Mnyb wrote:
Yes you have too, but the code hack is only one line I think it is in
SQLiteHelper.pm or ?
Oh, FFS. Groundhog Day.
The only way to fix this is have cache size as a pref, because we'd
never agree on a default. Yeah?
MeSue wrote:
Not as far as I know.
Thanks. Let's hope they do better with LMS and the software players.
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DaveWr wrote:
Is that to finally ensure they have given all their commercial value
away.
That's one way of looking at it; but it's their choice. Personally I
can't see the point of selling a combined hardware/software product then
keeping the software to yourself when you stop producing the
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I'd expect a device that looks and works better as a bedside
clock/radio.
Oh, great. Another Chumby. I can't wait.
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MeSue wrote:
This is something from the Logitech forum thread about the NuLOOQ, but
it seems appropriate here:
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Design-Controllers-and/NuLooq-Navigator-in-CS4/m-p/305697#M582
The last post in that thread is November 2011. Did Logitech ever release
the source
Hello Squeezebox Fans, Im Ariel, director of products for Logitech UE,
and Id like to take a moment to provide some additional explanation
about our transition from Logitech Squeezebox to Logitech UE Smart
Radio. First, we want you to know that Logitech values you, and we will
actively
tigersim wrote:
start considering contingencies before we wake up one day and find the
lights have gone out.
Thoughts?
I'm already awake, but it's pretty dark in here. So let's take a stab in
this 'ere dark: I think the fact that the devs are putting LMS into git
speaks volumes.
audiofi wrote:
Looking on the firmware listings, there is one from 2006 for the SB2
(which was pre-Logitech?)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I imagine the SB2 was mostly off the shelf
components, add on the firmware and the Open Source software...
now there's a Kickstarter project!
Do the alarm handling in the child processes; wrapper probably simplest
way?
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jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
I just don't get this rabid buying of a dead product line unless your
only using
The squeezebox to listen to the music on your computer or nas .
Why only?
I bought into this product line to listen to *my* music, not someone
else's choice, or something selected
gruntwolla wrote:
Please tell me that was an attempt at sarcasm
Sarcastic, moi? ;)
If there's any ongoing promotion, either SB or UE, I'm not seeing it.
Seems like even Martin Brennan has better marketing than Logitech for
this kind of stuff.
garym wrote:
i'd bite at $700
Remind me never to bid against you on eBay...
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w3wilkes wrote:
Was that a slam on us older folks with hearing aids?
YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT, DID YOU?
Or is it because Phonak hearing aids are one of the more geeky ones that
users can do their own programming for if they want to? Or are you
saying that since us older folk with hearing
Mnyb wrote:
You don't have to particularly old to be deaf if you are a musician ;)
I'm ageing one-eared. The bad ear has ~30% function, but an almost
flat frequency response. The brain compensates, but I suppose it means I
hear music differently to the non-disabled. I'm physically unable to
erland wrote:
They have high-end products in pretty much every market segment they
have products in. It of course depends on what you mean with high-end
but mass market users definitely doesn't get a keyboard for $179, a
mouse for $99, a universal remote for $349 or in-ear head phones for
mherger wrote:
It's Ultimate Ears ;-). They do custom in-ear monitors for pro
musicians. Only a few days ago I noticed this picture posted by bassist
'Tony Levin ' (http://www.papabear.com/tours/pg12/pg12_1.htm) from
rehearsals with Peter Gabriel:
Much respect here for Peter Gabriel, but
gruntwolla wrote:
That's easy. Put everything on Logitech stock. With their markrting
expertise they're gonna sell millions of UE's ..
What's a UE?
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The last few posts have got me wondering... what are the most expensive
and/or upmarket products that Logitech have sold? Are other things being
EOL'ed?
I'd somehow be happier if I thought they were cutting all of their
high-end products, rather than targeting SBs.
mortslim wrote:
I finally decided to try a low power squeezebox server. I purchased a
SheevaPlug. I have never used linux before.
I guess it's a little late to wish you good luck with that. I'm just a
looky-loo and a gawker. I've owned a SheevaPlug for a while, and knew
the answer to some
mherger wrote:
Then there's your router, your TV set, your music service's backend.
It does seem a little strange to be ranting about how bad some software
is, and instead recommending a product based on the same software...
Mother used to wake the family with the sound of burnt toast
Mnyb wrote:
Thats another problem due to that slimp3 and sb1 have much smaller
buffers , I can see it be a bit problematic to make syncing code that
works perfect in this scenario .
It gets compounded by LMS transcoding in many instances as slimp3 don't
support that many file formats
alfista wrote:
What you didn't just almost say was:
No, what I said was that Logitech have been encouraging use of their
official forum since day 1, which is incorrect.
I don't think we are likely to change that by turning our back on the
users who hop on the UE train now, simply because
bpa wrote:
The user communities supporting these products are often quite small.
True, but they're amazingly enthusiastic and making incredible progress.
XBMC rox.
There are a few Linux alternatives (which generally have a better user
community) such as this plug computer with analoguie
I ordered my first SliMP3 on November 22, 2002. It still works just
fine, although I have no idea where the remote went.
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It may be possible to create a set of latency/timing profiles for
specific hardware configurations (simple ones, like a Pi + a particular
model of sound dongle). These would need to be maintained by the
community, but would also need some support from the player software to
Gadgety1 wrote:
I'll check that Mele out.
Amazon UK has the A2000 for 75 quid.
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The Asus O!Play boxes seem to have all the required connectors, and
they're easily hackable. But it looks like they've already been and
gone.
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bpa wrote:
This A10 system (
http://store.cloudsto.com/android-mini-pc-s/a10-media-pc-8gb-nand-1gb-ddr3-ram-detail.html
) is a bit dear has 1Mb Ram
1Gb. :)
Thanks for that URL. These are the products that the XBMC doods were
raving about last time I visited their forum.
simbo wrote:
I think you were just lucky with your hardware config!
LOL. I can't even get my SliMP3s to sync correctly with my SBs using
recent versions of LMS.
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alfista wrote:
but stubbornly trying to obstruct their efforts would be counteractive
(and also futile).
As I (almost) said before, Logitech have encouraged people to use their
official forum for the Squeezeboxes for a long time. They may prefer
it if we refer all UE stuff there. They may
castalla wrote:
They came for the Communists first, then the others later
Damn, did Google get it wrong again?
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Do any of these non-SB alternatives sync properly with the SBs?
It depends what you mean by properly. I find iPeng gets it almost
right, to the point where, wandering around the house, I don't notice it
as bad synchronization, it's more like being at an open-air festival.
I'm glad someone's brought this up.
IMO, we should refuse to have anything to do with the UE stuff on the
Squeezebox forum. Let's see how well Logitech cope with supporting their
users without additional resources from the community. Maybe just for a
while, in the hope that we might get some
mps wrote:
I don't think going to war with Logitech is going to help anything.
Who said anything about going to war? This is more like industrial
action: they're not co-operating with us, so why should we co-operate
with them?
We've always had official forums at Logitech and more
Mnyb wrote:
But UE users may initially get better help/comunity on the oficial forum
.
They've been trying to persuade us to use the Official Forum since day
1.
Seems like a good time to help them do this by redirecting all the UE
issues there.
Personally i find the official forums
garym wrote:
very good point.
No it isn't.
It's bending over for our wannabe corporate masters.
That's not what Open Source is supposed to be about.
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castalla wrote:
I think it's time to follow the advice of The Scousers (for non-UK
readers, that's people from Liverpool) and 'Calm Down':
The Mrs. is Scouse.
I'm calmly trying to protect my investment. I don't suppose an
alternative POV will make much difference, but they came for the
garym wrote:
Look
As least you didn't call me pal. :-)
I have more of this stuff than the average user. But it's not an
investment. I have investments and thats a different animal. It's a
nice, inexpensive networked music system that has quality and
flexibility. I love it.
I don't
castalla wrote:
I don't agree - there's a large potential market across Europe. People
just don't know about internet radio and streaming.
And Logitech are going to educate them about all this and drum up enough
enthusiasm to make the UE a must-have killer appliance? With no
advertising and
garym wrote:
The apple tv is not a server that can run software (Im assuming).
It has to be jailbroken. Googling xbmc apple tv 2 gives the
instructions for installing XBMC on it. XBMC already has a squeezeslave,
so it's 90% there already.
jimzak wrote:
I do like the idea of a fanless design, if it doesn't fry itself...which
it apparently does not.
No. It just makes you think it's going to!
Mine's lasted 18 months so far running 24/7 as a router in a dusty
corner of the wife's study. Highly recommended, other than the faint
castalla wrote:
The available internet radios are mostly ugly design and have poor
screen ergonomics - eg. 2 line scrolling monochrome.
I suppose it's all down to taste. I just Googled, and the Roberts Stream
83i was my first hit. IMHO, that *looks* better than the Logitech
offerings.
And
garym wrote:
I'm just trying to clarify what the apple tv 2 can do in terms of being
a small computer, like a fitpc2, sheevaplug, small NAS, etc
The main problem would be memory. Yeah, Google says that the ATV2 only
comes with 256M, which is probably not enough to do anything useful as a
Labarum wrote:
And hope they are watching and listening?
It would make a refreshing change.
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garym wrote:
But they have no plans to discontinue support for legacy SB products,
including mysb.com and even these forums.
Michael wrote, denying: LMS is dead - It will continue to see some bug
fixing and updates to keep up with latest OS developments etc.
So, *some* bug fixing. Updates
truehl wrote:
First I was a kind of shocked from hearing the news, but now I ask you:
Do we really need Logitech?
No. But we need lead developers for SBS, and they happen to be working
for Logitech at the moment.
routehero wrote:
There aren't any plans to pull the plug on the forums.
I would be surprised if many in the management were reading these
forums.
Rest assured that the people that work on the Squeezebox infrastructure
are eager to keep it around and will advocate its long life.
castalla wrote:
They could also spend some money on advertising!
Where? What?
UE is an also-ran, much like the Revue.
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aubuti wrote:
Just another bystander idly guessing, but I suppose the Administrator
designation (as opposed to our lowly Senior Member status) has
something to do with it. Also, past posts such as this one:
garym wrote:
I've always thought the fitpc2 would make a nice dedicated silent unit
for audio. Haven't tried yet. It has spdif out as well.
Costs too much, and runs too hot.
Has to be something like the Apple TV 2.
Labarum wrote:
Then that leaves me in the same position as before the announcement: why
buy a SB Touch for £200 when I can get a small format PC with S/PDIF out
for the same price?
Exactly. Or one of several £100 media players which provide a digital
out?
Benefactor wrote:
I'm just being OCD, and grabbing whatever files I think might be useful
to have archives of later on.
:)
Code:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
# SliMP3 Server Copyright (C) 2001 Sean Adams, Slim Devices Inc.
yeomanspc wrote:
I'm minded to buy one more touch but Amazon in the UK are sold out and
others have them at a premium right now.
How do you know Amazon UK are sold out?
If it's the long delivery estimate, I think that's just because they
ship them from various places in Europe, rather than
hvb83 wrote:
But if the initiative needs to be supported by donations or a yearly
fee, I'll be more than happy to do so!
Ditto that.
I already have a lot invested in my Squeezeboxes. Financially,
intellectually... emotionally...
garym wrote:
Rest assured that the Squeezebox platform youve been enjoying over the
years will continue to provide you access to a rich world of music and
well continue to address any questions or troubleshooting on our
Logitech.com support page:
andynormancx wrote:
Their Usually dispatched within 1 - 2 months often (but not always)
means we'll never get any more stock, but no one has taken the time to
confirm that and remove our price from the item yet.
Go on, destroy another happy delusion... as if it isn't bad enough
already... :P
kidstypike wrote:
Come over here where we can't be heard ...
What do you think he's doing? :)
I find this I know something you don't know game very annoying.
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garym wrote:
Am I correct in assuming this system wouldn't handle sync to multiple
room players
XBMC has squeezebox plugins. The controller/artwork display is OK, but
the player is just a squeezeslave. The showstopper for me was that it
grabs the audio output and doesn't integrate nicely with
Probably not quite close enough to what you want, but I'll suggest it
anyway: scrobble your played tracks to last.fm.
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JJZolx wrote:
Are _any_ bugs being fixed these days? I no longer see any activity in
the bug database from anyone working for Logitech.
FWIW, I reported a bug early this morning and got a friendly email about
it this afternoon. I'm finding this gloom-laden forum pretty hard going
at the
Jeff Flowerday wrote:
I have 110,000+ tracks and I was forced to used a ramdisk for the cache
and database. But LMS has been working very well since implementing it.
I'm something of an obsessive performance geek when I get the time. I've
tried ZFS in the NAS, adding SSDs to the ZFS, using
JJZolx wrote:
The Squeezebox product line as we once knew it is dead.
It's just resting.
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erland wrote:
Finally, I think it's too early to give up on Logitech and the
Squeezebox product family, but I don't want to go into more details in a
public forum at this time.
Let's just say that there might be more things going on than what's
visible in this public community forum.
The
Do any of your SBS boxes have more than one active ethernet?
I haven't yet tracked down the exact problem, but I think something odd
is happening with SBS broadcasts on boxes with more than one interface.
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sebp;653970 Wrote:
In some cases, when the file name contains a backslash character, for
example, SBS would be able to load the files with the #EXTURL
information, but not without it.
Cunning. How would this work on Windows?
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that could happen is that someone who knows
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SBS uses #EXTURL to be smarter, but it will regenerate it when it feels
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only seems to want addresses, and not names.
If it works with names, you could register the remote player with a
DDNS provider.
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manatlan;652946 Wrote:
(example : SBS 7.6.1 was released yesterday
Has 7.6.1 been released, then? I must have missed the announcement
here. :)
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I think a fix is in the works. There's already new firmware for the
Touch (r9464) which stomps on some of these problems, but the Radio is
usually a few days behind (because it's harder to revert).
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cancel the update with the Back or
Home buttons. Rebooting the Radios by holding the power button fixed
it, and all three are OK. Please.
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Do keep up at the back, there. 7.6.1 is the work-in-progress. It's a bit
better. No, really.
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Meh.
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the Empty popup, but the track is Loved
OK.
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2. The Logitech App is free, so what money do you want back?
I'm from the North of England. We don't do smilies.
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pippin;639204 Wrote:
You are missing nothing. iPeng can do it, Logitech's app can not.
Thanks for confirming that. I had assumed it was simply my ignorance
which prevented Logitech's app from connecting to my SBS. But now I
want my money back.
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