Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread erland
Mnyb wrote: > > A sketch is a good idea as you actually very rarely can read the labels > when fumbling behind you audio components anyway . > Good point which also reminds me that it's good if the connections is extruded a bit so it's possible to feel where the third connection from the right

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread Mnyb
erland wrote: > Should be enough with a single power connection and for this I think the > SBT model would be preferred as it allows people to reuse their high-end > modified power adapters and the rest of us just have to get a power > adapter with the right connector or reuse the one from the To

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread erland
JohnSwenson wrote: > People could be confused, the OTG port looks exactly like the "micro > power USB" port, they are physically identical. Someone could plug the > OTG port into a charger and nothing happens, or plug the charger port > into a computer and expect it to be a USB DAC and nothing ha

Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread GeeJay
My own experience with powerline adapters is mixed. Your success will depend on the wiring in your house. They tend to work well if the sending and receiving devices are on the same circuit, but may not work as well otherwise. I also found that I had buffering problems if someone was running other

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread guidof
rgro wrote: > Yeah, but most of us are owning Logitech devices with a compatible power > supply, so I think what we're saying is to please use the same barrel > size that we're already using. > > Yes. Guido F. guidof

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread guidof
JohnSwenson wrote: > > That brings up another issue, do we want labels on the back pannel, and > if yes, should they be text or icons, and if text what language. > > John S. Given the space constraints, probably mostly icons. Perhaps some text, such as "outs" to identify a group of items. Gu

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread rgro
castalla wrote: > Barrel connector adapters are a pain - so many different types - chances > are that somebody will force in the wrong size/polarity, etc. If there > are 2 power inputs - put them next to each other with one word POWER > (and a lightning flash symbol) above them. In any event,

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread castalla
cdmackay wrote: > Though it's trivial to get 1A, or even 2A USB supplies, relatively > cheaply. And many people will already have them lying around, which is > another point in favour. > > > > > Except they all seem to have differently sized barrels, which aren't > marked, and I believe it's

Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?

2013-03-18 Thread jimzak
Has anyone brought up the Nuvo line of wireless players yet? They do play high-res files and they work with wireless but they require their own gateway router. One interesting feature is that if you attach a USB hard drive to any player, the player will allow that music to be played and perhaps

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread cdmackay
simbo wrote: > I guess it depends on the draw. Most USB chargers are <1A. Though it's trivial to get 1A, or even 2A USB supplies, relatively cheaply. And many people will already have them lying around, which is another point in favour. JimC wrote: > A barrel connector is the best for a lot o

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread Mnyb
JohnSwenson wrote: > People could be confused, the OTG port looks exactly like the "micro > power USB" port, they are physically identical. Someone could plug the > OTG port into a charger and nothing happens, or plug the charger port > into a computer and expect it to be a USB DAC and nothing ha

Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?

2013-03-18 Thread JimC
garym wrote: > interesting, looks like a higher end sonos. doesn't seem to do deal with > music services. Not sure about serving library eitherassume also > DLNA. All this makes me appreciate my SB setup more and more It uses a Windows- or OSX-based application to serve the library to t

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread JohnSwenson
castalla wrote: > The Cubie barrel connector power is 5v 2 amp - I use an Amazon usb power > plug for this > (http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wall-Charger-Outlet-Output/dp/B005CG2ATQ). > The other power is via a mini usb connector - use a Kindle charger for > that. It also has 2 normal usb p

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread guidof
If at all possible, let's keep the same power connector as the SBT, by all means. Please. Guido F. guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sh

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread JimC
JohnSwenson wrote: > It sounds like you are talking about a USB jack that is JUST for power, > not a real USB that connects to a computer to send data over correct? > Will this confuse people? Will they try and hook it up to a computer and > expect to use it as a USB DAC? > > I have been lookin

Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?

2013-03-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
NeilF wrote: > What did you find lacking on the Sonos? Well, it has been a while since I used the Sonos system but here is what I remember from using it for a while: * There is no visible indication of what the ZP90 is doing. The white LED on the front of the device is always on (or always off;

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread w7r
Still following this exciting thread with great interest. Given the progress that has been made in what seems a very short space of time i'm now thinking about taking the plunge and buying the Wandboard (although my wife won't approve of yet another "gadget") as this looks like it really is going

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread erland
JJZolx wrote: > For the Gen1, the power connector is probably unimportant. But for the > Gen2 device I'm inclined to say use the connector used for the SBT, so > that as an upgrade people may use/buy higher end power supplies built > for the SB. > ---

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread epoch1970
I think some mechanical and electrical compliance w/ USB chargers is getting mandatory in the EU, at least for battery-operated handheld devices (which is not our case I guess.) If you look at how the Apple PSUs for iThings are designed, they provide a standard (?) USB port on the PSU, and the cab

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread castalla
JohnSwenson wrote: > It sounds like you are talking about a USB jack that is JUST for power, > not a real USB that connects to a computer to send data over correct? > Will this confuse people? Will they try and hook it up to a computer and > expect to use it as a USB DAC? > > I have been lookin

Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?

2013-03-18 Thread NeilF
Pascal Hibon wrote: > I have been looking too for an SB replacement but haven’t found one yet. > I even bought a Sonos ZP90 several months ago to try the system. Sonos > lacks a lot of basic functionally that SB had since many years. If your > used the SB system then Sonos is not an option. In th

Re: [slim] Wanted: a Few Can-do FLAC Testers / p2p Streamers

2013-03-18 Thread Memford
Julf wrote: > I assume this is intended only for Windows users? I used to run Windows apps using Wine in my Hardy Heron half of a dual boot, and found them to perform better than as native Windows. User d-tracks breaks it down here: http://streamerp2p.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1092&start

Re: [slim] Price of second hand squeezebox classic and duet bundle

2013-03-18 Thread bumpydog
Oh well. Hopefully I'll get somewhere near £150. I think I should of listed them separately. bumpydog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthr

Re: [slim] FLAC Stream Quality a Mixed Bag

2013-03-18 Thread Memford
matka wrote: > Also, when I captured some streams mplayer was reporting 128kbps. Attached please find Media Player Classic MediaInfo text file.14617 https://archive.org/details/A8flac20130317 to download the 6.9 MB flac file mentioned above http://flac.sourceforge.net/documentation_tools_flac.

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread JohnSwenson
castalla wrote: > The Cubieboard has 2 power options - a dedicated input using one of > those barrel connectors. There's also a mini usb power input which can > be used with standard usb power adapters. I use the mini usb for > everyday use. It sounds like you are talking about a USB jack that

Re: [slim] Price of second hand squeezebox classic and duet bundle

2013-03-18 Thread epoch1970
Could be. I gave away my Duet to a friend (he volunteered.) On ebay I've bought a few *new* old stock SB3 units around £85-100 each (shipping extra.) Look at the price the Logitech units go for, they seem to sell better than the Slim devices ones…

Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread rbl
aubuti wrote: > > And speaking of oddities, you may want to think about replacing that > microwave, because it shouldn't be giving off so much interference as to > bring down your wifi. It is a brand new Siemens combi microwave. It is sitting about 5m from the router, and the wireless SB3 is a

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread Triode
sbp wrote: > I'm not a linux-guru and have only recently started using linux. But I > have managed to hack a small dedicated player for the raspberry board > based on microcore linux and squeezelite (piCorePlayer). Maybe something > similar is possible for the wandboard, and I would like to help

Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread chill
aubuti wrote: > One of my Duet Controllers lives about 15cm (6 inches) from my fairly > newish GE microwave, and never has a hiccup. But it's also moving a lot > less data than a regular player, so maybe that's the difference, or at > least part of it. But my extra access point that is in constan

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread sbp
I have been following your development with interest. If possible I would like to beta-test your Gen1 when available. I'm not a linux-guru and have only recently started using linux. But I have managed to hack a small dedicated player for the raspberry board based on microcore linux and squeezel

Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread aubuti
chill wrote: > I think that depends on the proximity of the Squeezebox to the > microwave. I have a fairly newish Panasonic microwave, and my Boom in > the same kitchen often drops out while the microwave is on. The > microwave isn't killing the wifi in the whole house, but since the Boom > is

[slim] Price of second hand squeezebox classic and duet bundle

2013-03-18 Thread bumpydog
Hi guys. I'm currently selling a used (but in great condition) squeezebox classic and duet as a bundle on UK eBay. Anyone got any ideas how much I should expect for them? Sometimes both units seem to go for decent money, but not always... I've put a buy it now price of £199 for the pair, but pe

Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread chill
aubuti wrote: > And speaking of oddities, you may want to think about replacing that > microwave, because it shouldn't be giving off so much interference as to > bring down your wifi. I think that depends on the proximity of the Squeezebox to the microwave. I have a fairly newish Panasonic micr

Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread aubuti
Homeplug should work reliably for you as long as the Homeplug adapters on the router and the 2nd SB3 are on the same electrical circuit, and your wiring doesn't have any oddities. And speaking of oddities, you may want to think about replacing that microwave, because it shouldn't be giving off s

Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread ajkidle
I run a mixed network of traditional ethernet, powerline ethernet, and WiFi across my various players and they sync fine. From my experience, Powerline provides a more reliable connection than WiFi, albeit slower. That said, for the purposes of streaming audio, Powerline is plenty fast enough.

[slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread rbl
Hi - I currently have my main SB3 wired in to the network, and a secondary SB3 connected wirelessly with approx 60% signal strength. It all works and syncs very well until I turn the microwave on whereupon the whole things stops, unless I turn the 2nd SB3 off. Clearly interference from the microwa

Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!

2013-03-18 Thread SlimChances
bpa wrote: > The 128k is coming from the station http icy headers - the station is > providing misleading info. IIRC This info is sometimes used by LMS when > dealing with the metadata in MP3 and AAC streams but I don't think > metadata is provided in the OGG/Flac format. Good I will start addi

Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!

2013-03-18 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > but it does show up in LMS as a 128 CBR files. Maybe LMS can't handle > FLAC in an OGG container. The 128k is coming from the station http icy headers - the station is providing misleading info. IIRC This info is sometimes used by LMS when dealing with the metadata in MP3 and

Re: [slim] Usage of local music libraries in your family ?

2013-03-18 Thread bakker_be
erland wrote: > For those of you who are living together with a spouse or kids, I'd like > to understand a bit better how you would like to use local music > libraries in the future. Ignore what's supported in LMS and Squeezebox > today and instead think about how you would like it to work in the

Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!

2013-03-18 Thread garym
SlimChances wrote: > Quite right it was the wrong link. Tried again with the 80s station > using http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg in > Foobar but it didn't connect to anything. I will try later > > EDIT: I used Tune In and now have playback for the 80s station (please >

Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!

2013-03-18 Thread SlimChances
bpa wrote: > Why does this URL have "localhost:8080" (which is the PC running VLC) > rather than "icecast.as34763.net" which is in the referred links ? Quite right it was the wrong link. Tried again with the 80s station using http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg in Foobar b

Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?

2013-03-18 Thread bakker_be
I don't save any static playlists at all. I'm a very happy user of MusicIP through Spicefly Sugarcube, which perfectly covers "normal" listening. I've tried the new Smartmix plugin, but to me the results are a bit too "monotonous", in that Sugarcube isn't as strict in clinging to a specific genre.

Re: [slim] FLAC Stream Quality a Mixed Bag

2013-03-18 Thread bpa
matka wrote: > the ogg extension, is that just a container ? Also, when I captured some > streams mplayer was reporting 128kbps. Some of the Absolute stream are reporting in the http icy header 128kbps and this is what mplayer reports. ICY header provides station info (e.g.name, metadata packing

Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!

2013-03-18 Thread bpa
SlimChances wrote: > Getting this output when I try to play in VLC: > > Your input can't be opened: > VLC is unable to open the MRL > 'http://localhost:8080/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg'. Check the log > for details. Why does this URL have "localhost:8080" (which is the PC running VLC) rather

Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!

2013-03-18 Thread garym
SlimChances wrote: > Getting this output when I try to play in VLC: > > Your input can't be opened: > VLC is unable to open the MRL > 'http://localhost:8080/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg'. Check the log > for details. Just copied the 80s link and opened in foobar2000 and it plays (and is showi

Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!

2013-03-18 Thread SlimChances
Getting this output when I try to play in VLC: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://localhost:8080/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg'. Check the log for details. SlimChances's Profile: http://foru

Re: [slim] Wanted: a Few Can-do FLAC Testers / p2p Streamers

2013-03-18 Thread Julf
I assume this is intended only for Windows users? Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98327 ___

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread bakker_be
Mnyb wrote: > I like the idea to be able to use existing power suplies OR use the > comunity supply as spare or upgrade to existing players nice synergy > rigth there . > > Re running betas , I have only one server and it has been on the latest > betas since 2008 ! Does that qualify as tolerant

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-03-18 Thread simbo
cdmackay wrote: > I was going to ask: is there any reason not to use micro USB as the > power input? > > Even if people subsequently wanted to use a "better" supply, that could > still easily be routed through a microUSB connector? > > Also, quite keen to do beta testing, if that's helpful. I