bhaagensen;255342 Wrote:
[...] they have to start somewhere. They could have offered a client for
e.g. the iphone, n800 and symbian, but multiplatform developement takes
more time, [...]. Moreover the entire platform is open, so anyone is
free to create a better and cheaper solution, or
Greg Friedman;255246 Wrote:
Had the controller debuted with a $150 price tag, I would have easily
justified the purchase. At $299 it doesn't make sense to me.
Me, too. I'm really disappointed. I already have an SB3 and the new
remote is just what I'm looking for - but not at this price.
Rick B.;255500 Wrote:
Me, too. I'm really disappointed. I already have an SB3 and the new
remote is just what I'm looking for - but not at this price.
I must confess Im a little disappointed in the Duet as an existing
user. If starting from scratch I can see its a great piece of kit but
as
Peter;254876 Wrote:
ModelCitizen wrote:
Phil Meyer;254852 Wrote:
What's the main benefits of the SqueezeBox Controller over a PDA?The
interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is
on
I also already have a SB3 and would like to have a remote like in the
Duet - but it does seem very expensive for what it will add to my
setup. Shame.
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I think its a shame that the IR Blaster port has been removed.
That would be very useful to switch power on an amp (and control the
volume). So the whole thing could be hidden in a cabinet. Only the
controller would be visible.
Regards,
Michael
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GCFL;254822 Wrote:
Please forgive me if this is posted in the incorrect location. I am
currently running four zones via a Zon audio system in my home. I am
seriously considering purchasing the Duet and plugging it in as one of
the music sources so I can access streaming Internet radio,
I'm in the it's too expensive camp as well. I think what's happened to
many of us is that we feel we've been offered a $300 remote control for
our SB3s and Transporters and clearly that's a lot of money for a
dedicated remote control (i.e., not a universal). No offense to SD,
but the initial
The controller does have an IR emitter.
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andyg;255535 Wrote:
The controller does have an IR emitter.
That's interesting -- I did not see that anywhere in the specs. Still,
the emitter does little good if we cannot program the remote for our
equipment. Will that be possible?
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I think the sticker shock is less pronounced if you think of it starting
from scratch with a multi room setup in mind. All of you with 3 or 4
SB3's have equal capability at almost the same cost.
In thinking through the target audience for the duet, I am not sure
that SD has yet hit the nail on
sbjaerum;21 Wrote:
There is currently a test applet that makes it possible to control
SB/Transporter using the IR emitter on the Controller.
I am sure it is possible to extend on that so that the Controller will
act as a universal IR remote.
Adding just some simple IR learning would be
stevek1006;255548 Wrote:
That's interesting -- I did not see that anywhere in the specs. Still,
the emitter does little good if we cannot program the remote for our
equipment. Will that be possible?
There is currently a test applet that makes it possible to control
SB/Transporter using the
stevek1006;255548 Wrote:
That's interesting -- I did not see that anywhere in the specs. Still,
the emitter does little good if we cannot program the remote for our
equipment. Will that be possible?
If someone writes an extension to the software to let you do it. This
someone may be Logitec,
earthbased;255515 Wrote:
Harmony integration?
Now that I would buy!
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How will a transporter owner shift between a digital input or SC
without being conected to SC or SN. Or Controll volume etc.
With the digital ins it's possible to use transporter as a dac/preamp
without being connected to anything ?
An ir applet is much needed for that otherwise you need two
If my SB3 fails to conect to SN for some reason, isnt that a catch22 how
do i piont it back SC (my computer) with the Controller ? do I have to
bring forth the old remote or can future versions of SC7 take over from
the serverside (i'm at 6.5.4 myself)
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thomsens;255541 Wrote:
No offense to SD, but the initial explanation of it cost us a lot to
build, so it has to cost that much for you. Plus, we'll do the basic
stuff to make the remote control work, but enabling the extra hw will
be your responsibility to take care of comes off as a little
CES starts today (I believe) and that is a very important platform for
launching new product, hence the timing.
I'm sure SD and Logitech decided to launch with the functionality that
is currently reliable.
Bear in mind that launch and shop availability can be some months
apart, and that in the
The specs list Apple Lossless as a supported format, and don't mention
transcoding. Does this mean that ALAC is now supported natively? I'd
love to have FFWD/REW support for Apple Lossless (drat iTunes for not
supporting FLAC).
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Mnyb;255569 Wrote:
If my SB3 fails to conect to SN for some reason, isnt that a catch22 how
do i piont it back SC (my computer) with the Controller ? do I have to
bring forth the old remote or can future versions of SC7 take over from
the serverside (i'm at 6.5.4 myself)
The Controller is a
I still do not understand the SD pathway.
For quite some time I have held off buying more SB(3)s as while I
considered them excellent technically, I felt they had become rather
over priced. I was hoping the morphing with Logitech's people would
reduce the hardware cost of these machines.
Now
Any reason why the new devices aren't 802.11n draft 2.0 compliant. With
most n routers, mixing g and n clients slows the whole network down. I
bet there are lots of people like me who would be relying on wifi for
the multi-room setups. It would be nice to have the higher speed and
lower risk of
IRJ;255651 Wrote:
I still do not understand the SD pathway.
For quite some time I have held off buying more SB(3)s as while I
considered them excellent technically, I felt they had become rather
over priced. I was hoping the morphing with Logitech's people would
reduce the hardware cost
IRJ wrote:
Now they issue a new SB, the SBR, for an excellent $150.00. I became
excited that I could pair with my original SBs and continue to control
them all with my WiFi. Although some seem to think this is clunky, I
find it highly satisfactory. But Nope! To conrol an SBR one needs the
To control an SBR one needs the new $250.00 controller so going the new
route would cost me $400.00 for one extra SB(R).
Hopefully, this will quickly be addressed by Logitech or by the
community. I cannot imagine a reason the controller could not be setup
by plugging a PC to the Ethernet port.
IRJ;255651 Wrote:
I do not understand why the new SBR hasn't been enabled to be controlled
by WiFi, to give users and especially long standing costomers a choice.
That's because it *is* enabled to be controlled by wifi. At the present
time you need the Controller for initial configuration of
Hi!
it seems everyone is really interested in the controller. Me however,
is more interested in the sound quality. How does this new little black
box called the Receiver fare against the ol' SB3 in terms of sound
quality using the built-in DAC's (Wolfson vs BB)? And why did you go
with Wolfson
nicky6;255670 Wrote:
the controller is derived from the Useless DJ BadSound system ;)
I've seen this come up before. Let me answer: no, no, NO.
There is not a single line of code in the Squeezebox controller shared
with the Logitech Wireless DJ. The Squeezebox controller is engineered
nicky6;255670 Wrote:
Hi!
it seems everyone is really interested in the controller. Me however,
is more interested in the sound quality. How does this new little black
box called the Receiver fare against the ol' SB3 in terms of sound
quality using the built-in DAC's (Wolfson vs BB)? And
nicky6;255670 Wrote:
Hi!
it seems everyone is really interested in the controller. Me however,
is more interested in the sound quality. How does this new little black
box called the Receiver fare against the ol' SB3 in terms of sound
quality using the built-in DAC's (Wolfson vs BB)? And
I have two setups:
In my apartment I have a Transporter connected via ethernet wire to a
mac with an external drive; the mac can also access my wireless
network.
In my country house I have an SB3 accessing music stored on a mac
wirelessly.
Question:
Will the new remote by itself (without the
clarkgable;255713 Wrote:
Question:
Will the new remote by itself (without the receiver) replace my Nokia
800 web interface control?
Answer: Yes, but only for controlling your SBs, not general web
browsing like you can do with the Nokia 800.
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1 Car PC in the trunk running SqueezeCenter
1 Receiver in the trunk connected to the car's audio system
1 Controller in the car to control your music
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gorman;255743 Wrote:
Is a setup like this reasonable/doable?
1 Car PC in the trunk running SqueezeCenter
1 Receiver in the trunk connected to the car's audio system
1 Controller in the car to control your music
If the controller can control softsqueeze (?) save on the receiver and
just
meep;255745 Wrote:
If the controller can control softsqueeze (?) save on the receiver and
just plug your pc audio out into the car system? Or use a Nokia 770/800
and get GPS as well?
PeterI already have a GPS receiver, plus for car use I think the more
streamlined the user interface is the
I could complain how the duet controller doesn't have built in GPS, cell
phone, too big, too small, too expensive, wrong color, doesn't have a
built in browser, blah, blah, blah.
but I like the design, it's quite a bit less expensive than the
alternatives, and it's just what I was looking for.
Bizarroterl wrote:
I could complain how the duet controller doesn't have built in GPS, cell
phone, too big, too small, too expensive, wrong color, doesn't have a
built in browser, blah, blah, blah.
At the risk of going way OT here.
What he said.
Why can't I buy a cell phone that is good at
pfarrell;255793 Wrote:
Why can't I buy a cell phone that is good at being a cell phone?
Why do *all* of the cell phones tout their ability to play MP3 files,
display photos, and all sorts of stuff I don't want, and yet they have
at best mediocre functionality as a phone?
What ever
New product looks great, but I'm disappointed that it does not have a
keyboard (numeric like the SB remotes). I have played a lot with the
SONOS controller. Both the original SONOS interface (scrolling through
songs) and their new search interface (scrolling through the alphabet)
really stink.
On 7-Jan-08, at 11:52 AM, stoobie-doo wrote:
Any reason why the new devices aren't 802.11n draft 2.0 compliant.
With
most n routers, mixing g and n clients slows the whole network down.
I don't think this is true. At least, my early pre-n Belkin router
doesn't suffer, so I'd be
Pat Farrell wrote:
Bizarroterl wrote:
I could complain how the duet controller doesn't have built in GPS, cell
phone, too big, too small, too expensive, wrong color, doesn't have a
built in browser, blah, blah, blah.
At the risk of going way OT here.
What he said.
Why can't I
For me, the main reason I'd like to see 802.11n support is for use
with the wireless bridging capability. I use that option on my SB3,
and plan to use it on the next SB3/SBR/whatever that I buy. Having
the additional bandwidth would be nice if I add a lot of stuff behind
the bridge, but for what
Please forgive me if this is posted in the incorrect location. I am
currently running four zones via a Zon audio system in my home. I am
seriously considering purchasing the Duet and plugging it in as one of
the music sources so I can access streaming Internet radio, networked
music files etc.
Make the controller 100% compatible with SB3's and I'll buy the
controller.
I want to remain with my SB3's as the display on it can be read by all
when they walk past which is handy, the remote that is less likely as
I'll have it hidden somewhere so it doesn't get stolen by friend, foe
or family.
Great, now I can sell my Sonos system! (I use both Squeezebox and Sonos;
the Sonos is nice because I have the Remote always with me...)
My problem with the Sonos is that I cannot see more than 50,000 songs
and I do have more!
So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
It's a shame there is no display on the receiver, everyone who passes
this house is impressed with seeing what is being played scrolling by.
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So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
collection?
Duet is the bundled Receiver and Controller. I assume you're interested in the
Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but communicates with
SqueezeCenter. It will only keep those items in memory which
It's a shame there is no display on the receiver, everyone who passes
this house is impressed with seeing what is being played scrolling by.
Then buy a SB3 instead. It's not discontinued.
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Make the controller 100% compatible with SB3's and I'll buy the
controller.
It is. Get one ;-).
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Phil Meyer;254852 Wrote:
What's the main benefits of the SqueezeBox Controller over a PDA?The
interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is on
whatever device/platform I've tried it on).
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Phil Meyer;254852 Wrote:
What's the main benefits of the SqueezeBox Controller over a PDA?The
interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is on
whatever device/platform I've
macintoys.nl wrote:
Michael Herger;254857 Wrote:
So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
collection?[/color]
Duet is the bundled Receiver and Controller. I assume you're interested
in the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
There are stupendeus price hikes if one sees the European prices :-(
at
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/
Qucik calc for the swedish prices including 25% VAT:
399$*6.2031*1.25=3094 SEK
The suggested logitech price 3999 SEK (I hope this includes VAT)
I'm
Are you sure? I hope so! But the controller and the receiver both have
64MB Ram. Isn't that used for indexing or so?
Receiver has 64M_b_ (8MB) which is used to buffer data and run decoders.
Controller has 64M_B_ of RAM. Indexing is done on SqueezeCenter. Thus library
size isn't limited by
The controller does not have/use a web GUI.
That said we would be very happy if somebody was able to implement a web
browser for it :-).
Michael
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macintoys.nl;254874 Wrote:
Are you sure? I hope so! But the controller and the receiver both have
64MB Ram. Isn't that used for indexing or so?
The RAM is for adio buffers and in the case of the remote, a cache for
graphics sent from SqueezeCenter.
The Duet, SqueezeBox and Taransporter all
ModelCitizen;254855 Wrote:
The interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is on
whatever device/platform I've tried it on). The difference is chalk and
cheese.
MC
Can second that. When I looked at
Mnyb;254877 Wrote:
There are stupendeus price hikes if one sees the European prices :-(
at
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/
Qucik calc for the swedish prices including 25% VAT:
399$*6.2031*1.25=3094 SEK
The suggested logitech price 3999 SEK (I
Michael Herger;254857 Wrote:
So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
collection?[/color]
Duet is the bundled Receiver and Controller. I assume you're interested
in the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
communicates with SqueezeCenter. It
I thought they said it doesnt support ad-hoc yet. I would need to be
running my own AP currently.
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The swedish price is actually 3999 SEK which is 644$
but never theless bs
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No infrared receiver listed for the new Receiver?
I suppose it does make sense since you would not be able to see the
menus - but it would have worked with Favourites on presets, volume,
mute, power.
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In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price hike
for UK buyers?
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ModelCitizen wrote:
In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price hike
for UK buyers?
Er, I think your sums may have gone a little awry.
ModelCitizen;254901 Wrote:
In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price hike
for UK buyers?
MC
None IMHO, but does the US price include
I don't think the import part count's, sure it will if you import one
yourself.
But what duties are logitech paying ? and where are the product
manufactured, and what does it cost before markup when logitech imports
them into EU ? There migth be import cost's in the US price to.
Parrellell
Am I alone in being slightly more excited about the SBR than the
Controller (which is lovely and I'm not putting it down). If the US
price of $149 converts (with VAT and duty) to around (preferably under)
£100, it starts to look like a reasonably affordable module with which
to build a rather
Robin Bowes;254913 Wrote:
ModelCitizen wrote:
In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK
Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price
hike
for UK buyers?
Er, I think your
I'm most interested in the controller, but the combo deal makes an
aditional reciver a consideration.
Id like to se the covers for my CD's andas it is backlit i can se it in
the dark.
If someone makes the headphone soccet in the controller work i'm happy
then I have a kitchen radio.I will hook it
Mnyb;254908 Wrote:
None IMHO, but does the US price include sales tax, it's common EU
practice to anounce comsumer prices inluding taxes. US have diffent
sales tax in different states.
So it's maybe not 40% but anyway i think like you and I don't like it.
It's not the money i can afford
toby10;254959 Wrote:
The one advantage to our overly bloated and outrageously disorganized
form of government here
You've obviously no experience of uk government bureaucracy then.
:-)
MC
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mvalera;254681 Wrote:
Mike
I WANT ONE! Just bill it to Sean Adams account.:)
The posted screen shots are nice. Are there plans to eventually post
some screen shots of what the screen *actually* will be displaying in
regards to Internet Radio feeds?
Thanks.:)
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Robin Bowes;254913 Wrote:
Er, I think your sums may have gone a little awry.
$399.99 converted directly to UKP is £202.63
You must get a better rate than me then.
:-)
Yup, looks like I screwed the conversion up.
MC
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Fifer;254935 Wrote:
Am I alone in being slightly more excited about the SBR than the
Controller (which is lovely and I'm not putting it down). If the US
price of $149 converts (with VAT and duty) to around (preferably under)
£100, it starts to look like a reasonably affordable module with
Well, Logitech.com is only showing the duet on the UK site. One of the
Slim guys (forgot which one) has already said the items will not be
generally available separately, but will be direct from them and
certain internet partners
BUT, Slim Devices only ship to the Americas - which means the
I also assume that your own computer can control the new receiver so you
really don't need any remote (neither the new one nor the old one).
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the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
communicates with SqueezeCenter. It will only keep those items in
memory which are to be displayed.
Thus from what the above quote implies and what can be gleaned from
other posts, it seems that the controller communicates either with
I also want to follow up on the comments that the new controller is
better than a pda (e.g. the nokia web tablets - 770, 800, 810)
If the idea is to have something handheld rather than a desktop or
laptop computer to control the receiver, then looking at form factor,
the nokia line seem to beat
the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
communicates with SqueezeCenter. It will only keep those items in
memory which are to be displayed.
Anyone knows if it remember this when you powered off the server ? or
does it have to cache these thing's every time the server starts
The new controller doesn't seem to have enough buttons.
How would I use it to type a search when there are no alphanumeric
buttons? It doesn't have a touch screen for that does it? No.. can't
do... else there'd be no buttons at all.
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mortslim;255008 Wrote:
I also assume that your own computer can control the new receiver so you
really don't need any remote (neither the new one nor the old one).
Logitech people have said that you need the Controller for setup, and a
Receiver by itself is not a functioning configuration.
mkozlows;255018 Wrote:
Logitech people have said that you need the Controller for setup, and a
Receiver by itself is not a functioning configuration. (I think;
correct me if I'm wrong.)
They have said that, and I can see why it has to be true for a wireless
connection (you need to identify
mrfantasy;255028 Wrote:
They have said that, and I can see why it has to be true for a wireless
connection (you need to identify a network) but if you connect it to
your wired network, there'd be no technical reason why it couldn't DHCP
an address and then identify a SqueezeCenter, and let
It seems that logitech passed out some of these new units to some
existing customers as beta testers who apparently kept the secret till
the official announcement.
I would like to be on the beta tester list when the next iteration
appears three years hence :)
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mortslim;255036 Wrote:
It seems that logitech passed out some of these new units to some
existing customers as beta testers who apparently kept the secret till
the official announcement.
I would like to be on the beta tester list when the next iteration
appears three years hence :)
Fyi,
I loved the initial product since it was focussed on high sound quality
with interesting features like an open source client/server.
The new commander look to me as a mere wifi micro PDA, ideally
one could control any streaming media server with
any form of computing device with communication
mecouc;255022 Wrote:
The new controller doesn't seem to have enough buttons.
How would I use it to type a search when there are no alphanumeric
buttons? It doesn't have a touch screen for that does it? No.. can't
do... else there'd be no buttons at all.
Text entry is via the scroll
mortslim;255008 Wrote:
I also assume that your own computer can control the new receiver so you
really don't need any remote (neither the new one nor the old one).
Once it's setup on the network, yes. It will basically look like any
other player to either the new controller or the
bretonfou;255058 Wrote:
Before i had a squeezebox, i enjoyed it but i broke down after 18
monthes and there is no way to fix it and the warranty is over.
The advantage of using something else than what logitec sell is that it
can be repaired.
How long ago did it break down?
the
A possibillity, would be if logitech could offer some kind off
preconfig service untill SC gets the abillity to set IP in SBR
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I need some clarification.
If I have say an existing SB1 or 2 or 3, can I add a new SBR and
control both from my existing WiFi PDA?
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macintoys.nl;254874 Wrote:
Are you sure? I hope so! But the controller and the receiver both have
64MB Ram. Isn't that used for indexing or so?
That is inadvertently very misleading and will be rephrased. The
controller has 64 mega_bytes_, but the Receiver, Squeezebox and
Transporter are all
How much bandwitdh will the controller use over the wifi ?
Is there any risc off audiable droopouts when scrolling with the
controller ? just a thougth
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Mnyb;255165 Wrote:
How much bandwitdh will the controller use over the wifi ?
Not much. It is only downloading lists in text form, plus small
graphics for the covert art. It would be roughly equivalent to browsing
simple web pages from a wireless laptop.
Is there any risc off audiable
mortslim;255016 Wrote:
I also want to follow up on the comments that the new controller is
better than a pda (e.g. the nokia web tablets - 770, 800, 810)
If the idea is to have something handheld rather than a desktop or
laptop computer to control the receiver, then looking at form factor,
When will the controller be aviable as a separate item then ? is there a
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I loved the initial product since it was focussed on high sound quality
with interesting features like an open source client/server.
The new commander look to me as a mere wifi micro PDA, ideally
one could control any streaming media server with
any form of computing device with communication
On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:14 AM, IRJ wrote:
I need some clarification.
If I have say an existing SB1 or 2 or 3, can I add a new SBR and
control both from my existing WiFi PDA?
At this time you need a Squeezebox Controller to set up a Squeezebox
Receiver.
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