Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Unable to access the geotools Maven repository

[bradh]

I believe this is tracked by https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2261#comment:6

 

From: Discuss  On Behalf Of Michele Dallachiesa
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2019 8:08 PM
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Unable to access the geotools Maven repository

 

Hi All,

 

The Maven repository at http://download.osgeo.org/webdav/geotools/ asks for 
user/password since Today and this is breaking our dependency on GeoTools. This 
repository is still referenced in the official documentation at 

 http://docs.geotools.org/latest/userguide/tutorial/quickstart/maven.html

 

Is this a server configuration issue? Am I missing something?

 

Thank You in advance,

 

Best

Michele

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

[bradh]

Indeed GDAL/OGR uses some ESRI code, example:

https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/a1df7cb9df2fe3cbcfac974b434b01ac6a1946e5/gdal/frmts/mrf/JPEG_band.cpp#L21

 

If you don’t want anyone with competing products, it’ll be a short list, and 
somewhat difficult to justify (e.g. OSGeo has lots of software that is mostly 
developed and tested against Oracle’s Java, but Oracle Spatial is an 
alternative to PostGIS). If you don’t want anyone who does patents, it’ll 
exclude most of the big IT companies.

 

Is this just an emotive response?

 

Brad

 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

[bradh]

Patrick,

 

Please don’t misunderstand – I’m happy that NASA does great things with open 
source.

 

I did have a quick look at the difference on the GeoTools GeoPackage fork, and 
it looks like there are some useful fixes in GeoTools that WWSK doesn’t have, 
and some fixes in WWSK that GeoTools doesn’t have.

 

It’s up to those that write the code to decide whether to contribute back to 
upstream projects (with all that this entails – legal issues, workload, long 
term intent), and when. I think it would be great to get the fixes and 
improvements into the upstream projects. Clearly that can’t happen without 
Contributor License Agreements in place, but after that, you can propose 
improvements and PRs as for any other contributor (just like me).

 

Brad

 

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:46 AM
To: br...@frogmouth.net
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions' 
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Brad,

 

As I tried to make clear from the beginning, we are very glad to contribute, by 
providing ^supported^ access to our experience going down the GeoPackage road. 
We just need someone else taking the lead. If our experience, on full display, 
can be of help, we are most glad to coordinate in that contribution. 

 

Everything the NASA WorldWind project has developed since 2002, has all been 
open source. Before there was a Goog Earth there was NASA WorldWind. And I 
might add, it was born of the NASA Learning Technologies program, entirely 
focused on Education. 

 

Unfortunately, we simply cannot take the lead on ^smartly^ bringing our 
GeoPackage work into GeoServer. But we are glad to coordinate with someone 
capable and interested enough to do that. AS they say, it takes a village. :)

 

-Patrick

 

From: br...@frogmouth.net   
[mailto:br...@frogmouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:53 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

OK. So the answer to my original question of " Can I ask if there are any plans 
to contribute back the forked geoserver and geotools parts?” that NASA does not 
currently plan to do so. 

 

I’m sure the GeoServer and GeoTools communities would be happy to work with you 
(see http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html  and 
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html) 
when you’re ready.

 

Thanks for your continuing support for open source.

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 9:40 AM
To: br...@frogmouth.net  
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'  >
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Brad,

 

Life is work! We have not suggested “changes. . .just be taken from WWSK.” 

 

We have done quite a bit of work to get GeoPackage working with GeoServer. I 
believe it is good work. 

 

We are glad to work with someone who would like to take the lead in benefitting 
from our experience and incorporating the best of that into GeoServer.

 

We are quite occupied and focused in other areas, all open source. And though 
we are glad to help GeoServer benefit from what we have learned, we are unable 
to take the lead in that exercise. 

 

So, if this is of interest, great! If not, that’s fine too. We are simply 
offering the opportunity for someone appropriately qualified and interested, to 
work with NASA and benefit GeoServer. 

 

-Patrick

(650) 604-5656 (o)

(650) 269-2788 (c)

 

From:   br...@frogmouth.net [ 
 mailto:br...@frogmouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:18 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see  

 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

 

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

 

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [  
mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

[bradh]

OK. So the answer to my original question of " Can I ask if there are any plans 
to contribute back the forked geoserver and geotools parts?” that NASA does not 
currently plan to do so. 

 

I’m sure the GeoServer and GeoTools communities would be happy to work with you 
(see http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html  and 
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html) 
when you’re ready.

 

Thanks for your continuing support for open source.

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 9:40 AM
To: br...@frogmouth.net
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions' 
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Brad,

 

Life is work! We have not suggested “changes. . .just be taken from WWSK.” 

 

We have done quite a bit of work to get GeoPackage working with GeoServer. I 
believe it is good work. 

 

We are glad to work with someone who would like to take the lead in benefitting 
from our experience and incorporating the best of that into GeoServer.

 

We are quite occupied and focused in other areas, all open source. And though 
we are glad to help GeoServer benefit from what we have learned, we are unable 
to take the lead in that exercise. 

 

So, if this is of interest, great! If not, that’s fine too. We are simply 
offering the opportunity for someone appropriately qualified and interested, to 
work with NASA and benefit GeoServer. 

 

-Patrick

(650) 604-5656 (o)

(650) 269-2788 (c)

 

From:   br...@frogmouth.net [ 
 mailto:br...@frogmouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:18 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see  

 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

 

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

 

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [  
mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:21 AM
To: Ian Turton <  ijtur...@gmail.com>
Cc:   br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions < 
 discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer. 

  
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

 

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort. 

 

-Patrick

 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

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Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

 

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

 

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:21 AM
To: Ian Turton 
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions 
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer. 

  
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

 

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort. 

 

-Patrick

 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

[bradh]

Hello Patrick,

Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver and 
geotools parts?

Brad


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