pfarrell;351320 Wrote:
Different market. Its an audiophile product. A lot of those guys don't
accept that remotes are good.
I didn't know that. My Naim pre-amp had a remote and I though they were
generally considered a good thing now.
Audiophiles are a strange bunch. One of the great things
I'm sure that their inclusion was an error (much like the omission of a
usable headphone socket for the Boom).
I suggest you spend some time looking up the old threads discussing the
wish list for future products around the time that the Transporter was
in development (go back as much as
The transporter is totally overengineered. The front panel is useless
for most , the double display is not of any great use.
The price break tween a TP and a SB is rediculous. The TP coulda had
the better dac and all the features of the TP for far far less. To pay
huge amounts extra for
None of this diatribe is helping those of us who may have hard or soft
bugs with their 'Knobs'
The Transporter is what it is, the aesthetics and ergonomics are a
subjective issue. I like knobs and buttons and I'm very happy that the
Transporter has some!
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TheRooster2000;350991 Wrote:
Hey, I accidentally found this older thread.
That's just the same way in which my Transporter's knob behaves!
I'm new to Transporter and thought that this behaviour is normal and I
was a bit disappointed about the imprecise feeling of the knob...
So is this
Is it actually physically slipping, or is the feedback just not done
very well?
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Jim
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Hi all!
Today I pulled the aluminum knob off the force-feedback-device's axle.
It fits very tight onto the axle and is fixed with some kind of steel
leaf spring which is screwed inside the knob.
So that's why it's impossible for the knob to slip and there's no need
to glue it with cyanoacrylate.
I've recently upgraded to a Transporter and I must admit to being a more
than disappointed with the 'Knob'.
Played with it a few times but, it feels a little lumpy, notchy and
imprecise to me. Is this normal behavior or have other users had a more
pleasurable experience?
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norman12;351268 Wrote:
I must admit to being a more than disappointed with the 'Knob'. Played
with it a few times but, it feels a little lumpy
I'm amazed anyone feels the need to touch their knob. Why do you do it?
Have you not got a remote or a controller (or even heaven forbid, a
computer)?
ModelCitizen;351290 Wrote:
I'm amazed anyone feels the need to touch their knob. Why do you do it?
Have you not got a remote or a controller (or even heaven forbid, a
computer)?
If it felt better, I might use it. The button placements are also very
much less than ideal on the Transporter.
So would the consensus be; the 'Knob', while on paper seemed intriguing
in reality is a rather useless, partially functioning appendage?
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...my Transporter's knob even makes a ticking noise on every step when I
navigate up/down or left/right through the menus with the standard
remote... :-/
Christian
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norman12;351301 Wrote:
So would the consensus be; the 'Knob', while on paper seemed intriguing
in reality is a rather useless, partially functioning appendage?
I was very disappointed that the Transporter was produced with all that
useless and fragile extraneous paraphernalia... knobs,
ModelCitizen;351305 Wrote:
I was very disappointed that the Transporter was produced with all that
useless and fragile extraneous paraphernalia... knobs, buttons,... why?
Are we living in the 60s? How many people sit right next to their hifi
units anyway?
When you have a remote (and now a
norman12;351308 Wrote:
You've been busy - 2000 posts! I've made 41 in 3 years although I lurk
often.
Yes. Sometimes I think I should have stuck with the iPod.
MC
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ModelCitizen wrote:
I was very disappointed that the Transporter was produced with all that
useless and fragile extraneous paraphernalia... knobs, buttons,... why?
Different market. Its an audiophile product. A lot of those guys don't
accept that remotes are good.
pfarrell;351320 Wrote:
I was very disappointed that the Transporter was produced with all
that
useless and fragile extraneous paraphernalia... knobs, buttons,...
why?
Different market. Its an audiophile product. A lot of those guys don't
accept that remotes are good.
What a load of
JJZolx wrote:
What a load of crap.
You are entitled to your opinion, but its just an opinion.
The audiophile market is not at all similar to the mass market.
If anything, a cynic might say the extra
paraphernalia was added to increase the perceived value and justify the
price point.
No audiophile mud slinging in the General Discussion section please;-)
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pfarrell;351329 Wrote:
Audiophile do not use features to justify price points.
That's probably right. But audiophiles didn't design the Transporter.
That same cynic would say it was the designers of the Transporter that
felt a need to put the doodads on an expensive unit targeted at that
That's probably right. But audiophiles didn't design the Transporter.
That same cynic would say it was the designers of the Transporter that
felt a need to put the doodads on an expensive unit targeted at that
market.
Jim,
I don't understand why you post so often when you are clearly so
pfarrell;351334 Wrote:
I don't understand why you post so often when you are clearly so
unhappy.
What it is this time, Pat?
I don't understand why you post so often, apparently for the sole
purpose of being able to view your opinions in a public forum.
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Jim
JJZolx wrote:
I don't understand why you post so often, apparently for the sole
purpose of being able to view your opinions in a public forum.
Or to correct your mistakes.
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JJZolx;351332 Wrote:
That's probably right. But audiophiles didn't design the Transporter.
That same cynic would say it was the designers of the Transporter that
felt a need to put the doodads on an expensive unit targeted at that
market.
It seems obvious from the resulting design that
kdf;351342 Wrote:
It seems obvious from the resulting design that feedback was heard from
threads such as these:
I remember those threads quite well. They were a lot of fun, and I was
thrilled to see the design of the Transporter take them to heart.
A true cynic would suggest that your
JJZolx wrote:
I don't feel I'm being negative, just stating what others have
apparently also observed.
You are being silly, argumentative and negative.
Give it a break
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On 19-Oct-08, at 4:01 PM, JJZolx wrote:
kdf;351342 Wrote:
It seems obvious from the resulting design that feedback was heard
from
threads such as these:
I remember those threads quite well. They were a lot of fun, and I
was
thrilled to see the design of the Transporter take them to
Audiotic;195169 Wrote:
(...) When I turn my TransNav knob, it seems to have some room, it can
move a little bit beyond the stop points, sometime like one stop more.
And I am not forcing it!
It actually is annoying, as the feel of the lists you are browsing is
not very firm, almost like
This'll be interesting. Does anyone else use Pat Farrel's knob?
MC
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in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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