jimzak wrote:
However, I would be interested in the alternatives that are out there
for hi-fi networked music aside from Sonos.
In my opinion, if we look at what's available now:
*For audiophiles:*
Base your system on a solution from your favorite HiFi manufacturer, you
can probably
Tricky tricky , I fit all off Erlands user categories at the same time !
i must be a squeezebox user :) .
Now i'm just chilling with my boom ,later I fill my whole apartment with
music synced ,and later on I will use my hifi to enjouy serius SQ using
one player .
But i'm not in need of over
My alternatives:
Weiss MAN301 (!!)
Aurender S10 + DAC (preferrable EMM)
PS Audio PerfectWave DAC II + Bridge
Aurality L1000
SOtM sMS-1000
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jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
Now that Logitech has destroyed the Squeezebox product line,will someone
with the capabilities of Sean Adams
pick up the pieces and continue to develop this product?What is the
likelihood of that?
Slim Devices rises from the ashes?
I don't think this is the
Hi guys
If there is any assistance I can provide drop me a line through my
website. I dont plan on going anywhere and will continue to support my
plugins for the foreseeable future :)
Cheers
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Mnyb wrote:
We need to fix the My apps menu to work without mysqueezebox.com .
I have two local apps , triodes spotify and mhergers bandcamp , these
are local plugins but their UI resides in my apps .
If the conection with mysb.com breaks I have observed that this menu is
totally empty
garym wrote:
I would definitely pay a one-time or annual fee for future squeezebox
related services. This would include helping (financially) to maintain a
squeezebox community forum on the web.
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Triode wrote:
I think its premature to be panicking about this - I will definitely be
expecting to maintain support for my BBCiPlayer and Spotify plugins to
work with my ip3k based transporter and other players + touch (or
emulators..). If Logi does pull the plug then I see a community fork
Ouch.
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I am sure they are feeling really happy at the moment.
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Thanks to all for numerous and quick responses. I finally got it
working, even though Im still unsure what exactly caused the problem.
I first replaced my WRT54GL router with an old crappy Zyxel and forced
the SB Classic back to factory settings (holding + while powering off
and on). Everything
A think a few other companies make similar products too.
Do they have some sort of licensing deal with Logitech?
I wonder if companies like this could actually help keep the SB alive in
some way?
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Labarum wrote:
That's all I need to know - thanks.
My Squeezeboxes will work for a good few years yet, I hope. If I see
second hand stuff at the right price I might be tempted to buy some
spares - but didn't the Boom go up in price after being discontinued?
That happened to receivers too
I looked into both Olive and MusicCast before coming to SB. Both
systems were:
- closed source
- limited features
- almost no customization
- very limited offered services / subscriptions
- minimal codec support
- big, clunky, ugly boxes (worse than Sonos ;))
- no players to utilize the
I do not care about open/closed source unless it is properly supported.
There are many open source projects that it is just a facade and a
mechanism to not doing any kind of proper support and commitment.
Open source projects frequently lack any kind of roadmap and what's
actually assures you in
Denon's entry looks good:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?CatId=StreamingMedia(DenonNA)PId=DNP720AE(DenonNA)
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Denon url is dead.
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i will continue to use my SB products, which have given such enjoyment
over the years
my next system already sits alongside my digital
brethren.the mighty Linn Sondek LP12
I considered purchasing Linn's digital offerings years ago, but they
were in an early stage of
toby10 wrote:
Denon url is dead.
Addendum: I don't understand why this URL does not work because when I
go to the product page via Google, this is the URL.
Anyway Google DNP720AE
?!
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Addendum: I don't understand why this URL does not work because when I
go to the product page via Google, this is the URL.
Anyway Google DNP720AE
?!
It's caused by forum software skipping the last ) in the url, the
correct URL is:
Here are 77 pages of music players, most of which are not applicable to
our situation, but interesting:
http://www.techfresh.net/tech-gadgets/music-players/
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Denon's entry looks good:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?CatId=StreamingMedia(DenonNA)PId=DNP720AE(DenonNA)
DLNA wonder what server you should choose for that , migth influence the
actual experience of it a bit .
You could use LMS + whitebear if on
Mnyb wrote:
As for controll on iSomething or Andriod what would be good ?
The Kinsky iOS app from Linn is the best UPnP/DLNA controller I've seen,
no idea if it works with the Denon hardware, often there seems to be a
bit incompatibilities between UPnP devices from different
manufacturers.
While I'm not about to dump my Squeezeboxen anytime soon, one product
that I'm curious about is the AudioEngine D2. I'm not clear if you can
bypass the D2 Receiver's DAC to use your own, but the concept of a D2
Sender working with up to 3 D2 Receivers is intriguing. Might be worth
checking
mrfantasy wrote:
Let's be realistic, people. The idea of a dedicated music player is not
a mass-market item anymore
I never believed it was -- which is why I hated to see the Slim Devices
acquisition by Logitech.
Well isn't Sonos a mass market item ?
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Would you consider Sonos to be a mass market music player ?
No, but probably the closest thing there is too that. Think about it,
how many people do you know that have a Sonos? Or anything remotely
close to it (like SB)?
The only people I know (and I'm in many
Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
It is not dead yet, just has been told it has only two years to live and
that it won't be able to have any more children!
Two years is a long time in technology, not only will new products come
along but Logitech have time to
toby10 wrote:
No, but probably the closest thing there is too that. Think about it,
how many people do you know that have a Sonos? Or anything remotely
close to it (like SB)?
The only people I know (and I'm in many peoples homes/apartments) that
have a SB are those I introduced to SB.
toby10 wrote:
No, but probably the closest thing there is too that. Think about it,
how many people do you know that have a Sonos? Or anything remotely
close to it (like SB)?
The only people I know (and I'm in many peoples homes/apartments) that
have a SB are those I introduced to SB.
jimzak wrote:
. Anyway Google DNP720AE
Looks like a decent unit. But at $499 and such a large size I'd much
prefer a SB Touch with it's additional digital out, SD card, touch
screen, server access (I don't use iTunes nor do I own an Apple device),
and for $200 less. But then, I am a bit
mrfantasy wrote:
... the important thing is maintaining the Slim protocol and ensuring
new servers and clients can be developed to it.
--MikeWhy? Squeezebox will be a dead system. Other systems will come along
to replace and supersede it, maybe not immediately but within a couple
of years
mdconnelly wrote:
While I'm not about to dump my Squeezeboxen anytime soon, one product
that I'm curious about is the AudioEngine D2. I'm not clear if you can
bypass the D2 Receiver's DAC to use your own, but the concept of a D2
Sender working with up to 3 D2 Receivers is intriguing. Might
TheLastMan wrote:
Why? Squeezebox will be a dead system.
Because the slim protocol does work pretty damn well. I for one will not
regress do DLNA or this kind of nonsense. Maybe future versions of
airplay or the elusive android@home protocols will be able to supersede
it. But given the niche
epoch1970 wrote:
I often wondered about this. So you say the SBs are rarely spotted. Do
you see many Sonos systems (in absolute terms) ?
I have four friends with Sonos and two who bought Squeezebox. Two bought
the Sonos on my recommendation (I was having a hard time with SB at the
time) and
Thanks.
TheLastMan wrote:
Last time we went to a BBQ there he showed off his new Bluetooth radio
thingy which was happily playing music from the iPhone in his pocket.
I've seen that too.
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epoch1970 wrote:
Because the slim protocol does work pretty damn well. I for one will not
regress to DLNA or this kind of nonsense. Maybe future versions of
airplay or the elusive android@home protocols will be able to supersede
it.
I haven't lost hope that Logitech will develop the UE
epoch1970 wrote:
Thanks.
I've seen that too.
Yeah I attached my iPhone to a Bluetooth speaker once and I heard more
boings
from emails,text messages and other notifications then music .
jhonsber...@msn.com's
My next system will be the replacement Touch I just ordered in case my
current one dies. ;)
I don't use any online services, don't even do multi-room syncing; just
play my local library. The only features I use are new music and
random. I reckon I've got years before I need to worry about a
TheLastMan wrote:
I think you will quickly find that most people will move on. For 99% of
buyers music streaming does not have to be as complicated as Squeezebox
made it.Agreed.
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
Yeah I attached my iPhone to a Bluetooth speaker once and I heard more
boings
from
epoch1970 wrote:
I often wondered about this. So you say the SBs are rarely spotted. Do
you see many Sonos systems (in absolute terms) ?
Very rarely do I see Sonos in use, I think I've come across two in my
travels. But a I've seen many Sonos systems at retail stores, US and
abroad.
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
Would you consider Sonos to be a mass market music player ?
Nope.
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Very rarely do I see Sonos in use, I think I've come across two in my
travels. But a I've seen many Sonos systems at retail stores, US and
abroad.
agree. I only know one person that has a sonos. Almost everyone I know
is an ipod/iphone in a speaker doc person. My friends
DareVanReed wrote:
i'm not sure what changed internally in the code between the two
versions, but everything seems to be ok now for me, so i'm happy.
thanks again for the brilliant little daemon, ralphy.
I've replaced the portaudio calls to Pa_AbortStream with Pa_StopStream
for the STOP
I got the cue to search for this from another related thread:
Linn DS players
http://www.linn.co.uk/systems/all-products/linn-ds
I'm sure they are not cheap.
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benno wrote:
When the squeezeplaying hangs, I could still play stuff directly with
aplay and the same ALSA-destination used in squeezeslave.
This is related to the used hardware, the USB-amps just accept this
rate...
Is there a way to debug this?
aplay doesn't manipulate the ALSA
We are in no hurry to replace our systems yet , I expect to use years to
contemplate the issue .
And my replacement would be some product not yet existing for natural
reasons .
The current situation is very similar to what it was when i opted for
squeezeboxes in 2006 sans squeezeboxes :-/
The
jimzak wrote:
I got the cue to search for this from another related thread:
Linn DS players
http://www.linn.co.uk/systems/all-products/linn-ds
I'm sure they are not cheap.
looking at akurate ds, klimax ds, sneaky ds, etc. it is hard to find a
price online with a quick look, but one will
A better link to the complete soolos offerings .
http://www.meridian-audio.com/sooloos/the-components.php
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toby10 wrote:
Very rarely do I see Sonos in use, I think I've come across two in my
travels. But a I've seen many Sonos systems at retail stores, US and
abroad.
I know only one person irl that have either , me ? Never seen a live
Sonos system and actually never anyone elses Squeezebox
The Cocktail Audio x10 gets good reviews and user feedback - rubbish
name, 'though.
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I know only one person irl that have either , me ? Never seen a live
Sonos system and actually never anyone elses Squeezebox system either .
I'm rudimentary sociable and able to make friends ;) so it is not that
I'm an isolated geek that only know 1 person irl.
I know one
IIRC a company called Grace has a wide range of internet players, tho
I know nothing about the quality.
Craig
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I know only one person irl that have either , me ? Never seen a live
Sonos system and actually never anyone elses Squeezebox system either .
I'm rudimentary sociable and able to make friends ;) so it is not that
I'm an isolated geek that only know 1 person irl.
It must be
I have a specific requirement - to run the PowerSwitchII plugin to
control the power amps. So yesterday I snapped up an SB3 on eBay for 90
quid as a backup for my Transporter. If the TP ever dies, the SB3 will
replace it, partnered with a suitable DAC that has balanced outputs. All
of my
TheLastMan wrote:
It must be because most of the people I mix with are a lot richer than
me!
The guys who bought the Sonos systems all like their toys.
All of my iphone/ipod stuck in a speaker doc friends are easily
one-percenters. I don't see any correlation between income/wealth and
chenrikson wrote:
IIRC a company called Grace has a wide range of internet players, tho
I know nothing about the quality.
Craig
You're going to encounter the mysteries of Reciva taking this route!
castalla's
Mnyb wrote:
A better link to the complete soolos offerings .
http://www.meridian-audio.com/sooloos/the-components.php
The Media Core 600 component goes for £6000 :)
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Hello,
I searched the web and can not find solution.
I set the Tasker to open SqueezeCommander when the phone is connected to
home WIFI. What I want to achieve is SqueezeCommander to play a specific
radio station from my favorites list when connected to home WIFI and
turn off Boom when
Just an case anyone -is- thinking of buying a hifi streamer, be aware
that many don't support gapless playback.
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Likewise. I'm more than happy to contribute financially to keep SB maintenance
going, if not new development. I'm a software engineer professionally, so I'd
also be willing to contribute that way as well, if someone else is organizing
things
--
Mitch!!!
http://blog.mitcharf.com/
I don't want
jimzak wrote:
The Media Core 600 component goes for £6000 :)
He exactly , a thing soolos got rigth is an optional very large Touch
screen (larger than any pad i seen ), wonder if should pass my Meridian
delar and ask if it does gapless
Wonder if you really need the media core component in
Crazy Forbidden via SB but loud and clear on PC.
Why?
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Mnyb wrote:
I download copies here .
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/
Touch is called Fab4 in the firmware files and Radio is called Baby
Any guess what the difference between fab4.bin, and fab4x.x.x r.bin
is?
Benefactor wrote:
Any guess what the difference between fab4.bin, and fab4x.x.x r.bin
is?
They should be the same.
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They should be the same.
So you would want the file version that is in the folder that matches
the version of LMS that you are currently running on your host
computer?
(sorry if that is a dumb and/or overly obvious question)
Works for me, just checked. Not all of the channels are up on the
Internet Radio national networks list, but the most recent set aren't
there yet (e.g. Canadian Roots),and the CBC folks are blaming Logitech.
But most work fine if you have a Canadian IP address. My work computer
is networked
Hmmm? I'm trying to find the CBC On Demand stuff - particularly
Concerts.
Any ideas?
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Benefactor wrote:
So you would want the file version that is in the folder that matches
the version of LMS that you are currently running on your host computer?
Yes.
But doesn't your server have access to the internet? If so, it should
download the correct firmware files and you should be
I was upgrading my car stereo yesterday, and the guy showed me a new
receiver (house not car) that was networked into the shop network. You
could see music folders on computers, and play the files. Including
playlists. Don't know limitations, but was certainly a way to access a
library. Did not
JJZolx wrote:
Yes.
But doesn't your server have access to the internet? If so, it should
download the correct firmware files and you should be automatically
prompted on the Touch to begin the upgrade.
I'm just being OCD, and grabbing whatever files I think might be useful
to have archives
rbz5416 wrote:
Just an case anyone -is- thinking of buying a hifi streamer, be aware
that many don't support gapless playback.
Exactly. One concern with DLNA is that gapless playback is optional,
not required. Support for gapless is needed in both the server and
renderer for gapless
Ah, that might be different. The old OPML list doesn't work, but you
might be able to see the URL from a regular computer stream. I thought
I had done this but can't replicate just now. The channels work though.
Ron
I plan on using my SLIM DEVICES TRANSPORTER for as long as long as it is
operational.I have a spare that is rarely
used to replace this one .The Transporters will run LMS for as long as
the devices are operational for my local library
which is about 600 GB's and climbing.
I have bought a Sonos
If SB is connected to mysb.com then I think it been broken for a while
due to geo ip locking.
See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94353-CBC-app-broken
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If SB is connected to mysb.com then I think it been broken for a while
due to geo ip locking.
See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94353-CBC-app-broken
Seems bizarre - not blocked via PC but locked via mysb.com!
I still can't find any listings for CBC On Demand ...
It certainly is a minefield out there. I stumbled upon the NAD C 446
streamer, thinking if Anyine could get it right, NAD could.
Great press reviews, the user reviews tell a different story:
http://nadelectronics.com/user-reviews/822
Ironic that when researching alternatives one is often sent
Benefactor wrote:
I'm just being OCD, and grabbing whatever files I think might be useful
to have archives of later on.
:)
Code:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
# SliMP3 Server Copyright (C) 2001 Sean Adams, Slim Devices Inc.
I would not trust Logitech to do anything more then they think is
legally required with mysqueezebox.
That means the warranty of the last large volume of Squeezeboxes will
determine how long mysqueezebox
will last . A year or two is my guess.
Since my office only uses mysqueezebox as we hae
garym wrote:
All of my iphone/ipod stuck in a speaker doc friends are easily
one-percenters. I don't see any correlation between income/wealth and
willingness to invest in quality audio (either now, the 1980s, or the
1960s for that matter).
With the greatest respect, that is rather a daft
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
What a coup for Sonos this is gonna be.
Not really, I doubt Sonos have considered SB to be a much of a threat
since the Touch was released. Sonos have pretty much had the field to
themselves. The reviews for the Touch were stellar over here, but I
have never
TheLastMan wrote:
With the greatest respect, that is rather a daft statement. Willingness
to invest is one thing, *ability* to invest is entirely another.
If you want to install a whole house audio system made by Sonos, you
need a bit of cash lying around. Most people can afford a couple of
TheLastMan wrote:
Not really, I doubt Sonos have considered SB to be a much of a threat
since the Touch was released. Sonos have pretty much had the field to
themselves. The reviews for the Touch were stellar over here, but I
have never known such a good product have so little marketing.
bwaldron wrote:
I never believed it was -- which is why I hated to see the Slim Devices
acquisition by Logitech.
So based on this assessment,which I believe is completely correct,does
Sean Adams have some culpability in the demise of the Squeezebox by
selling a small niche product to
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
So based on this assessment,which I believe is completely correct,does
Sean Adams have some culpability in the demise of the Squeezebox by
selling a small niche product to Logitech,a mass market driven company
,due to the fact is was never a right fit?
Calling
Jeff52 wrote:
Culpability? Does that not connote some sort of moral blameworthiness as
it relates to criminal or immoral behavior? Sheesh give me a break.
Sheesh give me a break .I'm not implying any criminal or immoral
behavior here.
Maybe they thought it was the right fit .Who knows.
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
Sheesh give me a break .I'm not implying any criminal or immoral
behavior here.
Maybe they thought it was the right fit .Who knows.
So what was your point then?
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Jeff52 wrote:
So what was your point then?
The point is in hindsight ,the sale of Slim devices to Logitech was a
terrible fit .
Would you or anyone on this forum disagree with that ? Would a single
top exec from Slim Devices disagree with that ?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
The point is in hindsight ,the sale of Slim devices to Logitech was a
terrible fit .
Would you or anyone on this forum disagree with that ? Would a single
top exec from Slim Devices disagree with that ?
I have no idea whether it was a terrible fit or not, nor
Jeff52 wrote:
I have no idea whether it was a terrible fit or not, nor do you or I or
anyone else know whether the company would have prospered if not sold to
Logitech. I simply took issue with your reference to Sean Adams and
culpability in the context of this discussion.
Well we know it
Yes we do and that has nothing to do with any culpability of Sean
Adams.
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Jeff52 wrote:
Yes we do and that has nothing to do with any culpability of Sean
Adams.
Slim devices and it's management did sell the company to Logitech .
Sadly, it hasn't worked out too well .
jhonsber...@msn.com's
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
Jeff52 wrote:
Yes we do and that has nothing to do with any culpability of Sean
Adams.
Slim devices and it's management did sell the company to Logitech .
Sadly, it hasn't worked out too well .
No disagreement by me or anyone else. I'm pleased you
castalla wrote:
Seems bizarre - not blocked via PC but locked via mysb.com!
I still can't find any listings for CBC On Demand ...
I did have a conversation with a CBC guy. They have definitely
geo-fenced the CBC Music streams ( the 40 odd channels of various music
genres), but have not done
When you are in business, you are not typically there solely for the
benefit of the broader world. You may well have an interest in doing
good for some segment of that world, but the business is your living.
You have to make decisions about what to do with the business from time
to time. Most
Jeff52 wrote:
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
No disagreement by me or anyone else. I'm pleased you are no longer
asserting this to any culpability of Mr. Adams.
I never did assert this to any culpability of Sean Adams . If you
look at the post clearly, it was posed in the form of
Ok, if it's really a question then my answer is absolutely not. The SD
guys had every right to sell and are in no ways culpable for Logitech
failing to run with it. The idea that they might be guilty parties
strikes me as truly bizarre.
aubuti wrote:
Ok, if it's really a question then my answer is absolutely not. The SD
guys had every right to sell and are in no ways culpable for Logitech
failing to run with it. The idea that they might be guilty parties
strikes me as truly bizarre.
I agree with you generally but the
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
Jeff52 wrote:
I never did assert this to any culpability of Sean Adams . If you
look at the post clearly, it was posed in the form of a question ,
wasn't it ? I wanted to hear what some forum members felt about this
Horse hockey but at least you
A lot of touches out there. There might be some $$ in it to keep my
squeezebox alive after the last warranty expires. Either by Logitech or
someone who aquires the rights.
Time will tell.
J
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