[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread Steven Moore
I purchased a Harmony 525 from Logitech. One of the buttons on the remote failed after about 10 mths and Logitech replaced it without any fuss. Their customer service was excellent and I had my new remote within 1 week. I would still recommend their remotes and I agree the web based software is

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread P Floding
CardinalFang;149995 Wrote: The point to me is that we all know Slim and it has an certain reputation for high quality sound, but is a bit of a geeky product. LogiTech have another brand image, which is for PC products and some people have good experience of them. We're in the know and we can

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread Masterbaron
SD and their team should know what logitech stands for and the associated customer perception and experience - if they've done their homework - it's no accident so many people fear this marriage! if Logitech has any savy at all they will address this issue with a new hi-end division and start

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread P Floding
Steven Moore;150183 Wrote: I purchased a Harmony 525 from Logitech. One of the buttons on the remote failed after about 10 mths and Logitech replaced it without any fuss. Their customer service was excellent and I had my new remote within 1 week. I would still recommend their remotes and

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread P Floding
Logitech is a two rubber feet company, wheras SD was a four rubber feet company. Any company that saves a few cents on their products by using two rubber feet instead of four because it is just as good needs to have their bean counters shot! (And that is a lot of companies, with a lot of bean

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread CardinalFang
P Floding;150197 Wrote: Is a browser interface not smart? How do you use iTunes on your server PC while sitting at your laptop in another room, or even on your PDA or Smartphone? Answer: You don't. Youy *are* able to play back all of the music on another PC connected to the same network and

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread jonheal
P Floding;150198 Wrote: Logitech is a two rubber feet company, wheras SD was a four rubber feet company. Any company that saves a few cents on their products by using two rubber feet instead of four because it is just as good needs to have their bean counters shot! (And that is a lot of

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread P Floding
jonheal;150231 Wrote: Well, the SB is a two rubber feet and a rubber tube device. ;-) Yup, but the tube counts as many rubber feet! ;-) (Infinitely many?) -- P Floding P Floding's Profile:

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread Nostromo
Masterbaron;150193 Wrote: SD and their team should know what logitech stands for and the associated customer perception and experience - if they've done their homework - it's no accident so many people fear this marriage! if Logitech has any savy at all they will address this issue with a

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-27 Thread jonheal
P Floding;150233 Wrote: Yup, but the tube counts as many rubber feet! ;-) (Infinitely many?) Yes, I think you could chop it up into at least 30 or 40 little feet, making the SB at least 15-20 times better than even the finest two-rubber-feet device! -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread MikeWynneDub
Joe Craig;149967 Wrote: I would not dream of having any Logitech equipment near my stereo. So ... the logo on the box is more important than the quality of the sound coming out of the box? -- Joe Well, it is important... But the point I was trying to make is, based on my

Re: [slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Mitch Harding
I feel like if you're not willing to give Slim the benefit of the doubt here, you'll only be hurting yourself. It remains to be seen how all of this will turn out.On 10/26/06, MikeWynneDub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Craig;149967 Wrote: I would not dream of having any Logitech equipment near my

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread JJZolx
Joe Craig;149967 Wrote: I would not dream of having any Logitech equipment near my stereo. So ... the logo on the box is more important than the quality of the sound coming out of the box? You can hear the sound coming out of the box when it's sitting on the shelf at Wal-Mart? I hate to

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread MikeWynneDub
JJZolx;149976 Wrote: We're not talking about the logo, but the perception of the company behind that logo. My impression of Logitech is that they make very nice $30 mice. But it's damned hard to screw up a $30 mouse. The rest of their products that I've been exposed to have been

Re: [slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Mitch Harding
I'm curious which of their other products you've tried.Me, I have a higher-end mouse from them (I forget the cost, probably closer to $80 than $30), a web cam, and a game controller. I find all three to be quality products that do exactly what they advertise. I don't know how their support is,

Re: [slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Joe Craig
But the point I was trying to make is, based on my experience of Logitech products, I would not even contemplate buying an 'audio' product from an outfit like Logitech. Just for the sake of argument ... how much experience did you have with Slim Devices products before purchasing a product from

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread MikeWynneDub
Mitch Harding;149981 Wrote: I'm curious which of their other products you've tried. On 10/26/06, JJZolx JJZolx.2gas7n1161887103 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: We're not talking about the logo, but the perception of the company behind that logo. My impression of

Re: [slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Mitch Harding
Why do you think they would do those things when it would likely result in far fewer sales? Presumably they purchased SD based on their audiophile reputation. It seems unlikely to me that they would soil it. I'm guessing they'll leave SD to operate themselves as long as they turn good profits. On

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread CardinalFang
Mitch Harding;149977 Wrote: I feel like if you're not willing to give Slim the benefit of the doubt here, you'll only be hurting yourself. It remains to be seen how all of this will turn out. The point to me is that we all know Slim and it has an certain reputation for high quality sound,

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread MikeWynneDub
Mitch Harding;14 Wrote: Why do you think they would do those things when it would likely result in far fewer sales? Presumably they purchased SD based on their audiophile reputation. It seems unlikely to me that they would soil it. I'm guessing they'll leave SD to operate

Re: [slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Mitch Harding
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't care if I am a member of a select club or not, I don't care about the label on the front -- for me, it is about the music. I'm going to wait and see. I'm happy with the products I have, and I'm looking forward to seeing what the future brings. On

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread jbuccino
I disagree with the statement that Logitech will ruin Slimdevices. In fact the evidence seems to indicate just the opposite. I was an early adopter of the Harmony product (before their acquisition by Logitech). I thought it was the best universal remote on the market and the software capability

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Jon
Sigh ... I promised myself I was going to stay out of the is the acquisition good or bad discussion, but I just can't resist. I am not an audiophile, but I have a fairly extensive CD collection (800 of them), a decent amp and speakers, and 4 Squeezeboxes. When I decided to rip all my CDs and go

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread MikeWynneDub
Jon;150009 Wrote: Sigh ... P.S. What finally convinced me to go with the Squeezebox was the Slim Devices Community Forums :-) Yes, it has to be said - the SD forums rule... Bring on SB4! - I hope It'll be a knockout... -- MikeWynneDub

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread RiccardoR
I agree totally with jbuccino. Anyone remember the Harmony remotes before the Logitech acquisition? Wich is the direction: better look, new functions, a developing software (Yes, far from being at the best), new products (the 1000) and a relatively lower price (do You know the price of Philips

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread smc2911
RiccardoR;150044 Wrote: Anyone remember the Harmony remotes before the Logitech acquisition? Wich is the direction: better look, new functions, a developing software (Yes, far from being at the best), new products (the 1000) and a relatively lower price (do You know the price of Philips

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Nostromo
Although I was looking at Harmony remotes for a long time, I didn't take the plunge until after the Logitech buyout. I now have the 880 and love the remote but hate the (web-based) software. I'd be curious to know whether the software was different pre-Logitech, or whether Logitech have

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread jbuccino
smc2911: In my opinion (having used the software both before and after the acquisition) the Harmony software is essentially unchanged. The one major improvement is the web access time - after the acquisition the access was much faster. Before the acquisition it was often unusable. The only

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Robster
smc2911;150048 Wrote: Although I was looking at Harmony remotes for a long time, I didn't take the plunge until after the Logitech buyout. I now have the 880 and love the remote but hate the (web-based) software. I'd be curious to know whether the software was different pre-Logitech, or

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread radish
The Harmony web interface is basically identical to the original pre-Logitech version. They did however just release a new setup application which runs outside of a browser. It looks feels much nicer although the actual mechanics of how it works are basically unchanged - think of it as a new

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread totoro
CardinalFang;149995 Wrote: Now if I'm an audiophile completely new to networked audio and walk into a store and see a LogiTech product and a Sonos product, I may think LogiTech do PC peripherals and PC sound is generally awful, so I think I'll take a look at this Sonos (or Sooloos)

[slim] Re: So Farewell Then, Slim Devices

2006-10-26 Thread Pale Blue Ego
As a longtime Pronto owner, I thought the web-based programming of the Harmony was a breeze in comparison. It makes a lot of sense - it's cross-platform, the list of devices is huge, and it keeps a copy of your configuration on the web server. These are all major improvements over the Pronto