Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
IMO: Hi Frank, I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and coordinate system dictionaries. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MetaCRS Its good to see another project listed. I hadn't see this project referenced before on the OSGeo Web site at: - http://www.osgeo.org/ - http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html - http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/index.html I'm probably missing the obvious, but do we have a full listing of OSGeo projects that are in incubation or have graduated? Bruce Bannerman Notice: This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright.No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Hi Frank, I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and coordinate system dictionaries. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MetaCRS Its good to see another project listed. I hadn't see this project referenced before on the OSGeo Web site at: - http://www.osgeo.org/ I have added indication in the OSGeo projects box to show which projects are yet in incubation. - http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html Updated. - http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/index.html Points to http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee I'm probably missing the obvious, but do we have a full listing of OSGeo projects that are in incubation or have graduated? It is essentially the (updated) box on the main site as well as the Wiki page indicated above. I agree that a couple (?) of projects aren't listed. I have added new new section Queuing requests to the Wiki http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Queuing_requests which is possibly yet incomplete. Would leave that to the InCom chair... Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
IMO: Thanks Markus, Bruce Markus Neteler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/05/08 07:33 PM Please respond to OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org To OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org cc OSGeo-incubator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Hi Frank, I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and coordinate system dictionaries. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MetaCRS Its good to see another project listed. I hadn't see this project referenced before on the OSGeo Web site at: - http://www.osgeo.org/ I have added indication in the OSGeo projects box to show which projects are yet in incubation. - http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html Updated. - http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/index.html Points to http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee I'm probably missing the obvious, but do we have a full listing of OSGeo projects that are in incubation or have graduated? It is essentially the (updated) box on the main site as well as the Wiki page indicated above. I agree that a couple (?) of projects aren't listed. I have added new new section Queuing requests to the Wiki http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Queuing_requests which is possibly yet incomplete. Would leave that to the InCom chair... Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Notice: This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright.No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone have the list of stack diagram of OSGeo product that in Java? i still confuse and dont get the topic here ;) even I am java programmer, i am new in OSGeo:) Frans -- -- Frans Thamura Director Meruvian Redefining Civilization Indonesia Education, Consulting, Networking, Profesional Marketplace, OpenSource Development and Implementation Mobile: +62 855 7888 699 Skype: fthamura YM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GoogleTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Java Champion Oracle Ace Director JEDI Indonesia / JENI Team JUG Indonesia Founder jTechnopreneur Community Founder Blogs: http://www.jroller.com/fthamura (English) http://www.nagasakti.or.id/roller/page/fthamura (Indonesia : Motivation Blog Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/fthamura ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
Frans, Perhaps I can help you understand. As far as I know the only two official OSGeo projects for the Java programming language are gvSIG and GeoTools. OpenJUMP isn't an official OSGeo project, but I hope that it is one day. :] Even though it isn't yet a project I try to stay active in the OSGeo as an organization, and I have a small role in the programming of OpenJUMP. Landon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Thamura Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:45 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone have the list of stack diagram of OSGeo product that in Java? i still confuse and dont get the topic here ;) even I am java programmer, i am new in OSGeo:) Frans -- -- Frans Thamura Director Meruvian Redefining Civilization Indonesia Education, Consulting, Networking, Profesional Marketplace, OpenSource Development and Implementation Mobile: +62 855 7888 699 Skype: fthamura YM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GoogleTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Java Champion Oracle Ace Director JEDI Indonesia / JENI Team JUG Indonesia Founder jTechnopreneur Community Founder Blogs: http://www.jroller.com/fthamura (English) http://www.nagasakti.or.id/roller/page/fthamura (Indonesia : Motivation Blog Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/fthamura Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Hi Frank, I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and coordinate system dictionaries. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MetaCRS Its good to see another project listed. I hadn't see this project referenced before on the OSGeo Web site at: - http://www.osgeo.org/ - http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html - http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/index.html I'm probably missing the obvious, but do we have a full listing of OSGeo projects that are in incubation or have graduated? Bruce, The MetaCRS effort is not an official project of the foundation at this time. It is an attempt to confederate a few items and then bring it to the foundation for incubation. So, for now it is still essentially unofficial. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| President OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
Landon Blake wrote: Frank, I will join the MetaCRS mailing list as you suggest. You wrote: If the Java folks don't feel that a shared CRS component belong properly in GeoTools... I don't think most of us will have a problem with the library being hosted by GeoTools. It seems like the logical choice. I can visit with Jody about this some more of things materialize. I just have some advocacy work to do, right now GeoTools is often viewed as an all or nothing affair. In actual fact it is arranged into a series of layers (much like the proj, geos, gdal stack). Some of the geotools layers are handled as separate projects (like JTS) others the individual geotools modules ... you only need to include as many of these modules as you are planning to use. What I would like to do is make a few additional GeoTools downloads available for specific purposes; that is probably a good idea regardless of how this discussion plays out. Cheers, Jody ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
Frans Thamura wrote: anyone have the list of stack diagram of OSGeo product that in Java? i still confuse and dont get the topic here ;) even I am java programmer, i am new in OSGeo:) I have a stack diagram for the GeoTools project here; each box represents a GeoTools module (a seperate jar much like commons has commons-logging, commons-collection, etc...). - http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/02+Meet+the+GeoTools+Library The page has a diagram showing the layers that make up the GeoTools stack: - GeoAPI (separate project) - the formal interfaces defining the standards based data structures we are working with - gt-api - formal public API - gt-metadata - implementation of ISO 19115 constructs (used as part of referencing) - gt-referencing - projection support, different plug-ins provide support for more crs authorities (like EPSG) - JTS (seperate project) - adds geometry support (gt-referencing + JTS is what you need to make a spatial application the rest is gravy) - gt-api - formal interfaces defining the non-standards based data structures and factories we are working with - gt-coverage - raster support, different plug-ins provide support for more formats - gt-main - implementation of a lot of geoapi and gt-api - gt-data - implementation of vector data access, different plug-ins provide support for more formats - gt-jdbc - implementation of jdbc vector data access, different plug-in provide support for more formats - gt-xml - parsing support for several ogc specifications - gt-cql - implementation of a common query language parser from the ogc catalog spec - gt-render - implementation of a renderer based on the ogc sld specification Beyond that (for an architecture diagram showing how the projects fit together) you may want to look at GeoServer (implementation of many ogc web services), GeoNetwork (implementation of ogc catalog service) and a range of desktop clients from gvSig and OpenJump to uDig. Cheers, Jody ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
The Java collaboration has reared its ugly head again... Some programmers from GeoTools, OpenJUMP, degree, and Open Plans are talking about the possibility (probably remote) of a shared library for SRS or CRS definitions and transformations. The idea wouldn't be to scrap existing libraries found in GeoTools and deegree, or in other projects, but to come up with a plan for eventually merging parts of these libraries into a single low-level library that could be shared among all. I'm going to make a modest effort to keep everyone talking and to move this forward. I posted a link on the Java GIS Collaboration page of the OSGeo wiki to this page for discussion of the library: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Shared_CRS_and_CRS_Transformation_Library I thought I would post here so no Java GIS programmers are left out of the discussion if they want to participate. Landon Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
Landon Blake wrote: The Java collaboration has reared its ugly head again… Some programmers from GeoTools, OpenJUMP, degree, and Open Plans are talking about the possibility (probably remote) of a shared library for SRS or CRS definitions and transformations. The idea wouldn’t be to scrap existing libraries found in GeoTools and deegree, or in other projects, but to come up with a plan for eventually merging parts of these libraries into a single low-level library that could be shared among all. I’m going to make a modest effort to keep everyone talking and to move this forward. I posted a link on the Java GIS Collaboration page of the OSGeo wiki to this page for discussion of the library: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Shared_CRS_and_CRS_Transformation_Library I thought I would post here so no Java GIS programmers are left out of the discussion if they want to participate. Landon, I'm sure there will be some challenges in this effort. :-) I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and coordinate system dictionaries. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MetaCRS I would love to see a few Java folks join the mailing list. If nothing else, I would love to see some cooperation on shared test datasets, and coordinate system dictionaries with the Java world. If the Java folks don't feel that a shared CRS component belong properly in GeoTools, or one of the other cooperating projects, then it could also in theory be handled as part of MetaCRS, though I'm not pushing this idea too hard. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| President OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again
Frank, I will join the MetaCRS mailing list as you suggest. You wrote: If the Java folks don't feel that a shared CRS component belong properly in GeoTools... I don't think most of us will have a problem with the library being hosted by GeoTools. It seems like the logical choice. I can visit with Jody about this some more of things materialize. Thank you for the suggestions. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:16 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Cc: Martin Desruisseaux Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java Collaboration...Again Landon Blake wrote: The Java collaboration has reared its ugly head again... Some programmers from GeoTools, OpenJUMP, degree, and Open Plans are talking about the possibility (probably remote) of a shared library for SRS or CRS definitions and transformations. The idea wouldn't be to scrap existing libraries found in GeoTools and deegree, or in other projects, but to come up with a plan for eventually merging parts of these libraries into a single low-level library that could be shared among all. I'm going to make a modest effort to keep everyone talking and to move this forward. I posted a link on the Java GIS Collaboration page of the OSGeo wiki to this page for discussion of the library: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Shared_CRS_and_CRS_Transformation_Library I thought I would post here so no Java GIS programmers are left out of the discussion if they want to participate. Landon, I'm sure there will be some challenges in this effort. :-) I would also like to bring to your attention the MetaCRS project, an effort to confederate some other existing coordinate system related projects (particularly Proj4JS, CS-MAP and PROJ.4) and to work towards some shared test data and coordinate system dictionaries. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MetaCRS I would love to see a few Java folks join the mailing list. If nothing else, I would love to see some cooperation on shared test datasets, and coordinate system dictionaries with the Java world. If the Java folks don't feel that a shared CRS component belong properly in GeoTools, or one of the other cooperating projects, then it could also in theory be handled as part of MetaCRS, though I'm not pushing this idea too hard. Best regards, -- ---+ -- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| President OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
