That is too bad. Did you try to get help from these mailing lists? There are many helpful users here...On 10/26/06, GregP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Wow,Good luck...I'm in the process of sending my squeezbox back
becauase I was unable to get Slimserver to work even with some customersupport...I
I, on the other hand, would purchase Microsoft hifi if it sounded good. The label doesn't affect the sound.On 10/26/06, P Floding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:That is the way it works in the connoisseur arena. And there is nothing
level-headed people can do about it, no matter how logical
Human nature is a strange thing.
You hit the nail on the head.
For me, I'm already in the club. Unless Audio Research, Classe or Theta
builds something similar, I'll probably buy a Transporter. Just please
don't name it LogSqueeze.
I liked your posting: while the message is the same as said
isn't Porsche just a Volkswagen (or therefore: Skoda!) with spoilers?
It's the same company, isn't it?
No, two completely separate companies, who have colaborated on occaision.
Skoda is owned by VW, as is Audi.
Tom
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:31:11AM -0700, rhymesgalore wrote:
Harry G;148941 Wrote:
I know that Mercedes today is made by Chrysler, whose cars we also
wouldn't buy, yet, the association doesn't bother me. Maybe because
they're so different.
Ouch, that hurt my german auto pride^^..
What ends? The unfounded doomsaying? I sure hope so!On 10/22/06, RadioClash
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:And so it ends.
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Here here.
Grammar-Nazi
It's HEAR HEAR, as in Oh my fellows, won't you unplug your ears and
hark unto the clear wisdom emanating from this person who is
speaking?
/Grammar-Nazi
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I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional
Media Streaming is clearing an up and coming
market and SD are not going to be able to continue forever on ripped
CDs as a source - CD is a dated format now and I'm sure the music
industry would dearly love to hasten its demise. Online music and DRM
is going to be the future whether we like it or
Unless it's a IR based device (limited functionality and not what
people want) or just a fancy Logitech/SD branded web tablet (i.e. a
crippled 770), it's going to have to have some kind of proprietory
software if it's going to be as slick as, and compete with, the Sono's.
What does proprietary
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and all you
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and
PhilNYC wrote:
Jetlag;147912 Wrote:
2. FLAC support in perpetuity (unless something better AND also free
comes along in the interim)?
With the never-ending price drops in hard drive prices, why not just
rip to WAV files and not worry about FLAC?
Because WAV files don't support tagging.
Quoting CardinalFang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ultimately, I would tend to agree with you, I don't see a Transporter 2
in the future.
I'd agree with you there as well. However, I would say that this was
still the case for me a week ago. Transporter is a BIG leap from SB3,
in technology and
On 10/19/06, Lowrent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and theservice stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...For me, hi-fi and music are about sound, not the logo on the box. If you knew the quality was the same, why
Quoting Jetlag [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It would really be great if Sean or Junien would comment on some of the
concerns that have been raised in this thread since the announcement.
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
oh good lord. that's just too
On 10/20/06, nicketynick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Jetlag;148239 Wrote: Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?Talk about throwing down the gauntlet!I wonder if anybody will takethe bait?Actually, I sincerely hope that both of them have better things
I agree completely.On 10/20/06, Kevin O. Lepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and theservice stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-figear...That's just silly.
A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would you
Quoting CardinalFang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
.
You've just described the audiophile market :-)
Doesn't really fit with me. Sure, it's the joke, but any company
making audiophile gear had to start somewhere. Any name is made or
broken on the quality of their gear. Calling yourself TacT
Quoting CardinalFang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
.
You've just described the audiophile market :-)
Again, we're back to the Slim Devices name having value.
I agree that Slim Devices has earned some street cred.
Now Logitech will have the gear to bring value to their name in new
markets as well.
Why would you hesitate to buy a Transporter due to the Logitech deal? The one you get will doubtless still say SD on it...On 10/20/06, mauidj
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Personally I do fear for the core values of SD and I am currently
holding my finger over the buy now button for a new Transporter.I
Even if they never release another version of Slimserver, your Transporter will continue to work. If there are any show stopping bugs and if, for some reason, SD decides not to fix them, you can bet that the community will try to do so.
I dunno -- that reasoning just doesn't make sense to me. If I
-What will happen to openness in regard to platforms and data
It's been mentioned before: SQN is running on Linux (or even BSD?) -
they'll have to further support *x systems if they want to continue SQN.
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I think this is good news - what Slim needed to progress to mass market was more RD investment, access to mainstream, global, distribution and cheaper manufacturing costs to get the end product price down.All of that should come with Logitech. They're one of the high end aftermarket peripheral
Congratulations!
I see no immediate impact on my own Slim relationship, but note happily
that this deal just possibly might be a beachhead into mainstream
consumption of electronic gadgets, for a heavily open sourced community
product development participation model. Hopefully more mainstream
I hope Logitech understands what they have bought.
If you're interested in a postive example, I'm assuming that Logitec
purchased Harmony, and that's why the remotes are named Logitec
Harmony.
For me, congratulations to the Slim Devices people!
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kdf wrote:
From the working side of the picture, I can certainly imagine that
expanding user base with the existing small club will be crippling.
As is often the case, kdf's comment is among the most insightful
among the chatter. The one thing I fear about this change is
Was Harmony open source prior to the acquisition by Logitech? If not, it seems like apples and oranges, as far as that goes.On 10/19/06, tamanaco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mitch G;147743 Wrote: One final thought, I always forget that Harmony is owned by Logitech. In other words, they are Harmony
davep wrote:
2. The Transporter is my second area of concern. I can see how the SB3
might fit into a Logitech product line-up as they are obviously moving
into that area, but not the Transporter - it just not feel like a match
for a company founded on mice and keyboards. And, as others have
I think the trepidation you have shouldn't stop you from buying a Transporter. Why? Because even if they never release another update to Slimserver, you have a working product. This product works with FLAC. I certainly hope Slim keeps up with the excellent work they have been doing, but if they
On 10/19/06, Jetlag
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. DRM - I don't own and iPod or Zune because of it (nor do I use
iTunes, Rhapsody, etc as I refuse to pay $1 for a lossy crappy sounding
MP3 song | Your opinion may be different). I don't illegally trade or
sell my music, but once I buy a CD, I
Even if they do remove FLAC support (which I tend to doubt), you still have a working product now -- just don't download version 8.5 (or whatever one removes the feature that you want)...
On 10/19/06, Robert_W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jetlag;147847 Wrote: I was just getting ready to order a
It's not anything definitive, but yesterday when someone expressed concern that Slim would stop supporting Linux, Sean tried to reassure them by pointing out that Squeezenetwork itself runs on Linux. That comment would be a little misleading if Sean knew that there were plans to kill off
Wow, that's not my experience at all. I've had several mice from them and one webcam, and all of them performed well and were good values for the money. Not sure about support since I've never had to call it for my Logitech products.
On 10/19/06, Mark Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:This is bad
I don't think the RIAA really worries much about FLAC. If they were go to go after anything, it would be MP3. FLAC is used by so few people that I doubt it's causing anyone to lose any sleep.
On 10/19/06, Robert_W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jeffluckett;147863 Wrote: Just curious ... but what
Even if the digital music is lossless and not DRMed? If so, what is the rationale? I'm just curious -- not trying to be argumentative.On 10/19/06, Kevin O. Lepard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But what happens when you can no longer buy aphysical CD and we're all having to download our media
I don't think Logitech would be selling $1k Harmony remotes if the only market they cared about was $99 players...On 10/19/06, thaumaturge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, Sean and the boys cashed out. I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
Good for them. Better to take the offer now before the SB
But what happens when you can no longer buy a physical CD
and we're all having to download our media digitally?
Then I quit buying music. Sad, but that is what I will do.
Even if the digital music is lossless and not DRMed? If so, what
is the rationale? I'm just curious -- not trying to
You could be right that they will go that route and try to force people into DRM. I can't imagine them getting rid of CDs and then not giving us a lossless option, but I can definitely seem them trying to force us down the DRM path.
However, I have a feeling that in the long run fair use will win
With the never-ending price drops in hard drive prices, why not just
rip to WAV files and not worry about FLAC?
erm ... cos FLAC has tags ... and if you save 40% of hard disk space ...
FLAC does make a difference when you have lots of tracks ...
On 10/19/06, Nostromo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading some of the posts in this thread, you'd believe that it wasWall-Mart, and not Logitech, that bought Slimdevices.
+1. There are have been a large number of simply obnoxious posts the last few days from some people who have somehow associated
Do you expect that your products will be marketed under the SlimDevices
brand or the Logitech brand?
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CardinalFang wrote:
In that case, I would guess that in order to match the higher profile
and wider consumer appeal that you would want to acquire, products like
SlimServer have to break out of the more tech-led user base it has so
far and develop a more consumer-friendly look and feel?
I
I feel the same way. I had some trepidation initially, but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Now I still need to somehow get the money for a Transporter. :)
On 10/18/06, Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's be fair to Sean, Slim, and Logitech.It seems premature tocomplain at this
Actually I am not sure I see a dicotomy between tech-led development
and user-friendliness. In fact I was personally impressed about the
ease of installation and of use of my Squeeze Box. The user interface
of the Slim Server could probably become more consumer oriented. Yet
this is not a
Quoting radish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My major concern is that the desire for people to pitch in and help
with the software will dry up as Logitech can surely afford to hire as
many devs as they need and everyone knows it. Slimserver wouldn't be
what it is now if it were a purely in-house product.
On 10/18/06, shvejk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...Oh, no. Must get my Transporter fast, before they change the logo. It isCorporate America is focused on maximizing profits. Build your product
as cheaply as possible. Sell as much as possible. Ignore your customersas much as the laws allow you to.
On 18-Oct-06, at 8:08 PM, joncourage wrote:
Not exactly like the Forum got some great advance scoop (and that
probably wouldn't even
be legal since Logi is publicly traded).
time of post was about 2pm pacific. time of that article 9:57 pm ET
so that's about 5 hours by my count. Fairly
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