and registering desired features with the project. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Data, Open Source or Open Configuration, is there a method for Open Sourcing a particular configuration of Open Source projects?
All, my ears are way up on this. In addition to a native one written by Andy here, we're doing AVL within our Tickets CAD application by connecting to the respective proprietary servers, rather than accommodating n end-devices (where n is a large number!) We've written parsers for each of the supported systems, and I can say that each such is a bit of an adventure.(The Good Lord must love standards; She made so many of them.) So, I'm listening. AS Veni, Vidi, Velcro On 2/6/13, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us wrote: All, Seems like a simple question, but I'm not so positive the more I think about it. We've been working on an Automatic Vehicle Location application that is loosely built on OpenSource Projects. I say loosely because most if not all of the Open Source components could be swapped out for Commercial versions if needed. There was a desire early on to eventually open source parts of the project in some manner. Currently this open sourced aspect is looking like a configuration/specification for how data is stored and transferred between the components, and this is what we propose to open up to the community. It's heavily focused on the geospatial aspects for obvious reasons, but I would suspect there may be other uses for the configuration unrelated to tracking of vehicle locations. Currently the components being used are (and there will likely be more in the future) are: MapServer OpenLayers GeoMoose Postgres/PostGIS Each of the these components has been configured specifically for the project and these configuration templates would be included as part of the project. There could even be an installer script included at some point. So, to put it more simply, does anyone here have any suggestions/comments on how to proceed with project packaging? Thanks Bobb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public Safety OSGeo Interests Here?
Bob, thanks; that is most interesting. I will be looking to get current on what it is and how we might connect up. Pls keep me in the loop re anything happening there that wdn't show up on the OSGeo list. AS On 1/24/13, Moskovitz, Bob@DOC bob.moskov...@conservation.ca.gov wrote: Hi Arnie, I'm interested in Public Safety application area. We have a yearly exercise called Golden Guardian and this year the exercise is a simulation of a catastrophic earthquake in the San Francisco Bay area. We are using Unified Incident Command and Decision Support (http://uicds.us/) to share information with with other state and federal agencies that are participating in this exercise. It would be so cool if there are more UICDS clients such as mobile apps. Bob Robert Moskovitz California Geological Survey Seismic Hazards Zonation Program CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This message contains information from the State of California, California Geological Survey, which may be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law, including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Arnie Shore Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:46 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public Safety OSGeo Interests Here? I'd be interested in hearing from any of you with interests in the Public Safety applications area. I for one have such interests, being one of the developers behind our Open Source (mostly) Computer-Aided-Dispatch application, Tickets by name, in which geo plays a major role. In truth my specialized interest right now is rather narrow, this being in interoperability with many of the commercial deodata formats, notably accommodating shapefiles within Leaflet for use with OSM tilesets and data. Which interest admittedly is probably best served by hanging out in the Leaflet and OSM neighborhoods. But other practitioners in the PS world may well have broader interests than mine, and I'd like very much to contact you to see if any cross-fertilization occurs. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Public Safety OSGeo Interests Here?
I'd be interested in hearing from any of you with interests in the Public Safety applications area. I for one have such interests, being one of the developers behind our Open Source (mostly) Computer-Aided-Dispatch application, Tickets by name, in which geo plays a major role. In truth my specialized interest right now is rather narrow, this being in interoperability with many of the commercial deodata formats, notably accommodating shapefiles within Leaflet for use with OSM tilesets and data. Which interest admittedly is probably best served by hanging out in the Leaflet and OSM neighborhoods. But other practitioners in the PS world may well have broader interests than mine, and I'd like very much to contact you to see if any cross-fertilization occurs. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mapping advice
WRT learning curves, let me add OpenLayers to that list; I've come to favor Leaflet/cloudmade over OL as a result of its comparative ease of use - at least with my not-too-demanding requirements. AS On 1/4/13, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: I agree - GRASS is awesome software - but for a beginner it's too steep of a learning curve. I scratch my head using it and I've been doing this for a while (granted not with Grass) but still. With what she is doing - QGIS should work fineMapserver/Geoserver is a bit of work but very doable. Especially with an OSGEO chapter somewhere in the vicinity - it's all good. BTW - ArcGIS User for 20 years - QGIS is my new GIS love affair. Randy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Supporting Standards
WISECRACKThe Good Lord must love standards - She made so many of them!/WISECRACK ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] gps tarcking
See http://opengts.sourceforge.net/ AS On 9/27/12, bachi polavarupu bachi.polavar...@gmail.com wrote: hi i am a large taxi operator from india...i want a custom build gps tracking software where all the vehicles will apear in my website and my office staff will able to allot taxis near to the customers...can u please let me know the technologies involved in it and if u can please suggest a developer website who can do this for us Regards bhaskar ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GIS Homeland Security (UNCLASSIFIED)
Interesting article, of course. Now feel free to tag the following as as snide remark. I have to point out that the South Succotash Fire and Emergency Med's team have been doing this kind of GIS thing for some years now, just up the street from some of you. Not calling it that, but rather Computer-Aided-Dispatch (CAD), an example being our free Open Source CAD (www.ticketscad.org), targeted to teams (often smaller, or all volunteer) who'd rather spend scarce $ on comm's or equipment. Like where's the target/Incident, where are suitably qualified,equipped and available responders, and who's closest time-wise? Believe me when I say that I understand the scale/urgency/availability issues involved. But the SSFEM guys deal with life-threatening situations on a day-in, day-out basis. Because the smaller teams typically have so little $$$ to spend they're just not seen as an attractive market. Therefore, Tickets CAD. (The larger jurisdictions typically WILL commit $ to commercial CAD products, and live with the problems attendant upon proprietary products.) For my money, these teams are the authentic backbone of homeland security . So there! AS On 9/27/12, Schlagel, Joel D IWR joel.d.schla...@usace.army.mil wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE An article in HS Today GIS: The Backbone of Homeland Security has a section Market Completion which discusses open source geospatial. http://tinyurl.com/93pe7te or original link http://www.hstoday.us/briefings/today-s- news-analysis/single-article/gis-the-bac kbone-of-homeland-security/f7d007dd6e163 400213773406b6b6dd3.html Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Some Awful - IMO - GIS Work
I hope no one here is party to any of this, but I have to share it. See http://www.drc-group.com/project/footprint.html AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award
I dunno who's eligible to vote here, but this lurker - who's committed to using OSM in our F/OSS projects only because of OL's opening our eyes to it - strongly agrees. AS On 9/18/12, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com wrote: I Nominate Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award. I can not imagine where the OpenLayers project would be without Chris' energy and enthusiasm. Chris burst onto the FOSS4G scene at the 2006 conference in Lausanne and his name was immediately synonymous with OpenLayers. I hope that other members of our community who are closer to the OpenLayers project will support my nomination and provide more detail of Chris' contributions. Rich -- Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com www.greenwoodmap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source GIS and Transportation
Interested, here, although participation will depend on several factors, including your thoughts re appropriateness. I'm the chief cook and bottle-washer on an Open Source Computer-Aided-Dispatch application - see www.ticketscad.org. While our geo engine currently is GMaps, we're moving that towards OSM and Leaflet/OpenLayers. AS On 9/18/12, T M calu_...@yahoo.com wrote: I am part of a Transportation GIS group and we are looking to be put together a webinar on using Open Source for Transportation in the United States. Is anyone interested or know if anyone? Thanks Tom Mueller GIS 4 LIFE ! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Africa Geospatial Forum 2012 and Geospatial World Forum call for papers
A quick word here to encourage consider adding public safety to the topics addressed at conferences such as this. This wd include crisis response, medical emergency handling, police and fire systems. Although some of these application areas have reached a level of maturity data-wise, adding available and emerging geospatial capabilities can help achieve new levels of responsiveness and timeliness. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers.Popup (form) triggered from outside map div
Maybe onclick = event.cancelBubble = true; someplace in the chain, if it's bubbling doing that. On 8/31/12, Dori izzybit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need to create a popup window with a form to be processed in 2 different ways: clicking on map or entering a location identifier in a form on a div other than the map div. In both cases the same Javascript function is call. If I click on map the sequence of 0) zooming map 1) OpenLayers.Popup showing form to select data presentation type, 2)window popup showing form to choose info to display, 3)window popup showing report for the data works OK. If I enter location identifier and submit form then, 0) map zooms OK, and then popup 1) above shows up briefly and then init() is called without letting me keep with the process of choosing. Any idea on how to prevent this behind the scenes call to init() when identifier form is used? Thanks ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Advocates - an Issue/Point
Possibly on the edges of this discussion, but let me raise this point focused at OSGeo Advocates here as well as practitioners in general. I'm the project leader on a free Open Source project that makes available a Computer-Aided Dispatch (CAD) application, typically used by emergency response teams, whether fire, medicine/ambulance, or police. (See www.ticketscad.org) Location information - of incidents, response units,treatment facilities, etc. - is clearly a fundamental CAD requirement, and most/all modern applications include geo in some form. Commercial CAD applications can be quite expensive, which helps explain the 40% non-USA download rate from SourceForge among other sites, including our own at www.ticketscad.org. By name, it's Tickets. While I understand that the focus of many geo practitioners here can be other than run-of-the-mill applications like CAD, I like to point out the importance of CAD in the day-to-day operations of many important services provided by local government agencies, volunteer teams, and commercial operations. Its ubiquity in so many familiar venues can obscure the fact that the costs of CAD acquisition and deployment too often deters its use in operations where it can assist in raising the effectiveness levels for often overworked teams. Which remains our motivation. Under the heading of full disclosure: While we have a conversion to base the geo components on OpenStreetMap/Openlayers, at this writing we're not yet there, and are using one of the GYM engines. My purpose here is to raise the awareness level of the OS Geo Advocates and enthusiasts re an application area - Computer-Aided-Dispatch - which may not often be considered under the general OS Geo rubric, but deserves to be, IMO. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] any ideas on how to Monitor and Review 'random' files?
My take is that the major item not readily available is a notification mechanism, to be triggered when something changes, with users registering themselves with some kind of call-back function. I dunno what's avaiable in desktop software libraries for this, but I see html5 providing such a mechanism in its 'local storage' feature. Like see http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/06/html5_storage_t.html and http://html5demos.com/storage-events. BTW, I believe the OP is looking for handling not a random file (hardly that!) but an 'arbitrary' user-selected one. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] any ideas on how to Monitor and Review 'random' files?
Nibbling away: Carsten's quite correct, re server-side work needing to be done. Now I believe an approach based on xmpp might provide a solution; Googling for XMPP and collaboration finds several interesting possibly suitable approaches. Especially interesting, IMO, is http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-realtimeXMPPtut/section3.html AS On 2/17/12, Dave Patton da...@confluence.org wrote: On 2012/02/17 11:51 AM, Arnie Shore wrote: BTW, I believe the OP is looking for handling not a random file (hardly that!) but an 'arbitrary' user-selected one. Arnie is correct - I should have perhaps said 'arbitrary'. The point is that the Reviewer can't necessarily anticipate how the 'files of interest' will have been 'organized' by the Workers. -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Automatic geocoding of PDF documents
Steve, thanks. I'll discard the code I'd started with, then. ;-} AS On 1/17/12, Stephen Woodbridge wood...@swoodbridge.com wrote: Arnie, I think that there is no simple answer ... snip / ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] ADC Maps - Coord Conversion Tools?
Folks, the ADC Map grid system is proprietary, and I'm searching for any available tools to assist in converting grid id to lat/lng. Thanks for any information. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Automatic geocoding of PDF documents
I wonder if someone can describe what's seen as the tall-pole-in-the-tent here, difficulty-wise. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] re: question
Folks, Tilottama Ghosh's remark re ... how unaffordable ... motivates this (mostly) lurker to riff (once again) a bit thereon. I'm the lead developer on a free open source application that does Computer-Aided Dispatch management, AKA CAD. Now CAD, IMO, is the quintessential example of location-aware technology. And has been, since its inception AFAIK in the late 1950's. For the CAD-unaware among you, it's ubiquitous; if you dial the equivalent of the US 911, the odds are high that the call-taker is at a CAD terminal, capturing the information needed for a response by the nearest suitable response unit. At it's most elementary, CAD can help answer questions re where are the response resources, and where are the incidents that require their attention. In many (most?) instances it supports a 24x7 operation. But not all CAD usage is of the Dude, where's my ambulance? type. As example, some of our users have expanded on that theme to implement a Call us if you're too drunk to drive for a ride home by a sober driver (although presumably not too drunk to call). Others schedule and provide emergency transport during worst weather conditions (hello, UK!), and others (lots, actually) use it to manage special events, in which medical attention may be needed. Notably, many of these teams are staffed by volunteers, and you can readily draw correct inferences re their budgets for products like CAD. While CAD is readily recognized as an application area, its basic capabilities - if suitably conceived and designed - can be closely associated with Situational Awareness, a possibly even more universal need. The motivation behind our developing Tickets CAD was that despite CAD's relative maturity as an application area as well as its ubiquity, the commercial marketplace's requirements for revenue has resulted in an underserved community. It's indicative that 45% of the downloads from SourceForge are consistently from non-US sources. (And we think that WE have budget problems!) So what's behind this diatribe? Well, it's mostly a consciousness raising exercise, intended to familiarize those not already aware that CAD is, arguably, THE GIS application, and to encourage those of you to devote some thought to how the skills and creativity on clear display here might be focused to meet the needs I've expanded a bit upon above. Arnie Shore Project Tickets CAD www.ticketscad.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] designing databases, organizing data formats to work with open source and proprietary GIS
All, esp Karsten, I wonder if you've given consideration to the feasibility of a solution based on web services; If feasible, this could bypass the issue you correctly raise re what data storage solution you would recommend , since the function of the service wd be to return data in one of the standard/common formats regardless of the origin. It's a non-trivial effort to design a suitable API, but such an implementation cd provide the data to suitably-connected desktop applications, as well as to conventional browsers, of course AS On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.comwrote: Karsten, On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:12 PM, karsten vennemann wrote: Hi all, in the near future I will have the opportunity to help design databases, decide on data formats (files data) for an international organization that wishes to be able to use both proprietary and open source based systems, mostly in web mapping solution but also possibly on the desktop. The task will be to design and organize the data stores in a way that both types of systems - open source (e.g. MapServer, OpenLayers) and proprietary systems (ESRI Arc Server) can use them well, and along the way to try to avoid too much data duplication (having to store data in multiple formats just to make them accessible) . This sounds to like a exiting useful, fun task, but given the limitations of both systems (regarding input data that might not work out of the box- namely file Geodatabases in open source solutions, and PostGIS data in ESRI products) might be not totally trivial ;) I was wondering if anybody has done work on this, has implemented systems facing the same issues or knows of projects or reports that have been dealing with similar issues. Also I anybody has comments about what data storage solution you would recommend and comments about the pro and cons of certain storage designs please send it to the list. Looking forward to hear what other have come up with. Thanks a lot ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Formerly Candidate's Thoughts on OSGeo
I wonder if i cd make a pitch here for consideration being paid to a not-very-exciting application of GEO-technology, Computer-Aided-Dispatch. It's a mainstay of local law enforcement agencies - and is ubiquitous in the world of local government law enforcement and emergency response as well as health service providers. It can play a role in the operations of some NGO's in providing not only for the tracking and management of response teams, but in providing situation awareness. While i'm aware of fine applications oriented to crisis response like Sahana, those I've looked at are rather ambitions in scope and oriented differently, while i do see strong interest at the local level for day-in/day-out response tracking and management. The only such beast I'm aware of that comes close, is our own, Tickets, which in its use of Gmaps fails in one measure of its Open Source.credentials. It needs modernization in that measure, at least. All of that said, I'm not sure of what I'm suggesting here, other than an awareness-raiser, re its importance to its users. (Arguably, CAD may be the earliest consumer of location-based services!) AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapQuery 0.1.0 released
Great addition indeed; thanks to all who've contributed to this release. I wonder if there's a demo site, or examples, or ??? I semi-know my way around OSM/OL, but JQuery is new, and I've really, really, really been looking for an OL wrapper like this. My plans are to integrate it with a datagrid for use in upgrading our Open Source Computer-Aided-Dispatch application, currently GMaps-based. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ICA Commission on Open Source Geospatial Technologies
I wonder if your charter includes addressing major functional/application specialties - notably emergency response and public safety. AS On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote: Thanks Dave. We want to broaden and expand on the work done by the ICA Working Group on Open Source Geospatial Technologies over the last 3 years. One of the key areas that we hope to expand is on the Education and Training in Open Source GIS globally. We will be working to promote OSGeo within and outside ICA through this. I welcome any thoughts/suggestions on how we can build up activities for this. Once I get feedback from everyone I will send the list of priority areas that we will be working on. Best wishes, Suchith -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Dave McIlhagga Sent: 11 July 2011 15:24 To: OSGeo Discussions Cc: u...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ICA Commission on Open Source Geospatial Technologies Congratulations Suchith, Would you be able to explain what types of activities the Commission would be expected to take on in this capacity? Dave Dave McIlhagga dmcilha...@dmsolutions.ca p: 613-565-5056 x15 www.dmsolutions.ca On 2011-07-09, at 10:50 AM, Suchith Anand wrote: Dear All I am happy to inform that at the ICA General Assembly on Friday, the proposed Commission on Open Source Geospatial Technologies was approved for 2011-2015. Details at http://icaci.org/documents/generalassembly2011/Agenda_15th_GA_Paris_English.pdf We are pleased with this development which will help us in scaling up our activities for the future.If you are interested to be involved in the Commission activities please contact me or Thierry Badard. We look forward to working with you all in our mission. Best Wishes, Suchith Dr Suchith Anand Centre for Geospatial Science The Nottingham Geospatial Building University of Nottingham NG7 2 TU Tel: (0)115 82 32750 http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~lgzwww/contacts/staffPages/SuchithAnand/Suchith%20Anand.htmhttp://www.nottingham.ac.uk/%7Elgzwww/contacts/staffPages/SuchithAnand/Suchith%20Anand.htm http://www.opensourcegis.org.uk/ http://ica-opensource.scg.ulaval.ca/ Mission - Building up Open Source, Open Standards, Open Data research for bridging the digital divide This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Advice - alternative to google maps v3 Javascript API????
The GMaps TOU expressly forbids vehicle-tracking, although tracking of individuals is encouraged. That individuals are one-for-one with vehicles clouds that requirement, but nonetheless the language holds. Go figger! I expect that the terms address the fact that others own the basic imagery, who sell usage rights to commercial applications, and whose market wants to be maintained. OSM/OL is the way to go, IMO, for any free/open-source application. That's what I'm doing with Tickets, our Computer-Aided-Dispatch application. ( www.ticketscad.org) AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Advice - alternative to google maps v3 Javascript API????
Not to argue - cuz it seems to be an excellent product - but notice Google Maps in that list of supported mapping service providers, whose TOU for the free package pretty much forbids vehicle tracking. AS On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: OpenGTS™ - Open GPS Tracking System http://www.opengts.org/ OpenGTS™ (Open GPS Tracking System) is the first available open source project designed specifically to provide web-based GPS tracking services for a fleet of vehicles. OpenGTS comes with support for OpenLayers/OpenStreetMap in addition to support for Google Maps, Microsoft Virtual Earth, and Mapstraction (which provides mapping support for MultiMap, Map24, MapQuest, and more). Within the OpenGTS framework, other mapping service providers can also easily be integrated. Noli ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] use of GFOSS in regional/local governments
I don't know whether you consider Computer-Aided-Dispatch (CAD) under the rubric of GIS software, but our project, Tickets CAD, certainly does integrate data with mapping/geo technology. And it's free, and Open Source predominantly, See at www.ticketscad.org. And it is being used in some public safety operations. I will have to poll our users for permission to provide site names. Please understand the political ramifications of such usage: An agency has years of unsuccessfully requesting budget $ for the purchase of a commercial CAD product, which they demonstrably need, and now - suddenly - a free one surfaces. Best is probably to do it quietly and avoid raised eyebrows and questions. (CAD may well be among the earliest examples of such integration.) AS Tickets CAD Project Lead (the adjective, not the noun!) developer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Cloud-centered activities and implementations?
Hello there. We have an Open Source Computer-Aided-Dispatch application we're making available on the cloud. While its mapping engine - for now - is one of the GYM geo-platforms, the balance is Open Source. On the cloud, it is free to public service agencies. See at www.ticketscad.org Arnie Shore TicketsCAD Project Team On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Jens Fitzke fit...@lat-lon.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Folks, I got an opportunity (well on very short notice) for a presentation on Open Source GIS stuff for the Cloud. I'd like to point to as many as possible OSGeo activities regarding this. I already found some information on Swisstopo (Mapfish stuff by Camptocamp) and of course there is the 52n WPS Cloud implementation - where 52n is not an OSGeo project and where ESRI is presenting at the same meeting and I anticipate they will elaborate on that. Any more activities or implementations? I can squeeze in everything I have until Tuesday morning (CET). Thanks, Jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1xGfMACgkQIaYc4TLqzo+ZsQCdE7ZLiu+AmNb6Ryu9KY/8s92h HxQAnApVzpSmR21+rwvyvrDfGQ+mYGvR =hxkT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
Let me add my $.02: I'd been looking for a reduced-pain method of converting to OL from the GMaps API, the target being a local/server-based OL/OSM implementation in the absence of Internet connectivity. I have the maps stored and accessible, but my GMaps function calls need translation. I suspect that it's largely one-for-one, and one of these days ... I can't believe I'm alone on needing some kind of tool for this. AS On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Stephen Woodbridge wood...@swoodbridge.comwrote: On 2/2/2011 5:14 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Below, Frank has done a great job asking the exact sort of question that new GIS users ask, and which we as an OSGeo community should address to attract new users. I think that it would be helpful to identify gaps also, for two reasons: 1. if someone is planning to migrate from say ArcMap to OSS, know the pain points and gaps will make it easy fro them to decide if their use case makes sense of not to convert now or not. Knowing what to expect up front lets them plan better and design new processes to work around those issues. 2. if we as a community have a clear idea of the gaps and pain points then it gives us a check list if high value projects that we might want to work into our projects. While I suspect most projects maintain some kind of wish list, I do not think there is a high level document like this FAQ that covers this. Maybe it is as simple as creating additional entries like How to you XXX with Open Source GIS? which identify gaps and pain points also. I think we are all about transparency, and this would help, IMHO. ATB, -Steve W What has been done so far toward building a FAQ on How to you XXX with Open Source GIS?? Frank wrote: Not only am I new to the forum, but I'm new to GIS work in general. I downloaded the Live CD and installed it on a virtual machine and it's working great. I'm trying to build a suite of GIS tools I can for the various tasks I have to do at work and it's great having so many products right in front of me. It's highly quality work and I appreciate all the hard work to pull it together. What would be really helpful to me (and possibly other new-to-GIS folks like myself) is a FAQ-type list of questions with app answers. For example: Do you want to edit shapefiles? Try xxx, yyy, zzz. Do you want to style shapefiles? Try ... Do you want to work exclusively with raster files? Do you need to work simultaneously with raster and vector files? Do you want to convert one file into one another format? Do you want to convert raster to vector? Vector to raster? Vector to another vector? etc. If there were a couple dozen questions with short answers it would really supplement the disc quite well. For instance, I'm trying to figure out how to convert a raster (binary GRID) file into a shapefile. I dink around in the various programs on the CD, but I don't know if I just can't find the convert raster to vector option in a particular app or if it isn't there at all. A short little QA text file would be nice to help at least focus my initial search a little bit better. At the least I (hopefully) would be pointed to the best choices for my purpose. Hope this makes sense! Frank ___ Live-demo mailing list live-d...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open source for local government resources
Charlie , good news re that planned article. Here's our contribution. A mainstay of most local government public safety operations is a Computer-Aided-Dispatch (AKA CAD) application, and our project has developed and made available such an animal, Tickets CAD by name. It's free, Open Source, and has been under continuing upgrade since its initial release in 2007. Its cost - again, it's free - makes it suitable for many operations that need to manage their dispatch operations but simply lack the budget. Or, some operations that find commercial, proprietary packages can't meet their operational needs, and the cost of custom tailoring is prohibitive. Open Source changes all that. I'll note only that while not suitable for every public safety site - no single CAD can be that - Tickets includes extensive facilities for tailoring to a site's particular terminology and usage requirements, as well as the record-keeping and geo-oriented capabilities a modern CAD requires. Some specifics re resources: Tickets CAD is available from SourceForge at http://openises.sourceforge.net/tickets01.html - where the verbiage needs some refreshing, although the download is current. We have a discussion group at https://groups.google.com/forum/?lnk=gcimv#!forum/open-source-cadhttps://groups.google.com/forum/?lnk=gcimv#%21forum/open-source-cad It was discussed a bit ago in http://www.emsworld.com/features/article.jsp?id=11988siteSection=7 Will be happy to expand on any of the above, of course. Arnie Shore Lead Developer On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Charlie Schweik wrote: OSGeo colleagues, A colleague of mine is publishing an article in Government Technology Magazine. At the end of the article he wants to list some good resources that local governments might turn to if they were considering open source. I'd like to build such a list. This doesn't have to be OS Geo in particular. It could be just on open source in general. If anyone has links to good content that would inform local gov decision-makers, can you send to me? I'll compile and send out what I learn or perhaps will make a wiki page for us with that content. The obvious starting place is Open Source for America: http://opensourceforamerica.org/ (mostly a Federal focus) for Defense: mil-oss.org the GOSCON conference, which we all know about: gocon.org Oregon State Open Source Lab (and particularly see their sponsor list): http://osuosl.org Redhat has a page on State Local Government use of Linux at http://www.redhat.com/solutions/government/state/ - with some links to resources and case studies Miles Fidelman, Principal Protocol Technologies Group -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. Infnord practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] offline maps
A semi-minor point, re ... Google prohibits offline caching of their data. ... : Not axactly. The major TOU restriction is that their images may be used *only* with their API. OpenLayers accommodates that restriction by wrapping OL around that API code. AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Best GIS with below listed requirements
From a lurker: What's unclear - to me, at least - is whether or not the user interface is to be via standard web browser. (An application cd be considered 'web-based' with or without such.) AS On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:36 AM, doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote: Mayank, I'm a bit confused. Do you want to run a desktop gis through a web interface, or be able to perform some GIS functions similar to a desktop gis through a web interface ? snip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] question about Tile retriever, if such a beast exists. . . .
Bobb, hiya. Now, ... grab the tiles ... from where? I have a PHP script that given corner coords and zoom range, will build a directory set of tiles DL'd from OSM. (And the Open layers script that will call it.) Dunno if this is close? AS On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bob Basques bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.uswrote: All, I have a question ... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Street address to coordinates database lookup?
No need to screen-scrape; the GMaps API provides for geocoding in both directions. Secondly, White Pages also provides an API for US telco land-line numbers. See http://developer.whitepages.com/ NZ ?? AS On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Mike Toews mwto...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, the terms you are looking for is geocoding and reverse geocoding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocoding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_geocoding But I haven't done much of this myself, so that's where I stop being useful. -Mike On 7 September 2010 15:01, Peter web...@pl.net wrote: In NZ as i guess in most places we have a national system of rural property addressing (RAPID) where the street number is based on how many meters down the road the property gate is. These are stored in Land Informations property on line database. My question is there any official or unofficial ways to access this street number to latlong coords data online? Googlemaps evidently has access to it for its searchs, failing better methods perhaps scrape their results page??? Peter ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Tickets and OpenStreetMap
Bob, as an early step into moving tickets toward OSGeo, I've gathered the OSM tile sets of an county area of somewhere around 3600 sq. mi, at zoom levels from 9 to 17, for among other reasons to see what the storage server requirements might be for a slippy map presentation with full zoom. Which turn out to be 'impressive'. But I expect there's a good bit of tweaking available that cd cut it down - if needed. My question fer yah relates to what a reasonable storage budget might be for a representative application like CAD. Any ideas? Admittedly very hypothetical, but what the heck! AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Some Longish-term Assist Needed
Hello all. I'm the lead programmer of a free, Open Source (mostly!) Computer-Aided-Dispatch application - Tickets by name - that's currently GMaps-based, which we're planning to fork to the OSGeo world of OSM/Open Layers. (Other considerations include PHP and MySQL bases as an OS-agnostic web application.) There's information re our application at http://openises.sourceforge.net/tickets01.html and also http://groups.google.com/group/open-source-cad CAD is certainly a mature technology market-wise in that there's no shortage of commercial sources of these applications. But they tend to be expensive, and there's a need given the huge number of local jurisdictions and volunteer teams supporting them. Typical user environments include local emergency management/response offices as well as ham teams playing important roles in supporting local emergency operations, special events, etc,. It's in this last consideration that the need for a 'no-internet' - i.e. local only - capability has surfaced among our users. Which, of course, dictates that we move from GMaps in favor of a completely local server-based operation for tiles as well as all software. Needless to say, other considerations also point in this direction. ^__^ A fair proportion of users to date have very limited experience in the care and feeding of a web server and application, and the availability of the WAMP/LAMP/MAMP stacks has been a god-send in that respect. I'm loathe to add any component that might add to that complexity. Frankly, I don't see a large need for cartography per se, so the use of low-footprint tile-serving PHP element makes sense to me, rather than using any of the array of servers and caching/rendering applications discussed here. It would simply present OSM tiles stored on the user's server. Note that this approach contributes directly to the goal of minimum installation complexity. What we're looking for: We're all volunteers here, and we're looking for more of the same. Specifically, someone who has some hands on skill (or interest in acquiring such) in use of Open Layers (primarily) and OSM secondarily. The work will consist of (first) developing a tool that will allow a user to identify and gather the OSM tile sets specific to his/her geography, and then the script-by-script revision of the existing GMaps functions into their OL counterparts. You'll want pretty good JS chops here. I realize that I haven't gone into this in any depth at all and that there's no shortage of questions right now. But if this piques someone's interest, please contact me offline at shoreas AT gmail DOT com. And thanks for making it down this far! AS ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source vs Closed source
Open source forces a dependence on the vendor's business plans - an issue too infrequently noted in the discussions I've seen. In our case - as the developer of an Open Source dispatch software - we had user interest in integrating our package with asterisk, an Open Source pbx system. Now with that integration working, responding units and other authorized folks can update status information (Press 1 for 'on-scene', etc. via text to speech) and will be able to get system summary information, etc. via cell phone. Maybe yr commercial vendor is willing to take that on, but maybe not if they see the market potential as too limited. A ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for PHP, OpenLayers GPS tracking software
Steve, all: I have an open source php/mysql CAD application ( http://openises.sourceforge.net/tickets01.html) that's currently GMaps based, and I plan eventually to move that to OSM/OL. I expect that the tile serving cd be provided by a PHP script of rather limited complexity. Our application does some gps tracking, with sources APRS, Google's Latitude, Instamapper, Locatea, etc. You may have other sources in mind. While you're welcome to anything we have, I'll certainly be interested in your progress. Arnie Shore Annapolis, MD Hi all, I'm looking for something like OpenGTS but written in PHP. The needs are pretty flexible. I would like the server side code to be in PHP and the mapping interface to be OpenLayers based. Does anyone know if there is an OpenSource project doing something like this? Thanks, -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] A FOSS Geo Project in India
All, I too am most interested in the project's details, as well as in the one that Louis has mentioned he's starting. Behind my interested is the F/OSS (mostly) Caomoter-Aided Dispatch application - Tickets CAD - that I'm planning to ,ove off its current GMaps base to OL/OSM. So do sharte details re the technology base, please. AS On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Louis Sayers lssay...@gmail.com wrote: Sajith, This is really cool. In particular I'm really interested in whether you are routing the vehicles based on their locations (are you performing automated dispatch at all?) and are there any navigation devices in the vehicles which you give navigation information? If so, I'd be really interested in what software you use for this - I'm interesting in investigating FOSS Geo for a project I'm starting in late April. Did you have to purchase mapping data to feed into the mapping software? Thanks, Louis On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Sajith VK sajit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, We are proud to share with you that Keltron, a PSU under government of Kerala, has completed development of an integrated, GIS based total solution for Kolkata Police. This consists of, Development of Large scale map of the area A GIS based area traffic control system Vehicle Tracking system GIS based distress call response management system etc The complete solution is developed purely on Free and Open Source solutions, including PostGIS, OpenLayers, Mapserver, GRASS Geodjango. Technology demonstration and pilot run for all modules are over and large scale deployment is going on. AFAIK, this is the biggest FOSS Geo initiative in India, and one of the major GIS project in the government sector. I hope this project will help us in bringing other projects also into the FOSS way. Thanks to OSGeo. The very existence of the Foundation helped us to convince our client that FOSS Geo tools are matured, and are actively supported. We also thank the user and developer community around the major FOSS tools, for their fast response to our questions and clarifications. Thanks Regards, Sajith VK Freedom is not Free ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps
Milo, re ... I currently have some php code that ... I'm collecting (scavenging!) PHP code taht will help me put together a rather lightweight PHP-based tile capability, without relying on any of the geo servers that are available. So if yr code might help me in this, any bits, snippets, files you might send offline to me at shoreas at gmail.com wd be greatly appreciated. Thanks, A. Shore Annapolis, MD On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:40 AM, miblon mob...@dogodigi.net wrote: Hi there folks, I am currently investigating the open source options for generating density maps. I currently have some php code that could form the bases to do this, but I would prefer to use more general available api's such as geotools if that would be possible. ... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management
WRT SMS cost, that's strictly a user issue/question of course. There are n different plans out there (where n is a large number.) And WRT yr routing data, (I note that we also provide the GMaps Street View) what do you anticipate using as the data source? Best wishes, AS On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Louis Sayers lssay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Arnie :) I'm probably thinking of a standalone mapping application on the GPS device, and for on the server as well. This is to limit GPRS usage on the GPS Device, and because I need to do a bit of processing on the server side (I'm thinking of routing a lot of vehicles). I'm interested to know what SMS services you would / do use though, and how much that costs you per SMS? ($USD$) Thanks, Louis ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management
Hello there Louis. I don't recall whether I'd responded to the July posting, so apologies here if this repeats anything I'd said in response. Our project ( http://groups.google.com/group/open-source-cad?lnk=gcimv) has a somewhat different orientation, but there's a lot of overlap WRT the requirements/goals you enumerate below. While the project proper is free and open source, and relies on PHP and MySQL as, respectively, the scripting and database engines, the mapping (today) is GMaps-based. Moveing the latter to OpenLayers and OSM is on our to-do list, for a number of operational reasons in addition to that of the gospel of a completely OS solution. By the numbers: 1. We do track GPS-equipped smart phones. 2. We do send dispatch notification via both conventional email and SMS-capable devices. 3. We do send driving directions, again by both conventional email and SMS-capable devices. 4. Driver confirmation capability currently requires a suitably-equipped device with the driver. (I.e., a browser on some platform) 5. While we do rely on humans to select the to-be dispatched units, we do show the distances from incident to unit location, the initial selection being the nearest in straight-line distance - in the interest of rapid response. Our system, Tickets CAD by name, is OS-agnostic, and largely browser-independent (we test under FF, IE, Chrome, and Safari). I believe that Tickets can run on any http server supporting the engines noted above. (We test under Apache, but it's run under IIS in the past.) It has been under active development and use for approximately two years, and is available from SourceForge. Do come back with any questions, of course. Arnie Shore Annapolis, MD On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Louis Sayers lssay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm Louis, I noticed that in July 2009 there was a discussion on fleet management software, and people were talking about possibly starting a project (see http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2009-July/thread.html ) I was wondering if this discussion had led to the formation of a project of any sort, or if other software had been identified that provided the functionality required for fleet management? I'm particularly interested in such a system to: 1. Track a fleet of vehicle locations 2. Send orders to vehicles based on their location (using shortest path type queries) 3. Enable drivers to follow guided mapping directions from the vehicles 4. Enable drivers to confirm pickup or dropoff of orders, or various other scenarios (e.g. toilet stop needed) 5. Enable full automation of the system (which vehicles get which orders are determined by an algorithm, not humans) Are there any projects / products out there that you know of that cover or are working to cover these features? -- Louis Sayers MEM Programme Department of Engineering Management University of Canterbury Private Bag 4800 Christchurch 8140, New Zealand Email: lssay...@gmail.com Phone: +64 27 460 3591 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Migrating Application from a GMaps Base
I wd like very much to hear from anyone doing any work in subject area, especially in moving to an OSM/OL base. Intent here of course is to flatten the learning curve in an Open Source application. Thanks, all. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: The Rabbit
One ... Two ... Five! On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses pfer...@osgeo.org wrote: Remember, you must count three... -- Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses Valencia (España) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Packaging MapGuide with LAMP/WAMP/XAMPP/MAMP?
Has anyone here done any work re subject integration as a single installation executable? I have a PHP/MySQL OSS Computer-Aided-Dispatch application that uses GMaps, Tickets by name, and I'm beginning to look at moving the geo element to OS. MapGuide may represent a suitable platform for that package. A fair number of users are new to the task of bringing up a web server stack, and the availability of noted packages has been a great boost in such effort. While I'll be looking at those packages to see what's involved, I thought I'd check here re any already-expended effort. Thanks, all. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Next five years
As a very interested lurker, and as one who has developed an Open Source Computer-Aided-Dispatch system that has embedded google's maps product, I can tell you that one of the deterrents I see is the relative complexity of an Open Source GIS implementation - as compared to the use of GMaps, which also, of course and notably, is free. The single source of both the tiles as well as the API is relatively straightforward for the non-cartographer novice. My user community includes a fair-sized portion who have never before implemented a web-server-based system, and our package is designed to minimize the number of elements that need separate collection and configuration. To tell them that they need a map server in addition to the stack that WAMP, XAMPP, MAMP, installs in a single executable will turn away too many candidates, IMO. In our case, the tile-serving capabilities could be met by a rather limited set of server-side functions that are OL-aware. But I haven't seen anything like that in the panoply of products that comprises the OSGeo world. Please correct me on this if such exits. (Further evidence of the importance of the ease-of-implementation issue is the proliferation of open source libraries that include capabilities taht are based on a GMaps foundation.) I will say that my users - many of whom are into emergency operations - indeed are asking for an implementation that wd allow operation while disconnected from the Internet. Impossible in a GMaps-based solution, but completely feasible in one based on OpenLayers plus locally stored OSM tiles. Users I've pointed to the available OSM sites have told me that the level of detail wd be completely satisfactory as a suitable replacement for GMaps. Which is a critically important data point, IMO. My perception of the current evolution of the world of Open Source GIS is toward greater complexity and richness. Which certainly makes for excitement and challenge for its enthusiasts; but that isn't doing much for those of us along the borders looking over the fences, and with limited hours available to hop that fence and get involved. Make entry easier than it is, folks. Please? A. Shore Annapolis, MD On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Ravi ravivundava...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, have been going through all the wishes, all the arguments about how Open Source GIS must evolve etc. ... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] fleet management
I'm quite interested. My special interest is where the 'fleet' consists of a number of emergency response vehicles, for public safety agencies whether career or volunteer. While I have an Open Source CAD package available that provides some level of such tracking via APRS and other sources, it's GMaps-based, and I do want to move it to OSM/OL. Arnie Shore Annapolis, MD ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FW: Can you help spread work to any FOSS developers you know
Boy, have you hit a hot button of mine! But I think the research could profitably veer off a bit. Like there's only one federal Department of X, but shift the focus to local government agencies and things chang radically. Like there's like 4500 counties - not to mention towns - and they're ALL DOING THE SAME KIND OF APPLICATIONS. And they're ALL HURTING FOR $$$. That shd be a prime target, but I've seen virtually zero interest in FOSS stuff so far in that world, and, in truth, there really is a support problem. Case in point is our work in developing a F/OSS Computer-Assisted Dispatch application: ( See http://groups.google.com/group/open-source-cad as well as http://sourceforge.net/projects/openises/ ) The bulk of interest in our CAD package has come largely from the HAM world, those folks oriented to supporting emergency comm's during crisis conditions. Surprisingly (to me, anyway) little from the career response shops like EMS. But wait, there's more ... ! AS On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Tyler Mitchell tylermitch...@shaw.cawrote: FYI - a FOSS-related survey for a research project. Begin forwarded message: -original message-- From: Felicia Sullivan feli...@oc-tech.org Date: Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:00 PM Subject: Can you help spread work to any FOSS developers you know Perhaps some of you can help spread the word: For wide distribution I'm a PhD student in public policy at UMass Boston doing research on what motivates members of free and open source software communities. I'm looking at ways that public policy could increase the quantity and quality of contributions to free software and open source software (defined as projects with an approved open source license - http://opensource.org/). I have a professor that says if I can provide some convincing data on how to best support free and open source software, he thinks he can get the ideas on President Obama's desk. I am conducting a survey - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SA1BorCQ_2b9E6NSE_2bNCKavw_3d_3d and I need over 500 responses by May 1st in order to answer my key research questions. One lucky respondent will have $100 donated to the FOSS project of their choice. Questions about this survey can be directed to me at felicia.sulli...@umb.edu. Thanks for your input. Acknowledgement I want to thank my FOSS developer go-to-guys -- Dan MacNeil, Peter Bull, Stéphane Alnet, and Bill de la Vega -- for providing critical feedback on this survey. -- ___ | Technology and training to advance and sustain social change | Felicia M. Sullivan Organizers’ Collaborative feli...@oc-tech.org http://organizerscollaborative.org 617.848.9513 [ voice / fax ] Gtalk/Jabber: felicia...@gmail.com AIM: forge66 Skype; forge66 Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/feliciasullivan ___ Nosi-discussion mailing list Post: nosi-discuss...@lists.mayfirst.org List info: https://lists.mayfirst.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nosi- discussion ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Transition fromGMaps to Open Source
Folks, hello, and I wonder if anyone can share experiences doing such a transition. (I've tried this question with the OpenLayers groups without response but it was suggested that this group might help.) Background: I've written a free, Open Source Computer-Aided Dispatch application targeted to the public safety community, notably ham radio groups who kick into gear during emergency/crisis conditions. It relies on GMaps API and imagery currently. But under emergency conditions which comprise the reasons for this community's existence, internet connectivity to Google may not exist of course. Accordingly, I'm planning a version of the app in which the tile sets and API are resident at a local server. Hence my strong interest in open solutions. I can't imagine I'm the only one here doing anything like that, so I'll appreciate hearing re experiences doing this, plus, especially, thoughts on the tile sets available. Thanks, all. Arnold Shore Annapolis, MD ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
