Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Sandro Santilli]

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 02:56:16PM -0300, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> On 2017-03-21 12:19 PM, Sandro Santilli wrote:
> >
> >
> >RE: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo
> 
> Yes the FOSS4G-Boston site is in OSGeo Gogs (at
> https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/FOSS4G-Boston-2017/foss4g2017-web); I'll likely
> move that into the main FOSS4G Gogs at some point, with the other
> repositories like video etc. (https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/foss4g).   For
> those of you interested in actually seeing the list of Gogs repositories for
> FOSS4G, see this screen capture: http://pasteboard.co/OxHt5GBfG.png

Would those go under "outreach projects" section of the wiki page ?

> But really the gold standard (and still gets lots of constant love from me)
> is the FOSS4G subversion repository which has archives of FOSS4G files from
> 2017 back to 2003 (https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/).

Wow, great work !
I wonder if for archives SVN would still be more convenient as a format

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2017-03-21 12:19 PM, Sandro Santilli wrote:


I think foss4g website (or was it just video?) is also using Gogs.
Jeff ?

RE: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo


Hi Sandro!

Yes the FOSS4G-Boston site is in OSGeo Gogs (at 
https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/FOSS4G-Boston-2017/foss4g2017-web); I'll 
likely move that into the main FOSS4G Gogs at some point, with the other 
repositories like video etc. (https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/foss4g).   For 
those of you interested in actually seeing the list of Gogs repositories 
for FOSS4G, see this screen capture: http://pasteboard.co/OxHt5GBfG.png


But really the gold standard (and still gets lots of constant love from 
me) is the FOSS4G subversion repository which has archives of FOSS4G 
files from 2017 back to 2003 (https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/).  I 
recently archived some more documents from Nottingham, and found some 
missing past proposals.  I do always ask organizing committees to 
archive, but must ignore me, so I take the time to do that.  I'm used to 
doing it by now ha.   I consider that and the FOSS4G lessons learned 
pages a priority.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

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Added a line for pgRouting

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Cameron Shorter 
wrote:

> +1 Greatly insightful slide deck from Maxi about Open principles in
> general and OSGeo in particular. Thanks for sharing.
>
> Cameron
>
> On 22/3/17 4:02 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
> That is a *great* talk, and shows a lot of areas where we can improve.
>
> There has been a consistent call for "incubation" to continue to hold
> projects accountable to OSGeo standards. I have resisted these calls as I
> view incubation as an outreach activity - part of our mission to promote
> open/transparent software development.
>
> Still that is great to have an external review; is that review public?
>
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>
> On 21 March 2017 at 01:18, Venkatesh Raghavan <
> ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>> Maxi also made an excelling presentation on related topic
>> at FOSS4G-Asia 2017. The presentation is available at
>>
>> http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/massimiliano-cannata-keyno
>> te-foss4gasia-2017
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Venka
>>
>> On 2017/03/20 22:08, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>
>>> Actually Maxi and I did a recent thorough research into OSGeo project
>>> use of infrastructure, by each project, and it was published as a paper (or
>>> soon to be).  In the short term I know Maxi has submitted it as a talk for
>>> FOSS4G-Europe.  It's good to take a step back and review old processes.
>>> Actually we hope that that was a start of a regular OSGeo project 'health
>>> checkup', which obviously is very needed.  For example, it was quite
>>> shocking how many current OSGeo projects are functioning without any
>>> regular Project Steering Committee meetings, or even a visible Project
>>> Steering Committee.  I am sure Maxi will be sharing those results at
>>> FOSS4G-E.
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Cameron Shorter]

+1 Greatly insightful slide deck from Maxi about Open principles in 
general and OSGeo in particular. Thanks for sharing.


Cameron


On 22/3/17 4:02 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

That is a *great* talk, and shows a lot of areas where we can improve.

There has been a consistent call for "incubation" to continue to hold 
projects accountable to OSGeo standards. I have resisted these calls 
as I view incubation as an outreach activity - part of our mission to 
promote open/transparent software development.


Still that is great to have an external review; is that review public?

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On 21 March 2017 at 01:18, Venkatesh Raghavan 
> 
wrote:


Maxi also made an excelling presentation on related topic
at FOSS4G-Asia 2017. The presentation is available at


http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/massimiliano-cannata-keynote-foss4gasia-2017



Best

Venka

On 2017/03/20 22:08, Jeff McKenna wrote:

Actually Maxi and I did a recent thorough research into OSGeo
project use of infrastructure, by each project, and it was
published as a paper (or soon to be).  In the short term I
know Maxi has submitted it as a talk for FOSS4G-Europe.  It's
good to take a step back and review old processes.  Actually
we hope that that was a start of a regular OSGeo project
'health checkup', which obviously is very needed.  For
example, it was quite shocking how many current OSGeo projects
are functioning without any regular Project Steering Committee
meetings, or even a visible Project Steering Committee.  I am
sure Maxi will be sharing those results at FOSS4G-E.

-jeff


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Jody Garnett]

That is a *great* talk, and shows a lot of areas where we can improve.

There has been a consistent call for "incubation" to continue to hold
projects accountable to OSGeo standards. I have resisted these calls as I
view incubation as an outreach activity - part of our mission to promote
open/transparent software development.

Still that is great to have an external review; is that review public?

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On 21 March 2017 at 01:18, Venkatesh Raghavan  wrote:

> Maxi also made an excelling presentation on related topic
> at FOSS4G-Asia 2017. The presentation is available at
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/massimiliano-cannata-keyno
> te-foss4gasia-2017
>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
> On 2017/03/20 22:08, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>
>> Actually Maxi and I did a recent thorough research into OSGeo project use
>> of infrastructure, by each project, and it was published as a paper (or
>> soon to be).  In the short term I know Maxi has submitted it as a talk for
>> FOSS4G-Europe.  It's good to take a step back and review old processes.
>> Actually we hope that that was a start of a regular OSGeo project 'health
>> checkup', which obviously is very needed.  For example, it was quite
>> shocking how many current OSGeo projects are functioning without any
>> regular Project Steering Committee meetings, or even a visible Project
>> Steering Committee.  I am sure Maxi will be sharing those results at
>> FOSS4G-E.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Sandro Santilli]

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 09:56:49PM +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> On 20 March 2017 at 21:02, Cameron Shorter  wrote:
> > I've added a line for OSGeo-Live
> 
> FYI, I only walked through the ones in the "OSGeo Projects" frame at 
> osgeo.org.

I think foss4g website (or was it just video?) is also using Gogs.
Jeff ?

RE: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Venkatesh Raghavan]

Maxi also made an excelling presentation on related topic
at FOSS4G-Asia 2017. The presentation is available at

http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/massimiliano-cannata-keynote-foss4gasia-2017

Best

Venka

On 2017/03/20 22:08, Jeff McKenna wrote:
Actually Maxi and I did a recent thorough research into OSGeo project 
use of infrastructure, by each project, and it was published as a 
paper (or soon to be).  In the short term I know Maxi has submitted it 
as a talk for FOSS4G-Europe.  It's good to take a step back and review 
old processes.  Actually we hope that that was a start of a regular 
OSGeo project 'health checkup', which obviously is very needed.  For 
example, it was quite shocking how many current OSGeo projects are 
functioning without any regular Project Steering Committee meetings, 
or even a visible Project Steering Committee.  I am sure Maxi will be 
sharing those results at FOSS4G-E.


-jeff



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Mateusz Loskot]

On 20 March 2017 at 21:02, Cameron Shorter  wrote:
> I've added a line for OSGeo-Live

FYI, I only walked through the ones in the "OSGeo Projects" frame at osgeo.org.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Cameron Shorter]

I've added a line for OSGeo-Live

Cameron


On 20/3/17 11:15 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
Thanks. Any idea how much strain the maven repo puts on OSGeo 
infrastructure?
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 4:57 PM Mateusz Loskot > wrote:


On 20 March 2017 at 00:46, Jody Garnett > wrote:
> Geotools SVN has been migrated. The repo is just for historical
record.

Fixed. Thanks Jody.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Jeff McKenna]

Actually Maxi and I did a recent thorough research into OSGeo project 
use of infrastructure, by each project, and it was published as a paper 
(or soon to be).  In the short term I know Maxi has submitted it as a 
talk for FOSS4G-Europe.  It's good to take a step back and review old 
processes.  Actually we hope that that was a start of a regular OSGeo 
project 'health checkup', which obviously is very needed.  For example, 
it was quite shocking how many current OSGeo projects are functioning 
without any regular Project Steering Committee meetings, or even a 
visible Project Steering Committee.  I am sure Maxi will be sharing 
those results at FOSS4G-E.


-jeff

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On 2017-03-19 7:31 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

Hi,

I've gathered some data about the current use of OSGeo infrastructure
by OSGeo projects, versus use of external services:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo

I'd like to ask members of individual projects to have a look and
apply corrections and updates wherever necessary.

Thanks all in advance!

Best regards,




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[Jody Garnett]

Thanks. Any idea how much strain the maven repo puts on OSGeo
infrastructure?
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 4:57 PM Mateusz Loskot  wrote:

> On 20 March 2017 at 00:46, Jody Garnett  wrote:
> > Geotools SVN has been migrated. The repo is just for historical record.
>
> Fixed. Thanks Jody.
>
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[Mateusz Loskot]

On 20 March 2017 at 00:46, Jody Garnett  wrote:
> Geotools SVN has been migrated. The repo is just for historical record.

Fixed. Thanks Jody.

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[Jody Garnett]

Geotools SVN has been migrated. The repo is just for historical record.

The geotools downloads host a maven repository to which release are
published.
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 4:39 PM Mateusz Loskot  wrote:

> On 20 March 2017 at 00:13, Tom Kralidis  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Mateusz: great idea and thanks for leading off.
> >
> > I've made slight updates for pycsw. Should we
> > have a column for use of servers like AdhocVM[1] ?
>
> Tom, good idea.
>
> I briefely contemplated CI column with list of CI services used,
> but eventually ended up with CI tag in GitHub column.
> In majority if not all cases, if a project uses Travis CI/AppVeyor
> it does it via GitHub.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

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On 20 March 2017 at 00:13, Tom Kralidis  wrote:
>
> Thanks Mateusz: great idea and thanks for leading off.
>
> I've made slight updates for pycsw. Should we
> have a column for use of servers like AdhocVM[1] ?

Tom, good idea.

I briefely contemplated CI column with list of CI services used,
but eventually ended up with CI tag in GitHub column.
In majority if not all cases, if a project uses Travis CI/AppVeyor
it does it via GitHub.

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[Tom Kralidis]

Thanks Mateusz: great idea and thanks for leading off.

I've made slight updates for pycsw. Should we
have a column for use of servers like AdhocVM[1] ?

..Tom

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/AdhocVM



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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:31:11 +0100
From: Mateusz Loskot <mate...@loskot.net>
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for
update

Hi,

I've gathered some data about the current use of OSGeo infrastructure
by OSGeo projects, versus use of external services:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo

I'd like to ask members of individual projects to have a look and
apply corrections and updates wherever necessary.

Thanks all in advance!

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

[Mateusz Loskot]

Hi,

I've gathered some data about the current use of OSGeo infrastructure
by OSGeo projects, versus use of external services:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo

I'd like to ask members of individual projects to have a look and
apply corrections and updates wherever necessary.

Thanks all in advance!

Best regards,
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