Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How big is OSGeo?
Hi Jachym, On Fri, 06. Sep 2019 at 16:21:16 +0200, Jachym Cepicky wrote: > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/All_Members > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/All_Members 1210 entries on https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:OSGeo_Member That's also where wiki's Main_Page points to. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Nordenhttps://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Juergen Fischer, Nils Kutscher HR: Amtsgericht Aurich HRB 100827 Datenschutzerklaerung: https://www.norbit.de/83/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [osgeo4w-dev] OSGeo4W missing in new website
Hi Andreas, On Mon, 22. Jan 2018 at 15:08:27 +, Müller, Andreas, Dr. phil. wrote: > What should be the content for this page? And what must be done to publish > it? (I can't access https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/) Good question - all the information is already on the trac site. So the page would probably just be a short version of that + marketing noise to fit in. Currently it's a very short version. And that's why I didn't publish it right away. To see it now, you have to sign in using your osgeo id. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website
Hi Markus, On Mon, 22. Jan 2018 at 00:00:03 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote: > Ok great! > ( Feel free to delete my attempt.) Sorry, already did. Although it's apparently not yet a community project. I'll leave jumping through the official hoops to Helmut - later on we can either publish or remove it ;) Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website
Hi Markus, On Sun, 21. Jan 2018 at 23:16:11 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote: > > So, I may ask the incubation committee for edit access to create a project > > page. > FWIW, I have created a stub page in Wordpress for OSGeo4W. But I have no > idea how to give editing rights to someone else like the OSGeo4W team > members. > Any ideas? Apparently not necessary - I have access to https://www.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ Although I think it should be a community project, so I added one at https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/ Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website
Hi Jody, On Sat, 20. Jan 2018 at 21:15:27 -0800, Jody Garnett wrote: > Helmut do you have any contact details for the OSGeo4W project? See http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections
Hi Sanghee, On Sun, 29. Oct 2017 at 23:17:53 +0900, Sanghee Shin wrote: > One thing I'd like to point out is his un-withdrwal from board election after > disclosing the results. I also think the mid-election withdrawal was a very bad move. But the un-withdrawal is only consequent. We handled the withdrawal as it never happened. Otherwise the election would have needed to be restarted without Jeff on the ballot. Luckily there's no visible impact to the vote because of this and Jeff got elected. Otherwise people who voted for him would feel that their vote would have been voided. And that would also be the case, if Jeff wouldn't accept the election now. But the missing impact of the withdrawl to election raised the question how much reach this list has - apparently a very low one. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W maintenance activities
Hi Even, On Sun, 21. Feb 2016 at 16:16:52 +0100, Even Rouault wrote: > Perhaps for example for GDAL packaging, I could try to see if there's someone > volunteering in the community to look after that one. Would be cool to have a > gdal-dev packge for example. I guess there might be some optional drivers for > which plugins aren't yet packages Maybe. ECW, MrSid, FileGDB and Oracle that need extra dependencies are there. > But looking at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/, it is not clear where (if I > were that volunteer) to start with. For example is there some VM with > compilers pre-installed and build recipes of existing packages ? No, there is none. The packages are built on the individual packager's machines. I think Frank at some point started to set a public machine up - but I'm not sure how far that got. > I guess https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/PackagingInstructions could > benefit from a step-by-step howto demonstrating howto create a new version. > Hum actually I see that there are -src.tar.bz2 packages for GDAL at > http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/x86_64/release/gdal/, but I cannot find the > equivalent for QGIS at http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/x86_64/release/qgis/ The QGIS packaging is in the qgis repository (ms-windows/osgeo4w/package(-nightly).cmd) and the grass packaging in grass' (mswindows/osgeo4w). Most of my other packages have recipes in -src.tar.bz2. Some that are not actually built but repackaged from binaries from elsewhere might not have recipes (I would have to check). > I was wondering how the automated build of QGIS was managed. There must be a > server somewhere that does the builds and uploads them ? Sure. That machine is in my office. Martin also operates a machine somewhere dealing with the GRASS nightlies. Tamas also had nightlies of mapscript (which I think have stopped for some time) - probably on the same server that is building the gisinternals binaries. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W maintenance activities
Hi Markus, On Sun, 21. Feb 2016 at 15:47:00 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote: > since I'm not familiar with compilation on Windows, could you briefly > indicate what's needed / which efforts to compile GRASS GIS with MSVC rather > than mingw given the recent efforts on the 64bit packaging? Just to better > understand... Not sure. I'd probably start with moving the build system to CMake. Like I already did for just the GRASS libraries at some point in the past (some code changes I submitted to make the libraries build with MSVC were also accepted back then). But moving all the modules there is probably a much bigger task and I'm also not sure about the acceptance of this. ;) It might also be possible to integrate msvc into configure/make (at least I think I've seen configures with MSVC stuff in them). Although you'd still need a unix like shell, make and other tools from mingw/cygwin. But I never explored that option (mainly just because the CMake approach went much better with what I needed for QGIS). But again GRASS works fine in OSGeo4W AFAICT (and as you know and that's still not much ;)) and hence I don't see the big problem of mixing MinGW and MSVC DLLs. It doesn't add much to the mess of having different MSVC compilers and runtimes around. IMHO that part of Rashad's issue is just a CMake bug and not a fundamental flaw in OSGeo4W. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W maintenance activities
s good as it currently is, but still a little bit better than much of the other stuff in OSGeo4W 32bit that is essentially orphaned, if it isn't related to QGIS (like mapserver). For that reason it also didn't find their way to 64bit. > > support myriads of different packages to support a number of different C++ > > compilers, their versions and combinations there of. IMHO that would be a > > large effort, which only marginal visible advantage to the user. > Could you get the list of all C++ packages. > Qt, OTB, OSSIM, GEOS-C++, boost, qwt, qgis ? > Current situation is any c++ library or application using Qt must be compiled > with msvc2010. Is that right? Yes, at least that's the safe choice. Not all C++ libraries depend on each other so theoretically you could add new libraries built with newer compilers - without causing harm - but you could not mix those with C++ libraries built with other compilern in applications. So using an other compiler would limit it's usability within OSGeo4W. > If so, I think removing such a restriction could be very marginal to user. Yes, that's that point. Users probably won't notice a difference at all - so why care in the first place? > BTW, it can't be so sure that none of the packagers that depends on qt would > provide a new binary for Qt5 with msvc2013 or 2015. More or less the same > story of opencv, ossim packages. That should be done in a way not interfering with existing packages. And should be discussed in osgeo4w-dev (like most of this post anyway). But for QGIS3 (maybe even 2.16; so within the next four month) I'll add Qt5 and Python3 and in the process also switch to a current compiler. And then I'll probably also use that compiler for updates of other packages - although I don't need to for those which (we) only offer a C-API. Before, a switch would just mean extra effort with little to no gain (for application users). Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W maintenance activities
Hi Rashad, On Mon, 15. Feb 2016 at 21:56:19 +0530, Rashad Kanavath wrote: > Currently, due to ABI incompatibility upgrades are stuck. For instance > ossim. BTW that's the only example there is (at least AFAIK). And that's only because OSSIM is insisting on using the GEOS C++ API that nothing else in OSGeo4W needs anymore. Everything else was migrated to the more stable C-ABIs to avoid having to support myriads of different packages to support a number of different C++ compilers, their versions and combinations there of. IMHO that would be a large effort, which only marginal visible advantage to the user. AFAICT there's not much in OSSIM depending on GEOS. So porting might not be too difficult. But the question about the possibility of porting OSSIM to the C API wasn't really answered (see https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/473). Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a Mailing List
Hi Paolo, On Thu, 04. Feb 2016 at 11:01:25 +0100, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > and s...@lists.osgeo.org but got no reply. That apparently didn't get through (yet?) I'd file a ticket (https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/) Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W orphaned?
Hi Helmut, On Sat, 14. Nov 2015 at 23:18:36 +0100, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote: > Is OSGeo4W orphaned? No. But it's mostly only getting updates on GRASS (but only 32bit) and QGIS. Dependencies are usually only updated if required. And I'm not sure if everything in OSGeo4W is ready to work with GDAL 2 (IIRC OTB doesn't support GDAL 2 yet). Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data-driven look at OSGeo.org charter activity
Hi Steven, On Sat, 01. Aug 2015 at 21:05:15 +0100, Steven Feldman wrote: Isn't this metric skewed towards those who contribute and work with code? It doesn't have any information about what was done. They might have uploaded stuff to download.osgeo.org, but maybe something completely different. Code contributions usually are done via a vcs (git, svn etc.) that is not hosted on download.osgeo.org either. I suppose the usual action on download.osgeo.org are uploads of packages, which are also only done by a small fraction of the contributors. There are many charter members who contribute in other ways As said access to download.osgeo.org is not limited to charter members - so AFAICT there's no solid information about charter activity at all in the metric. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo
Hi Bart, On Wed, 17. Sep 2014 at 09:49:51 +0200, Bart van den Eijnden wrote: can you please at least give the board a chance to form an opinion on this? If it ever gets to the point that a motion is on the table and you have not been persuaded, you can always vote -1. Did an essential piece of information not get into the open yet, did I merely miss it or just missed to see it's importance? Is it just the FOSS4G event organisation that LocationTech apparently wants to help (more?) with or is there more? What pending board decision is causing all this (rather unsettling) irritation? Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future
Hi, On Wed, 25. Sep 2013 at 06:43:21 -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote: I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for OSGeo4W. Thanks. I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion there. http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages between different packaging efforts. Probably, I just subscribed here. So I missed the initial discussion (although meanwhile read up in the archive). On Wed, 25. Sep 2013 at 09:54:11 -0400, Daniel Morissette wrote: That being said I am not convinced that a single PSC overseeing all binary distros could be very efficient. OSGeo4W, UbuntuGIS, OSGeo-Live, etc, all have some commonalities, but also some big differences in the end product due to the nature of the platform that they target. Separate PSCs/teams focused on each platform seem more natural to me, even if some devs end up participating on multiple teams, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong of course. I also expect separate projects to work better - packaging is probably more about the differences of platforms than their commonalities. But as I'm doing the debian (and in turn ubuntugis) and the OSGeo4W packaging of QGIS, I'm probably a bad example for that point. I also believe coordination could become a problem, if we try to get everything under one umbrella. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS PSC member (RM) IRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future
Hi, On Wed, 25. Sep 2013 at 15:36:17 -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote: I agree with you, Daniel and Jurgen that we would be focused on windows though I am optimistic that OSGeo4W could also be a source for those trying to make custom windows installers (ie. Portable GIS, what I used to do with FWTools and possibly even Jeff with MS4W). We already do that for QGIS - the NSIS standalone/double-click installer is created from OSGeo4W packages. So for me that already works quite well and I'm not really tempted to throw it all overboard and start from scratch. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS PSC member (RM) IRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
