Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

iginal Message- From: Discuss On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM To: Even Rouault Cc: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault wrote: for my understanding, and hopefully he

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

f - MIL-HDBK-857A and MIL-DTL-89045/A > >>>>> > >>>>> If you're prepared to deal with converting CGM to whatever that font > thing is, you can download the definitions from the NGA GWG Portrayal > Working Group at https://gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (ex

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

l2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as a font though Brad -Original Message- From: Discuss On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM To: Even Rouault Cc: OSGeo Discussions

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

//gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (expect a cert >> >> warning) >> >> >> >> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things >> >> might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated >> >> as a font tho

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

; > >> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things > might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as > a font though > >> > >> Brad > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Discuss On Behalf

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

nt >> though >> >> Brad >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Discuss On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM >> To: Even Rouault >> Cc: OSGeo Discussions >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed al

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

I’d suggest treating -2525 as a completely separate problem. It’s a huge “can of worms” that could derail the rest of it. Brad From: Alexandre Neto Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2020 1:46 AM To: Jody Garnett Cc: Brad Hards ; OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

>> a font though >> >> Brad >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Discuss On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM >> To: Even Rouault >> Cc: OSGeo Discussions >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed al

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

all Dawson > Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM > To: Even Rouault > Cc: OSGeo Discussions > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts > > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault > wrote: > > > for my understanding, and hop

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as a font though Brad -Original Message- From: Discuss On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM To: Even Rouault Cc: OSGeo Discussions S

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

Note this is quite the legal trap, many governments have contributed to these fonts, and then are not in a position to use the result with open source software such as GeoServer (even though we have TTF symbol support). Specifically for the US fonts above it may be possible to source the original

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault wrote: > for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue is that > you have a style definition where there are tuples of (font_identifier, > symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of layers with point > geometries, rig

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

Nyall, for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue is that you have a style definition where there are tuples of (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of layers with point geometries, right ? Or possibly some dataset layers whose fields

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

I think that is a good idea, and something our marketing committee could very carefully do. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:39 PM Nyall Dawson wrote: > Hi list! > > One common road block which I find I am encountering when > organisations are wanting to transition to open source software is > that the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Workshop Tickets @ FOSS4G

Hi Jody, Thanks for the background too - I think there needs to be more coordination between the various OSGeo projects - especially considering the enhanced touch that we've been working on regarding accommodation - I think this can be something for future conferences to consider, especially if f

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Workshop Tickets @ FOSS4G

Thanks for the background Mark. Keep in mind that that OSGeo projects and committees also have a budget, many indicated that they would assist their members with foss4g travel and/or accommodation. For context OSGeo does ask that each project officer attend the AGM (or send a community member to s

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Workshop Tickets @ FOSS4G

Dear Mark, Your effort for this FOSS4G is impressive! In my opinion, changing previous rules and experimenting with different approaches is a good thing. If we see that the outcome is not what we expected, we can always rollback for following years. But what if the outcome is better than ever? Wh

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free course about Geographic Information Systems applied to Municipality Management

Great! The more reuse we can promote, the better. When using the courses in a educational environment, it would be good to evaluate the material and leave suggestions for improvement. The Idea of GiCases is also the idea of *collaborative learning* and *collaborative creation*. Values which are al

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free course about Geographic Information Systems applied to Municipality Management

Thank you Dirk! That's good news. We think that it will be very useful for them. We plan to publish one video per week during December excepting the last week, and then two videos per week. And the course is extendable, if there's a new feature that we consider important to add we would re

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free course about Geographic Information Systems applied to Municipality Management

Mario, This initiative looks great! I will certainly take a more closer look at it. I am currently involved in a Erasmus+ Programme European Project about Case bases learning [1]. Together with the University of Leuven (KUL [2]), I am also involved in *cocreating* some free courses for implement

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America

de Geomática > Dirección Nacional de Topografía > Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas > URUGUAY > De: Discuss en nombre de SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA > > Enviado: viernes, 15 de julio de 2016 12:27 > Para: Suchith Anand; geofor...@lists.osgeo.org; discuss@lists.osgeo.org >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America

Enviado: viernes, 15 de julio de 2016 12:27 Para: Suchith Anand; geofor...@lists.osgeo.org; discuss@lists.osgeo.org Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America I guess I will be able. But I'll need more details from the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America

I guess I will be able. But I'll need more details from the OSGeo Marketing Committee... Sergio Acosta y Lara Departamento de Geomática Dirección Nacional de Topografía Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas URUGUAY De: Suchith Anand Enviado: martes, 12 de ju

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America

Hi Sergio and Suchith, Tonnes of thanks for sharing, I have been thinking along the same avenue in view of one day having a FOSS4G for the Pacific Islands Region. It is still work in progress and we persevere to bring more of my fellow Pacific Islanders to join us in "Geo for All". Likewise, on

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America

Hi Sergio, Thank you for the updates on the Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America and great to hear that you will be presenting Geo4All. It is a great opportunity to spread Geo4All ideas to more universities and educational institutes in the regio

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] free software for transport planning

Thank you so much for this list. I am part of the Middle Atlantic Geospatial Transportation User Group. We are basically located in the New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland and Delaware region.http://magtug.wordpress.comI have a question:1) Is there anyone in our Middle Atlantic area that would

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] free software for transport planning

Ricardo, It's good to see that some public institutions are doing they homework well :-) Alexandre Neto Em 19/09/2014 15:52, "Ricardo Pinho" escreveu: > Hi Robert, > Thank you for those references. > As a Metropolitan Transport Authority we need to create macro public > transport models to sim

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] free software for transport planning

Hi Robert, Thank you for those references. As a Metropolitan Transport Authority we need to create macro public transport models to simulate, analyse and plan the transport network and services provided to the city population. PTV and other providers, offer very efficient software tools to help o

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] free software for transport planning

Ricardo, The tools of which I'm aware are focused on transit planning (rather than more transportation in general) and include: * World Bank Open Transit Indicators - https://github.com/WorldBank-Transport/open-transit-indicators - this is a project Azavea is developing under contract with the W

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free GIS Day November 6, 2014 OSGéo - IGEAT (ULB) – Brussels (Belgium)

Hello Dirk, Thanks for the feedback. A presentation about OSGeo is indeed planned in the morning session. Cheers, Maë//e 2014-09-13 11:18 GMT+02:00 Dirk Frigne : > Thank you for your information. > Great to promote Open Source GIS tools, software and Data. > > What I miss in the program is a pre

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free GIS Day November 6, 2014 OSGéo - IGEAT (ULB) – Brussels (Belgium)

Thank you for your information. Great to promote Open Source GIS tools, software and Data. What I miss in the program is a presentation about OSGeo. OSGeo-fr should be able to give such a presentation. In 15 minutes you can already give a good overview on the organisation and the way it is active

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free GIS Day November 6, 2014 OSGéo - IGEAT (ULB) – Brussels (Belgium)

Hi Dirk, our event details are below : BE-OPENGIS-FR November 6, 2014 Université Libre de Bruxelles The Institute of Environmental Management and Spatial Planning (IGEAT) of the Free University of Brussels (ULB) and OSGeo-fr are organising the BE-OpenGIS-FR on November 6, 2014 at the ULB. This d

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free GIS Day November 6, 2014 OSGéo - IGEAT (ULB) ­ Brussels (Belgium)

Johan, Dirk, Please keep us (the dutch local chapter) informed on yours ideas to form a Belgian ocal chapter. As you know, we started the dutch local chapter primarily as a language based chapter (thus covering both The Netherlands and the Flemish Region). I understand the idea to form a Belgi

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free GIS Day November 6, 2014 OSGéo - IGEAT (ULB) – Brussels (Belgium)

Thank you very much for your marks of interest about our conference. Unfortunately, at this time, the schedule is already full and we don't have available rooms for organizing parallel sessions. However, if there is any change we'll let you know. Anyway, you are welcome to attend our conference (

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free GIS Day November 6, 2014 OSGéo - IGEAT (ULB) – Brussels (Belgium)

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Dirk Frigne wrote: > Hi Maelle, > > Using the name "FOSS4G-Be" is no problem for activities related with the > promotion and use of FOSS4G software. > In 2013 I organized the OSGeoGhent event [1] and wanted to organize a second > version in May this year. > > The Gl

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free GIS Day November 6, 2014 OSGéo - IGEAT (ULB) – Brussels (Belgium)

Hi Maelle, Using the name "FOSS4G-Be" is no problem for activities related with the promotion and use of FOSS4G software. In 2013 I organized the OSGeoGhent event [1] and wanted to organize a second version in May this year. The Global FOSS4G conference will start next week in Portland [2], so if

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 08/03/2013 16:16, Steven Feldman ha scritto: > I've been following the conversation that was prompted by Paolo's > comment about FOSS4G pricing > We are trying to balance the need to have an economically viable > conference that covers costs and r

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events

Hi I've been following the conversation that was prompted by Paolo's comment about FOSS4G pricing "On the other hand, I still have problems with annual FOSS4G, which has a cost that scares away many top developers. IMHO (sorry to insist, I raised this point earlier) the meeting should be free

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

> I think we are mixing two issues here: > * 0 fees for developers - as I pointed out, this is not a cost for the > conference, but rather an advantage (participants are more likely to > come if the know most top developers are present); my suggestion is > that this should become a requirement from

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 07/03/2013 12:03, Barry Rowlingson ha scritto: > Given the recent strategic message, I don't think its in the local > FOSS4G committee's role to provide bursaries beyond the > well-established student discount - certainly not for 2013 > Nottingha

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> So how many lower-rate slots would that require? We've got 17 >> official projects and 7 incubating projects according to the home >> page summary. With this year's rates (full 350 £, student 240 £) >> and only 2 developers per project it

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 07/03/2013 10:23, Stefano Costa ha scritto: > So how many lower-rate slots would that require? We've got 17 > official projects and 7 incubating projects according to the home > page summary. With this year's rates (full 350 £, student 240 £) > and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

Scrive Paolo Cavallini : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Il 05/03/2013 00:51, Frank Warmerdam ha scritto: > > > Possibly a scheme were each formal OSGeo project could nominate two > > or three contributors to attend at the student rate? > > sounds good. > thanks. So how many

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 05/03/2013 00:51, Frank Warmerdam ha scritto: > Possibly a scheme were each formal OSGeo project could nominate two > or three contributors to attend at the student rate? sounds good. thanks. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

Frank, Dne 5.3.2013 00:51, Frank Warmerdam napsal(a): > Possibly a scheme were each formal OSGeo project could nominate two or > three contributors to attend at the student rate? > > Note that I'm not suggesting it would necessarily apply this year but if we > can come up with a palatable schem

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

Those are questions, which I'm aware of as well J Dne 5.3.2013 00:15, Bruce Bannerman napsal(a): > But who would > select these people? What would be the eligibility criteria? What process > would be used that would allow an open and auditable selection of > recipients? How would other hard worki

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events

Frank, I'm not involved in this year's conference, so I'll defer to the FOSS4G-2013 LOC to answer this question. Bruce On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > Jachym / Bruce / Paolo, > > > > Bruce - in the past workshop presenters would get free entrance for the > conferen

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

Jachym / Bruce / Paolo, There is certainly a difference in the pricing between FOSS4G and some of the smaller scrappier conferences but by comparison to other professional conferences it is certainly reasonably priced. Bruce - in the past workshop presenters would get free entrance for the confer

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

To add to what Bruce just wrote, unless you happen to live in the region where FOSS4G is being held a given year, then the cost of traveling to FOSS4G (flight/train, hotel, meals, etc.) is much more significant than the registration cost and very likely a bigger show stopper for those who canno

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free

On Wed, March 7, 2007 15:37, Josef Assad wrote: > Hello OSGeo community, > > I am a little new in here, so a quick two line introduction; Ive been > involved with free software for something like 8 years now in almost > all capacities except programming it (much to the fortune of code > quality ev

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Hello OSGeo community, I am a little new in here, so a quick two line introduction; Ive been involved with free software for something like 8 years now in almost all capacities except programming it (much to the fortune of code quality everywhere). Advocacy, program management, licensing, communit

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

This thread has really mutated but fwiw, here goes: On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 09:47 -0700, Zachary L. Stauber wrote: > Tim Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Open source doesn't mean closed mind at all. If you are referring to > > the habit of FOSS purists being pedantic about what is FOSS and w

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Tim Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Open source doesn't mean closed mind at all. If you are referring to > the habit of FOSS purists being pedantic about what is FOSS and what is > not, then I think that's a good thing. It's not uncommon for people > outside the FOSS development world to thin

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 00:43 -0700, Zachary L. Stauber wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > ross s wrote: > > Just to add a bit more spice to the discussion. I think the root > > problem here is a definition amoung open source purists. Jeff Thurston > > has added some inte

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Monday 05 March 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now class! Please pay attention!! > > According to the Free Software Foundation > > Free software is software that comes with permission for anyone to use, > copy, and distribute, either verbatim or with modifications, either > gratis or for a fee

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1; please do not include non-libre software in the conference. pc Markus Neteler ha scritto: > Then let's have a "free as in beer" slot for such software. > It would be harmful to mix free software (as in liberty) with > gratis (or whatever) software

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ross s wrote: > Just to add a bit more spice to the discussion. I think the root > problem here is a definition amoung open source purists. Jeff Thurston > has added some interesting points to his blog (below). > I think the root of the problem is

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 13:26 -0500, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > ross s wrote: > > Just to add a bit more spice to the discussion. I think the root > > problem here is a definition amoung open source purists. Jeff Thurston > > has added some interesting points to his blog (below). > > > > --- > > S

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

> PS. What is the "correct" term for software that doesn't cost anything but > is closed (like MultiSpec and 3DEM)? Freeware? gratisware nick Opinions contained in this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mon, March 5, 2007 20:33, Ned Horning wrote: > On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:49, Allan Doyle wrote: > >> There are Open Source licenses that do not require all of freedoms of >> Free Software, particularly the requirement to deliver source code if >> you also deliver modifications. That effectively let

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mar 5, 2007, at 14:27, Paul Ramsey wrote: Au contraire, you'll find the GPL and LGPL duly listed as OSI- approved licenses here: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ While the "free" folks might not like the flexibility displayed by the "open source" movement, they can be fully subsumed fro

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Ned Horning wrote: > On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:26, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > >> The lack of understanding of what we mean by free just demonstrates the >> need for additional outreach by OSGeo. > > I am still trying to get my head around the "free and open source" concept. > I've been through the Fre

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:49, Allan Doyle wrote: > There are Open Source licenses that do not require all of freedoms of > Free Software, particularly the requirement to deliver source code if > you also deliver modifications. That effectively lets people close > off improvements they have made to for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Au contraire, you'll find the GPL and LGPL duly listed as OSI-approved licenses here: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ While the "free" folks might not like the flexibility displayed by the "open source" movement, they can be fully subsumed from a licensing point-of-view, if not an advocacy

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Now class! Please pay attention!! According to the Free Software Foundation Free software is software that comes with permission for anyone to use, copy, and distribute, either verbatim or with modifications, either gratis or for a fee. In particular, this means that source code must be avail

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:49, Ned Horning wrote: On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:26, Frank Warmerdam wrote: The lack of understanding of what we mean by free just demonstrates the need for additional outreach by OSGeo. I am still trying to get my head around the "free and open source" concept. I've b

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:26, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > The lack of understanding of what we mean by free just demonstrates the > need for additional outreach by OSGeo. I am still trying to get my head around the "free and open source" concept. I've been through the Free Software Foundation site and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mon, March 5, 2007 19:26, Allan Doyle wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:26, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > >> ross s wrote: >>> Just to add a bit more spice to the discussion. I think the root >>> problem here is a definition amoung open source purists. Jeff >>> Thurston has added some interesting p

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On Mar 5, 2007, at 13:26, Frank Warmerdam wrote: ross s wrote: Just to add a bit more spice to the discussion. I think the root problem here is a definition amoung open source purists. Jeff Thurston has added some interesting points to his blog (below). --- So? is your ?free? more pure t

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

ross s wrote: Just to add a bit more spice to the discussion. I think the root problem here is a definition amoung open source purists. Jeff Thurston has added some interesting points to his blog (below). --- So? is your ?free? more pure than my ?free?? Is there a ?free-o-meter? or somethin

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

open to a box? Isn�t the objective to formulate, develop and create new approaches and strategies?     - Original Message - From: Arnulf Christl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, March 5, 2007 10:51 am Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free" > Zachary L. Stauber wrote: >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Zachary L. Stauber wrote: If I'm not mistaken at the last FOSS4G conference OracleXE already did have a demonstration and it wasn't nearly as integrated with open source software as the requirements we're now talking about to be part of FOSS4G. I didn't attend it, but I did talk to some of the p

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

If I'm not mistaken at the last FOSS4G conference OracleXE already did have a demonstration and it wasn't nearly as integrated with open source software as the requirements we're now talking about to be part of FOSS4G. I didn't attend it, but I did talk to some of the presenters afterwards for som

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

I just to clarify: A workshop about OracleXE alone doesn't belong to a Free and Open Source Software for Geoinformatics conference. A workshop about how OracleXE uses or integrates open source geospatial software would be acceptable to me. -Perry Zachary L. Stauber wrote: -BEGIN PGP S

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I agree with Perry. There are a lot of free/lite/express versions of GIS software that are perfectly usable for small businesses or the non-profit "neo-cartographer" such as Tatuk Viewer, ArcExplorer, OracleXE, and GoogleEarth. Because they are usefu

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

This is just one voice mumbling in the crowd. But, this one voice views Oracle's so-called "free" database Express Edition to be merely a 'loss leader' distributed by Oracle with a few goals in mind. One goal that this software achives, is that it allows folks who are well versed in oracle databa

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

ehalf Of Paul Ramsey Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:23 To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free" Attendees are not just developers of free software, there are lots of people just looking to solve problems in a low-cost way. Some of those low cost solutions are free, other

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

2007/3/2, Ned Horning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Paul Ramsey wrote: > > The term "free" as used by this community is jargon > , plain and simple, completely > transparent to those in-the-know, opaque to outsiders. The workshop > submission is just a clear example of

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Ramsey Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:23 To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free" Attendees are not just developers of free software, there are lots of people just looking to solve problems in a low-cost way. Some of those low cost solu

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

On 2-Mar-07, at 12:12 PM, Ned Horning wrote: Would dropping "Free" and just using "Open Source" in the future make it transparent to everyone? Hi Ned, I think that's the crux of it (aside from current workshop question). The OSGeo conference committee had a debate about this and voted to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Tyler Mitchell Executive Director Open Source Geospatial Foundation [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: +1-250-277-1621 M: +1-250-303-1831 On 2-Mar-07, at 12:12 PM, Ned Horning wrote: Would dropping "Free" and just using "Open Source" in the future make it transparent to everyone? Hi Ned, I think that's

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Question Paul? Have they talked to you about sponsoring the conference? Jody Thinking - Oracle is apparently trying to learn how to play nice with open source. So far that consists of buying companies - but that is a start. May be worth while to just send them my way for the demo pit (they ca

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Aaron Racicot wrote: I am just in favor of Paul supplying free beer... Just because you can freely imbibe it, and pass it on in modified form, doesn't mean it will be free-as-in-beer. :) -- Paul Ramsey Refractions Research http://www.refractions.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 250-3

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

Ned Horning wrote: Paul Ramsey wrote: The term "free" as used by this community is jargon , plain and simple, completely transparent to those in-the-know, opaque to outsiders. The workshop submission is just a clear example of that. Would dropping "Free" an

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free"

2007/3/2, Markus Neteler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Then let's have a "free as in beer" slot for such software. It would be harmful to mix free software (as in liberty) with gratis (or whatever) software in the same slot. At least the proposal does not quite match the OSGeo aims. ... Since FOSS4G2007

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Or just say "OSI-compliant" -- since that's what OSGeo's charter says..? -mpg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ned Horning > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:12 PM > To: 'OSGeo Discussio

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Behalf Of Paul Ramsey Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:51 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free" Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Paul, as for RMS, while I do not agree all the time with him, we need > to have the speech/beer issue quite clear at all times. And we

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Paul Ramsey wrote: > > The term "free" as used by this community is jargon > , plain and simple, completely > transparent to those in-the-know, opaque to outsiders. The workshop > submission is just a clear example of that. > Would dropping "Free" and just usi

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Thinking - Oracle is apparently trying to learn how to play nice with open source. So far that consists of buying companies - but that is a start. May be worth while to just send them my way for the demo pit (they can answer these kind of questions in person after all); the more exposure both

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o Marcondes > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:04 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: > Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Free" > > 2007/3/2, Paul Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Developing GeoSpatial applications for Oracle XE (the free Express >> Edition of the Oracle da

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Paulo Marcondes wrote: Paul, as for RMS, while I do not agree all the time with him, we need to have the speech/beer issue quite clear at all times. And we have to take a stand (at least on a personal basis - mine is speech) The term "free" as used by this community is jargon

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That's a different thing. The workshop is *showcasing* Oracle Mapviewer. The workshops you mention aren't showcasing Windows XP, they merely depend on it. Best regards, Bart Dave Patton schreef: Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) wrote: But the workshop includes XE as well as Mapviewer. So the

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tter be given to someone else. Shouldn't be the only consideration, mind you, but a good one nonetheless. -mpg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paulo Marcondes > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:37 AM > To: OSGe

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Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) wrote: But the workshop includes XE as well as Mapviewer. So the latter will always cost money for production purposes if I understand all this stuff correctly. That will be a good enough reason to reject the workshop IMHO, otherwise you trick attendees into thin

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But the workshop includes XE as well as Mapviewer. So the latter will always cost money for production purposes if I understand all this stuff correctly. That will be a good enough reason to reject the workshop IMHO, otherwise you trick attendees into thinking that they can build free product

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2007/3/2, Allan Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There are plenty of places Oracle can demo or hold a workshop. There are not so many places developers of Free and Open Source Software can do the same. Let the non-free companies come and learn about FOSS. I'm not sure we have to teach the FOSS develop

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XE goes beyond that and is actually fully free-as-in-beer for deployment as well as development, as you have pointed out in your previous examinations. I am merely expressing our frustrations at having accidentally solicited a talk about free software, when what we really wanted were talks abo

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As Jody points out, isn't the OTN Development License only useful for creating prototypes and doing development? "We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use the programs only for the purpose of developing a single prototype of your application, and not for any other pu

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Paulo Marcondes wrote: On another related point, I am always careful with corporate workshops/lectures/whatever, as they too often tend to be more of the advertising than the technical type. There is going to be a "demo pit" for such things - and hopefully a wide range of products from all walks

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I guess the answer to my question is in their FAQ: 10. Is it possible to deploy MapViewer on a 3rd party application server such as JBoss? This is not supported or recommended. However users have successfully deployed the mapviewer.ear file downloaded from OTN into a 3rd party J2EE compliant co

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