EnochLight;254760 Wrote:
I completely disagree with this. It's a good value, but nowhere near
great. My iPhone has most of these features and then some. Sure it
costs $100 more but has a tremendous amount of flexibility and diverse
functions (as well as serves as a cell phone).
Thanks a lot for the e-mail, Dean -- it clarified a lot of things for
me, and I'm definitely excited about the new products. Keep up the
great work.
On Jan 5, 2008 9:49 PM, dean blackketter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To clear up a little bit about the new product announcement.
There are two new
Please forgive me if this is posted in the incorrect location. I am
currently running four zones via a Zon audio system in my home. I am
seriously considering purchasing the Duet and plugging it in as one of
the music sources so I can access streaming Internet radio, networked
music files etc.
Does the Controller still have the expansion port that was on the beta
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Peter;254800 Wrote:
mvalera wrote:
One note about the SB Receiver, is that it requires the Controller
for
network setup. You can't just buy one on it's own. It's for adding
extra rooms.
Hi Michael,
How does the controller communicate with the SBR when the network
connection is
JJZolx, actually the knob seems to make its occasional buzzing sounds
regardless of whether or not it has been used. But we all really do
like the knob functionality (I personally like it very much), and would
hate to not be able to use it - as it is such a family-friendly
feature. Also, in the
would it be possible for a controller similar to the duet device to also
have a wireless receiver and a player device so it could be used as a
personal player within range of the wireless system of your home or
place of work?
I would guess not as the power requirements would be too high?
Mike.
Make the controller 100% compatible with SB3's and I'll buy the
controller.
I want to remain with my SB3's as the display on it can be read by all
when they walk past which is handy, the remote that is less likely as
I'll have it hidden somewhere so it doesn't get stolen by friend, foe
or family.
Great, now I can sell my Sonos system! (I use both Squeezebox and Sonos;
the Sonos is nice because I have the Remote always with me...)
My problem with the Sonos is that I cannot see more than 50,000 songs
and I do have more!
So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
mudlark;254843 Wrote:
would it be possible for a controller similar to the duet device to also
have a wireless receiver and a player device so it could be used as a
personal player within range of the wireless system of your home or
place of work?
The controller which is part of the
It's a shame there is no display on the receiver, everyone who passes
this house is impressed with seeing what is being played scrolling by.
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However, the real potential of the SqueezeBox Controller IMHO is the SD
slot and the headphone jack.
I can't really see why the headphone jack will be useful. I imagine that the
battery life of the controller won't be all that great (like a PDA with wifi
running all the time), and the device
Has anyone noticed a recent problems with the quality of BBC Radio 2 via
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be SB/amp or speakers but just checking it on the computer
(Softsqueeze)and same
So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
collection?
Duet is the bundled Receiver and Controller. I assume you're interested in the
Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but communicates with
SqueezeCenter. It will only keep those items in memory which
It's a shame there is no display on the receiver, everyone who passes
this house is impressed with seeing what is being played scrolling by.
Then buy a SB3 instead. It's not discontinued.
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Make the controller 100% compatible with SB3's and I'll buy the
controller.
It is. Get one ;-).
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I am pretty new to this so I would appreciate it if you could tell me
where to find that convert.conf file.
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Phil Meyer;254852 Wrote:
What's the main benefits of the SqueezeBox Controller over a PDA?The
interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is on
whatever device/platform I've tried it on).
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Price on the Squeezebox Controller is $299.99 US.
I find it quite hard to believe that the prices for Europe are exactly
the same in Euros as the american prices in Dollars. That means the
European version is about 40% too expensive. I guess I would not
hesitate buying
What's the main benefits of the SqueezeBox Controller over a PDA?
The Controller looks like any other handheld PC, similar to a PDA, but only has
one specific function? If the Controller is easier to use than eg the Handheld
skin on a PDA, then the price is justified, and I may consider buying
It appears to be a BBC problem - sounds just as bad via the website
(which I of course should have checked first!)
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all right. mine was using big endian too. changed it to little and now
it's working fine :)
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Phil Meyer;254852 Wrote:
What's the main benefits of the SqueezeBox Controller over a PDA?The
interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is on
whatever device/platform I've
macintoys.nl wrote:
Michael Herger;254857 Wrote:
So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
collection?[/color]
Duet is the bundled Receiver and Controller. I assume you're interested
in the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
There are stupendeus price hikes if one sees the European prices :-(
at
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/
Qucik calc for the swedish prices including 25% VAT:
399$*6.2031*1.25=3094 SEK
The suggested logitech price 3999 SEK (I hope this includes VAT)
I'm
Back in Nov I ported squeezeslave into the Controller as an experiment -
I was able to use the controller as a SB1 device (MP3)and play music at
the same time.
Some changes in Controller s/w has stopped this app from working but at
the time comments from dev group was that it was hope to
Are you sure? I hope so! But the controller and the receiver both have
64MB Ram. Isn't that used for indexing or so?
Receiver has 64M_b_ (8MB) which is used to buffer data and run decoders.
Controller has 64M_B_ of RAM. Indexing is done on SqueezeCenter. Thus library
size isn't limited by
The controller does not have/use a web GUI.
That said we would be very happy if somebody was able to implement a web
browser for it :-).
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Are you sure? I hope so! But the controller and the receiver both have
64MB Ram. Isn't that used for indexing or so?
The RAM is for adio buffers and in the case of the remote, a cache for
graphics sent from SqueezeCenter.
The Duet, SqueezeBox and Taransporter all
We have all brands of Mobile Phones,Ipods,Sidekicks,Nextels
phone,Laptops for sell at cheap and
affordable prices, they ranges from Nokia/Samsung/LG/Sony
Ericsson/Motorola/Alcatel/panasonic With Bluetooth, all
Brands and Models of Nextel Phones, we want you to get back
to us with your quote so
ModelCitizen;254855 Wrote:
The interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is on
whatever device/platform I've tried it on). The difference is chalk and
cheese.
MC
Can second that. When I looked at
Mnyb;254877 Wrote:
There are stupendeus price hikes if one sees the European prices :-(
at
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/
Qucik calc for the swedish prices including 25% VAT:
399$*6.2031*1.25=3094 SEK
The suggested logitech price 3999 SEK (I
The price hike in sweden is only 20% due to our higher VAT.
If take the sales tax in consideration you have only 20-30% to high
price, still evil :-/
But not off the scale as 40%
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Michael Herger;254857 Wrote:
So the question is: has the Duet enough memory to access my whole
collection?[/color]
Duet is the bundled Receiver and Controller. I assume you're interested
in the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
communicates with SqueezeCenter. It
I thought they said it doesnt support ad-hoc yet. I would need to be
running my own AP currently.
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The swedish price is actually 3999 SEK which is 644$
but never theless bs
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No infrared receiver listed for the new Receiver?
I suppose it does make sense since you would not be able to see the
menus - but it would have worked with Favourites on presets, volume,
mute, power.
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Could be used to shake forward the next song or next cover in the
window or something like that, as you have 3 directions it could be
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In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price hike
for UK buyers?
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Hi,
first of all congrats on the new hardware. Been following the
development for a while, and it is all very exiting news.
Question:
Does the controller work over normal TCP/IP ? So that it can connect
from any location ? Can it connect directly to the squeezenetwork ? Is
tunneling over SSH
AFAIK - controller will be available separate but a bit expensive
US$299.
Further potential for personal music is if the beta's expansion port
is still in the production unit. The beta's expansion port supports
USB although IIRC not many devices have been included in the kernel.
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Having looked at the web a bit more on this matter i can see there are a
few portable music servers including the nokia 810 770 and several
radio type devices such as the one from Roberts. I hadn't realised
that these were available. my understanding was that these devices were
internet only. In
I'll chip in my thoughts on the announcement. The controller looks nice
but I can't help thinking an iPod Touch would be more useful and have
greater capability for an existing SB3 owner. The current iPeng
interface that Pippin is developing is excellent and makes user of the
larger screen from
IMO properly enabling the headphone socket is a priority. At a stroke
this would make the controller a much better buy, and the duet package
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Peter;254796 Wrote:
Cool, I got one of my wishes/predictions, the 'blind' SB, now I'm still
waiting for the complement: A separate ethernet controlled display ;)
Regards,
Peter
Real Ethernet controlled displays are way to expensive now and will
stay so for a long time.
But with the
Does the controller work over normal TCP/IP ? So that it can connect
from any location ?
Yes.
Can it connect directly to the squeezenetwork ? Is
Yes.
tunneling over SSH possible?
Yes. Though you'll need a different machine to do the tunneling. But I wondered
when someone would come up
ModelCitizen wrote:
In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price hike
for UK buyers?
Er, I think your sums may have gone a little awry.
The big problem about making the Controller a SB type player is that
battery life will be minimal as music is streamed over Wifi - it is a
lot of traffic and Wifi is a big drain. When testing the audio I had
the Controller in its charging cradle.
In addition before audio out is considered -
ModelCitizen;254901 Wrote:
In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price hike
for UK buyers?
MC
None IMHO, but does the US price include
Oh well, back to my iPod then I guess
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I don't think the import part count's, sure it will if you import one
yourself.
But what duties are logitech paying ? and where are the product
manufactured, and what does it cost before markup when logitech imports
them into EU ? There migth be import cost's in the US price to.
Parrellell
Hello - good news!
I realised my own stupid mistake which was to leave tracing enabled on
the ODBC connector...so the disk access I was experiencing was in fact
Windows writing to the log file!.
Now tracing is off and the script does indeed work quickly.
Further good news...because the script
I am in the UK, is there anywhere (or any way) I can purchase the white
SqueezeBox?
Thanks
TerryHawkins
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Paul_B;254895 Wrote:
But at £220 that is too close to the selling price of an iPod Touch
16GB.
I was on the beta programme and I must admit, this mirrors my thoughts.
It's a potentially OK piece of kit, but at the suggested price, I would
spring for the iTouch, it can even do VoIP calls now
Phil Leigh;254920 Wrote:
Hello - good news!
I realised my own stupid mistake which was to leave tracing enabled on
the ODBC connector...so the disk access I was experiencing was in fact
Windows writing to the log file!.
Now tracing is off and the script does indeed work quickly.
Further
CardinalFang;254924 Wrote:
I was on the beta programme and I must admit, this mirrors my thoughts.
It's a potentially OK piece of kit, but at the suggested price, I would
spring for the iTouch, it can even do VoIP calls now on top of having
WiFi and an SDK for apps and the interface is much,
Am I alone in being slightly more excited about the SBR than the
Controller (which is lovely and I'm not putting it down). If the US
price of $149 converts (with VAT and duty) to around (preferably under)
£100, it starts to look like a reasonably affordable module with which
to build a rather
I have a similar problem.
I installed SqueezeCenter, selected no when it asked me if I wanted
to use itunes, but it scans my itunes music anyway. I wind up with two
copies of a lot of my music
Here's how my music folder is organized:
- c:\music\lossless (flac files)
- c:\music\converted
mvalera;254763 Wrote:
Enoch the price is the price. If you don't feel it's worth the money
we're asking, then you can feel free to vote with your wallet.
It's smaller, faster, cheaper and has more functionality than our
competitor's controller. We feel that we have priced it
Thanks for the list.
Maybe you could help me:
I'm trying to tune in CFOX (www.cfox.com) which also comes from
streamtheworld. It has the flash-url:
http://player.streamtheworld.com/CORUSENT/?CALLSIGN=CFOXFM
Does anyone know how to get the streaming url?
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Robin Bowes;254913 Wrote:
ModelCitizen wrote:
In the US the Duo costs 399.99 US Dollars (equiv. to 172.103 UK
Pounds)
but in the UK it costs 551.17 US Dollars (279 UK Pounds)
What possible justification can there be for this almost 40% price
hike
for UK buyers?
Er, I think your
I'm most interested in the controller, but the combo deal makes an
aditional reciver a consideration.
Id like to se the covers for my CD's andas it is backlit i can se it in
the dark.
If someone makes the headphone soccet in the controller work i'm happy
then I have a kitchen radio.I will hook it
erland;254797 Wrote:
So just to get this out of the way once for all.
Let's say I'm going to get a new SqueezeBox device, screen or not
doesn't matter, and it will be connected with analogue cables to the
amplifier.
If I'm looking for the best audio quality, but isn't ready to pay for a
I figured it out. I went to 'settings' 'extras' and disabled the iTunes
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erland wrote:
So just to get this out of the way once for all.
Let's say I'm going to get a new SqueezeBox device, screen or not
doesn't matter, and it will be connected with analogue cables to the
amplifier.
If I'm looking for the best audio quality, but isn't ready to pay for a
JimC wrote:
SB3 is still available and works a treat. If you don't feel that Duet
is worth it, you can still use the SB3 with the infrared remote or with
a Nokia 770/800, iPhone, etc. Duet is an extension to the product
family, providing in-hand control of all the SB/TP products in your
Looking at the prices, i cant understand why the controler is double the
price of the reciver!
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EnochLight;254948 Wrote:
Well that all depends on your ears and the quality of your amplifier
speakers you plan to hook it up to. If it's audiophile-grade and you
are the type of listener who tends to fixate on every nanosecond of
audio coming over the system, then the Squeezebox 3 has a
Skunk;254782 Wrote:
You could get a duet plus an Sb3, rather than spare receiver, though it
would be $150 more for the convenience of having the display and remote
in the third zone.
Personally I'd put the headless receiver in the kitchen and use the
shared graphical remote for setup and
Is lover than the SBR, and thats includes headphone amp and VFD etc, so
this already in the measurments ? and those noise figures is not good
compared to any dvd cd player.
But i think this is the rigth way anyway, the future is digital use the
digital output most people have some kind off HT
Mnyb;254908 Wrote:
None IMHO, but does the US price include sales tax, it's common EU
practice to anounce comsumer prices inluding taxes. US have diffent
sales tax in different states.
So it's maybe not 40% but anyway i think like you and I don't like it.
It's not the money i can afford
toby10;254959 Wrote:
The one advantage to our overly bloated and outrageously disorganized
form of government here
You've obviously no experience of uk government bureaucracy then.
:-)
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mvalera;254681 Wrote:
Mike
I WANT ONE! Just bill it to Sean Adams account.:)
The posted screen shots are nice. Are there plans to eventually post
some screen shots of what the screen *actually* will be displaying in
regards to Internet Radio feeds?
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SilverRS8;254930 Wrote:
Thx Phil for the update and good to hear everything works. Database
Tracing can indeed have a high impact! Is the output also good?
I'm currently installing SC in a VM and if I like the current state I
will move to SC also and then start making ACC compatible with
Robin Bowes;254913 Wrote:
Er, I think your sums may have gone a little awry.
$399.99 converted directly to UKP is £202.63
You must get a better rate than me then.
:-)
Yup, looks like I screwed the conversion up.
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Wow! This looks great! Any way to get a complete tutorial on getting
this to work with SB 6.5*? Phil, is your post (8:02 today) fairly
complete on everything that needs to be done?
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Will we be able to get just the receiver w/o the remote?
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autopilot;254951 Wrote:
Looking at the prices, i cant understand why the controler is double the
price of the reciver!
Why not? The controller has much more expensive components in it than
the receiver. Displays and buttons are not cheap items for any device.
Both have wifi radios, both
ezkcdude;254976 Wrote:
Will we be able to get just the receiver w/o the remote?
I just saw the product page for the receiver. $149! Woo hoo! I'll be
getting one. Thank you to whoever decided to roll out this product. I
had been thinking about getting another SB3, but figured since I had
bought
Kyle;254969 Wrote:
Wow! This looks great! Any way to get a complete tutorial on getting
this to work with SB 6.5*? Phil, is your post (8:02 today) fairly
complete on everything that needs to be done?
Kyle - to be honest I'm not sure and I'm no expert on this!
My post was related to SC7
I had noticed that via the BBC website yesterday. Haven't checked
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Mudlark, have a look at the Revo Pcio Wi-fi. Truly portable (rechargable
battery) and splashproof. Not brilliant wifi sensitivity and sound
quality about as one would expect from a device of that size.
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Fifer;254935 Wrote:
Am I alone in being slightly more excited about the SBR than the
Controller (which is lovely and I'm not putting it down). If the US
price of $149 converts (with VAT and duty) to around (preferably under)
£100, it starts to look like a reasonably affordable module with
Frank,
I just downloaded and ran beta 5 on SC 7.0 with no problems. The
results are fantastic in my opinion as I only have a straight vanilla
database. I really wanted a printed catalog for family and friends.
Thanks for all the good work, amazingly fast turn-around on
changes/corrections, and
Phil Leigh;254962 Wrote:
Frank - yes the output is excellent - many thanks for all of your hard
work.
I've made a couple of tweaks...
1) For compilations - but not normal albums it's nice to have the
artist next to the track
2) for the durations, I've removed the leading zero which makes
Well, Logitech.com is only showing the duet on the UK site. One of the
Slim guys (forgot which one) has already said the items will not be
generally available separately, but will be direct from them and
certain internet partners
BUT, Slim Devices only ship to the Americas - which means the
I also assume that your own computer can control the new receiver so you
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the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
communicates with SqueezeCenter. It will only keep those items in
memory which are to be displayed.
Thus from what the above quote implies and what can be gleaned from
other posts, it seems that the controller communicates either with
m1abrams;254979 Wrote:
Also why is this announcement getting so much flak? I think it is a
great deal, much cheaper than the competitors and I bet will offer more
configurations. For those that think $300 for a remote is high then
this is not the device for you, for many people into AV
I also want to follow up on the comments that the new controller is
better than a pda (e.g. the nokia web tablets - 770, 800, 810)
If the idea is to have something handheld rather than a desktop or
laptop computer to control the receiver, then looking at form factor,
the nokia line seem to beat
m1abrams;254979 Wrote:
Why not? The controller has much more expensive components in it than
the receiver. Displays and buttons are not cheap items for any device.
Both have wifi radios, both have memory, but the controller has a color
display and buttons. People think buttons are cheap,
the Controller? It doesn't manage the collection locally, but
communicates with SqueezeCenter. It will only keep those items in
memory which are to be displayed.
Anyone knows if it remember this when you powered off the server ? or
does it have to cache these thing's every time the server starts
The new controller doesn't seem to have enough buttons.
How would I use it to type a search when there are no alphanumeric
buttons? It doesn't have a touch screen for that does it? No.. can't
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Frank - I don't think you can do this directly within the SQL query. You
would have to parse the result set to strip out the leading noise
words and then re-sort.
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mortslim;255008 Wrote:
I also assume that your own computer can control the new receiver so you
really don't need any remote (neither the new one nor the old one).
Logitech people have said that you need the Controller for setup, and a
Receiver by itself is not a functioning configuration.
mrfantasy;255019 Wrote:
Probably worth pointing out that by simplifying the hardware design on
the Receiver, and I'm sure some less expensive manufacturing (which I'm
not implying means lower quality, just being able to leverage Logitech's
economies of scale), they've been able to cut the
mkozlows;255018 Wrote:
Logitech people have said that you need the Controller for setup, and a
Receiver by itself is not a functioning configuration. (I think;
correct me if I'm wrong.)
They have said that, and I can see why it has to be true for a wireless
connection (you need to identify
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