Re: [slim] all PC audio via SB
yes, but that way You loose one channel:) -- mcmc mcmc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68008 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
Hi there, I have had a quick look at the source-code for the dsbridge dll. The cover extractor part uses the gdiplus.dll - perhaps there is some dependencies to WinXp, or at least the gdipluss.dll should be set to native in the wine setting. I will try this later ... -- woodster woodster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32688 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
I completely agree. If Logitech are aiming Squeezeboxes in their various guises at the mass market, then things have to be a lot more intuitive. The SqueezeCenter / SqueezeNetwork point is a prime (and to be fair, probably the biggest) example. It's fine for those of us who have been around a while and have had these concepts grow up around us, but a new customer shouldn't have to read up to understand the difference, it should either be obvious functionality or seamless. -- hunta hunta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
eq72521;459075 Wrote: This scenario wouldn't play nicely when your Internet access is down. I actually sometimes use my music server and SBs in places with no Internet access at all, so I rather like that it can be done completely offline. On the other hand, the devices could perhaps be set up to connect to one but to fall back automatically to the other. Exactly, if SC is on then 'My Music Library' is shown, if Internet is on then 'Internet Radio' is shown. -- dave77 dave77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53445 -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - SC 7.3.3 - Ubuntu Server 8.04 iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
woodster;459271 Wrote: Hi there, I have had a quick look at the source-code for the dsbridge dll. The cover extractor part uses the gdiplus.dll - perhaps there is some dependencies to WinXp, or at least the gdipluss.dll should be set to native in the wine setting. I will try this later ... I tried adding gdiplus to wine libraries, but http error still ocurred on song changeover. Any other possibilities? -- Ramage P2 266MHz, ubuntu server 9.04 SC 7.4~27942 AMD64x2 ubuntu 9.04, SC 7.3.4~28263 Players: Classic, Duet, Boom, Controller Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Exciting :-) -- Aguida Aguida's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod Touch or iPhone to control music server
Wikipedia has correct info on speed: # CPU: Initially ARM 400 MHz, but now 412 MHz for 1st generation, 533 MHz [1] for 2nd Generation and ARM Cortex-A8 833 MHz underclocked to 600MHz for 3rd Generation . # GPU: PowerVR MBX Lite in 2nd Generation[28] and PowerVR SGX GPU for 3rd Generation[citation needed] # RAM: 128 MB DRAM in 2nd Generation and 256 MB DRAM in 3rd Generation You only gain 60 MHz going from 2nd to 3rd generation, though OpenGL intensive apps will gain a lot more with higher speed and 2.0 compatibility, which of course don't matter to iPeng. I'm looking at getting a used Ipod Touch 8G now when ppl are upgrading - sorry but no jive software wonder in the world would make me jump to a proprietary controller when you can get touch web browsing... -- pacc pacc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67717 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] all PC audio via SB
mcmc;459270 Wrote: yes, but that way You loose one channel:) Why would you lose a channel ? -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68008 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
Nonreality;459249 Wrote: I don't understand the confusion what so ever. Really read up a bit and it all makes sense. Get over it. A lot of users are baffled by SqueezeCenter / SqueezeNetwork. You won't believe how many calls we get from users who cannot find their local music to play. And of course it turns out their SB is connected to SN. It's also hard to explain to users why a SB cannot just be connected to both. Or why it doesn't switch automatically, depending on what you want to play or what is available. And then there is the ever continueing confusion about the PIN number. The instructions tell me I should register with a PIN number. I've looked everywhere in the manual but I can't find it anywhere. And when I use the number on the back of the SB (00:04:20...) it's not accepted. -- BastiaanR Squeezebox Controller (fw r6038) + Squeezebox Receiver (fw 62) + 1TB fileserver, Windows XP SP3, running SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 Download SC 7.3.4 from here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.3 BastiaanR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
dave77;459278 Wrote: Exactly, if SC is on then 'My Music Library' is shown, if Internet is on then 'Internet Radio' is shown. What about users of MP3Tunes, who have My Music Library on SN? In at least one incarnation (including the current?), Music Library shows up on both SC and SN. But what you find below the Music Library differs on SC and SN. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
aubuti;459293 Wrote: What about users of MP3Tunes, who have My Music Library on SN? In at least one incarnation (including the current?), Music Library shows up on both SC and SN. But what you find below the Music Library differs on SC and SN. The 2 must be able to co-exist seamlessly without needing to switch SN to SC eg select My Music Library then depending on what's available you get different options. How does 7.4 differ? I haven't tried it yet, probably won't til it's final. -- dave77 dave77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
dave77;459299 Wrote: The 2 must be able to co-exist seamlessly without needing to switch SN to SC eg select My Music Library then depending on what's available you get different options. How does 7.4 differ? I haven't tried it yet, probably won't til it's final. That's a very broad question. When do you need to switch between SC and SN on 7.3.3? Even with 7.3.3 all of the SN stuff is available when SC is running, without any explicit switching to SN. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
What I have never been able to completely establish is whether there are any services available on SqueezeNetwork that are not available on SqueezeCenter. As far as I can tell, as long as I am connected to SqueezeCenter, I have access to all the on-line music services and internet radio as well. In which case, because I have a NAS running SqueezeCenter 24/7, there is no real need for me to connect to SN. Or am I missing something? -- TheLastMan Matt SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) Synology Diskstation 107+ with FW 2.0-0844 SqueezeCenter 7.3.3 on Synology Package Manager Netgear DG834GT wireless ADSL modem/router Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers in living room. Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers in kitchen. LPs ripped using Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap, Behringer UCA202. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
aubuti;459300 Wrote: When do you need to switch between SC and SN on 7.3.3? For example, if SC was the last connection and I turn on my SB it will try to connect to SC again. If SC is not available I get an error saying no SC found or something like like. It isn't obvious/intuitive what to do next. I know I have to press back loads of times to get to the root menu then choose SN to connect to but it should do that itself. -- dave77 dave77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
In which case, because I have a NAS running SqueezeCenter 24/7, there is no real need for me to connect to SN. Or am I missing something? no. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
mherger;459306 Wrote: In which case, because I have a NAS running SqueezeCenter 24/7, there is no real need for me to connect to SN. Or am I missing something? no. The kind of answer I needed! Thanks. -- TheLastMan Matt SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) Synology Diskstation 107+ with FW 2.0-0844 SqueezeCenter 7.3.3 on Synology Package Manager Netgear DG834GT wireless ADSL modem/router Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers in living room. Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers in kitchen. LPs ripped using Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap, Behringer UCA202. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
dave77;459303 Wrote: For example, if SC was the last connection and I turn on my SB it will try to connect to SC again. If SC is not available I get an error saying no SC found or something like like. It isn't obvious/intuitive what to do next. I know I have to press back loads of times to get to the root menu then choose SN to connect to but it should do that itself. That's exactly where they're trying to go with 7.4. It's not there yet, and it's not clear whether it will be in place in time for the release of 7.4. The 7.4 release has to take place with the release of SB Radio, which is scheduled for this month. If auto SBS-SN switching isn't working by then, that feature will get pushed to 8.0. But it is something they are actively working on. @TheLastMan: You're not missing anything. If your SC is always available, you never need to explicitly switch to SN. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
In reality it is even more confusing with this auto switching between sc/sn I often wonder where i'm I ? I like the distinct choice between two sources . What I want to see is how WOL is going to work in this scenario how is the controller going to guess if I want to listen to SN or WOL the server. I have seen some improvements lately. But sometimes the cure is worse than the problem. I have no problem seeing that internet or my local server are different sources . Any one old enough to remember tape decks with automatic recording level :-) No settings easy to use but never correct in any situation. On the other hand less tech save relatives have asked me things like do I have internet on my computer now ? -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Locuth;458555 Wrote: Via email only so far. I am testing with a couple of supportive users. The biggest issue right now is screen-sizes like 320x240/640x480 (landscape) and 480x800. Also, screen rotation. If you'd like to actively test, including screenshots, send my an email. Cheers, Sebastia First off to answer your questions on my XDAIIs (WM2003): 1: Yes - I had to re-register 2: Pressing the back or hangup key gives the exact expected response, every time. Other things: 1: I still find it difficult tomove tracks in a Now Playing selection. I think the easiest solution is a contextual menu for Move Up, Move down, Play next, Delete, etc. 2: Volume display of % for paranoid types like me that like to ensure it is on 100%. Sometimes I adjust it (eg. remotely from my PC when the 'phone rings) and like to ensure it is back on 100% for serious listening. 3: Progress bar times would also be a good addition - elapsed and remaining time, like on an iPod. 4: Album sorting is by name rather than by track order. This is (for me) offputting - especially on familiar albums where you know (and expect) a certain order. Maybe a setting / preference? 5: Though not essential, it is sometimes handy if you can get meta info from the Now Playing screen. eg. Is this a FLAC or an ALAC? Finally, some maybe just mes: 1: I'd still love to see a New Music display, but on account that you haven't included it I guess there is nobody else screaming out for this? 2: I generally leave the control on when listening, but the screen goes blank after 30 seconds. On account of this, it would help if the first press (if and only if the screen is on sleep) of the screen would wake the screen backlight rather than being an active touch. -- amey01 amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
Just wanted to say thanks for this thread. I've now got Spotify rocking through my Squeezebox and BW speakers. Perfect. To get your pc's ip address: Click the Start button, select Run Type CMD and press Enter. A Command prompt window will open. Type ipconfig and press Enter. Several lines of information will be displayed. The IP address looks like 149.72.61.234 - yours will probably have different numbers near the end. -- 449514 449514's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12350 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Logitech employees, my comments come from someone who is glad you acquired slim devices. while i am sad to see sean and dean go, and see no gain by their leaving, i think in the long run logitech will create a group of products that will get cheaper and better due to logitechs mass market ability and focus. having said that, i do think you need to reconsider the current paradigm. i should preface myself by saying i'm NOT a developer, but i do represent the 'average joe' b/c while i have learned a lot since i bought a SB2 5 years ago or so, i share my music with many people and so i see first hand how they react and its much like how i reacted (which i remember well anyway). i support the idea logitech has to be targeted to be useful FIRST to the average joe, and second to the advanced user. i support the move to SQLite and to being less resource intensive overall. i support the idea to have SC AVOID issues and common problems it will come across in the marketplace. ie. it should be the GOAL of SC to adapt and change where it makes sense to, rather than proselytize and martyr itself on philosophical points. in other words, go with the flow more or less, recognize de facto standards and marketplace conditions. now, what should logitech do to accomplish these goals? i have two suggestions, and i think they would help logitech tremendously: *1.* setup SC so that it reports back to you all at the mothership everything about a specifc users given installation. ie. what options are being used and how are they set, (were default values changed? to what? etc...) what plugins, what formats and how many files, what version of SC, log files and errors and dropped streams, basically ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you can think of. (maybe even a last.fm or winamp style orgler for song listings to be part of an online community presence, but thats a tangental and separate idea) you should not only use this info to aid development, but you should present it in aggregate to all of us, (which wouldn't violate an given users privacy) maybe even in a page in SC itself! it would go a long way in showing what the majority do and help 3rd party development. i would suggest it be opt out but i am sure the majority here would say it should be opt in. however, it would be good to have the opt out folks at least reported by SC as opt outers so we know how many of that type there are, altho there should be a way to totally disable it for those installs that AREN'T internet capable. *2.* this next idea is even bigger, and is the paradigm shift i alluded to. i think logitech needs to sell a SC piece of HARDWARE. it makes no sense to me that so much development costs go into SC only to give it away for free, on a variety of platforms and permutations that only make supporting the SC clients MORE difficult than it needs to be. what exactly am i suggesting? a small silent energy efficient box, running linux, with SC on it. all that would still be open source, but it could be streamlined, maybe even rewritten in something OTHER than Perl. one version could do SC only, while another could do SC and a client (like SBR or SB2) combined; the obvious benefit being no router, internet or even computer is necessary to use that one. both could use a SSD and could boot nearly instantly. it could be user upgradeable, like for ram or wireless card or processor or SSD. the linux and SC could be in firmware, or if installed to the SSD, the FW could install fresh linux/SC to a new SSD via web install from a logitech repo. it would be reachable via web interface (or SBC) and connect to your router via dhcp (default) or static ip. it would have usb ports and other card ports for playing music attached to it which is automatically scanned. since it would operate on top of a full linux OS, it could be configured to map network drives to get music from elsewhere on your network. the linux OS itself could have a webui app for basic config options (like mapping drives) for non-techy types, maybe via SC itself. the SC device would be constantly connected to logitech, (unless users opt out), and logitech could update it, troubleshoot it, monitor it, all remotely. it could be controlled or connected to SN, and a community social networking type of site. what i am talking about is a turnkey solution. u could add a CD ripper to it, but that should be optional. it could do UPNP and DLNA and serve out not just music, but video to any (logitch) media adapters. maybe even an ipod hookup, (and i hate ipods, but u get my drift, any such device) once SC8.0 is out logitech should concentrate on this device, and should devote the majority of resources to it, rather than to SC development for various operating systems. in other words, new SC releases appear on it first, (including betas) in its new language and streamlined development environment, and later ported over to other OS's in major release versions only. surely this would aid
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
d'oh... one other thing i forgot to mention... with such a device, SN could always make your local music available to you wherever you get access to SN. so if you're away from home, just go to SN to get to your tunes. additionally, the device itself could be reached via the proposed social networking site i mentioned, or DDNS or something like that. (get yor music on your cell phone pluged into your car stereo, etc) bitrate lmiting could be enabled dynamically. make your music available to multiple households or friends clients, etc... -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.4b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using iMac as a music client and living with iTunes?
OK .. answered the first part of my question myself by searching these forums.! Installed squeezeplay beta on my iMac and it connects to my squeezecenter and synchronises with the other devices I have. Great! So my question now revolves around the best method of setting up a separate itunes library on my iMac to 'feed' my iphone (and keep a backup of all my music) - I'm guessing there are other threads on this so I will continue to search. The ideal situation would be... - I keep maintaining my music on my WHS server; - This music folder on the WHS is somehow synchronised with my iMac and itunes picks up any changes to the folder - iTunes is used only for the iphone and when I want to listen to music exclusively on my iMac. Too much to ask for? Regards Ian -- ianof ianof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9505 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68007 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using iMac as a music client and living with iTunes?
Thanks David I'll search on the following topics 1. iTunes 9 and folder monitoring 2. Synchronising files between windows home server and iMac OSX10.6 (if I can't get iTunes to do this) 3. iTunes 9 'self-managing' (to avoid me having to add every new folder of music manually) . It would be great if iTunes could monitor the folder on the windows home server and reflect any changes in the iTunes library which will be held on the iMac (i'd have to go wired while it build the library given the amount of data). I'd back up my mp3s differently (have RAID on the home server) Will post progress here. Any further advice appreciated (pretty new to this iMac and iTunes thing but have had squeezecenter and mp3tag working well for years) Regards Ian -- ianof ianof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9505 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68007 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using iMac as a music client and living with iTunes?
ianof;459341 Wrote: - I keep maintaining my music on my WHS server; - This music folder on the WHS is somehow synchronised with my iMac and itunes picks up any changes to the folder - iTunes is used only for the iphone and when I want to listen to music exclusively on my iMac. There are various options, depending on where you are initiating the synchronisation from. On Windows, SyncToy is a fairly decent option. Don't know if this'll still work from WHS. As you say, search is your best option. But, why sync? There is an option to stop iTunes messing with your music files, and let it just read the metadata. Have you tried iTunes 9? I believe it can now monitor folders. -- david_f1976 Living Room: SB3 - Musical Fidelity X-DAC V3 - Marantz PM-66SE -- Tannoy Profile 631SE Bedroom: Boom Dave www.last.fm/user/david_f1976 david_f1976's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15354 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68007 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using iMac as a music client and living with iTunes?
I'll post a specific question on itunes 9 and windows home server (in the appropriate forum) following some more research. Thanks Ian -- ianof ianof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9505 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68007 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to find threads I'm following?
JJZolx: I found the option and it was set to Do not subscribe and I think it's because I don't want to receive emails. Checking the alternatives it is now set to No email notification - so I hope this will work. Thanks for all inputs. -- cfuttrup cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68026 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Philip Meyer;458857 Wrote: I still find Extension Downloader awkward for example. i.e. needing to manually configure third-party repositories to find extra plugins, and then the plugin screen becomes rather crowded with tables. Hasn't this been solved in 7.4 ? If you check the checkbox to indicate that you allow third party plugins you should get a single list with all third party plugins that isn't officially recommended by Logitech. I think the only repositories that aren't included is the beta testing repostiories which some developers have. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to find threads I'm following?
cfuttrup;459359 Wrote: JJZolx: I found the option and it was set to Do not subscribe and I think it's because I don't want to receive emails. Checking the alternatives it is now set to No email notification - so I hope this will work. Also note that you can go back and subscribe to any of the threads where you have posts. Or any thread that you like. Use the Thread Tools menu and 'Subscribe to this thread'. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68026 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Hasn't this been solved in 7.4 ? No. If you check the checkbox to indicate that you allow third party plugins you should get a single list with all third party plugins that isn't officially recommended by Logitech. That only gives you some - the ones that have been suggested by the community as safe third-party plugins. Most poeple have to add several repositories - one for each third-party developer, and each one is listed as a separate table. I just tried clicking on Settings Plugins. After at least 30 seconds waiting for the page to display, I counted 24 different tables - one for Active, Inactive, Recommended 3rd party plugins, other 3rd party plugins, Alien BBC plugin, Erland's plugins, my plugins, etc... I think the only repositories that aren't included is the beta testing repostiories which some developers have. There's no such thing (except I think maybe Erland has his own repository and a test repository for WIP stuff). Third-party developers have their own repository for their own plugins - they could be for 7.2, 7.3, 7.4, future, etc. i.e. any version of any of their plugins. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] all PC audio via SB
mcmc;459270 Wrote: yes, but that way You loose one channel:) ok, bad example. Try this instead: http://www.amazon.co.uk/FPUK-3-5mm-Headphone-Splitter-CABLE/dp/B001D84CV6/ref=dp_cp_ob_ce_title_1 -- funkstar my collection: *1*x squeezebox radio *1*x squeezebox touch *1*x squeezebox boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver) *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68008 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Did you ever notice that Logitech employees clam up when a thread starts getting close to actual product plans? :) Although, it's not looking quite like you envision, Mr.Sinatra. We really, really, can't talk about it, but we are definitely keeping these issues in mind as we move forward. See, now you made me talk like a marketing guy. Dammit. -- ChrisOwens Christopher Owens QA Manager ch...@slimdevices.com ChrisOwens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Chris, thats great. but how about suggestion number 1? basically the idea SC should have an equal to Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program where the app collects usage data and sends it to logitech, etc? -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.4b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
I'll get someone more involved with product definition and strategy to have a look at the thread for that one. :) -- ChrisOwens Christopher Owens QA Manager ch...@slimdevices.com ChrisOwens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Philip Meyer;459392 Wrote: Hasn't this been solved in 7.4 ? No. If you check the checkbox to indicate that you allow third party plugins you should get a single list with all third party plugins that isn't officially recommended by Logitech. That only gives you some - the ones that have been suggested by the community as safe third-party plugins. Most poeple have to add several repositories - one for each third-party developer, and each one is listed as a separate table. I just tried clicking on Settings Plugins. After at least 30 seconds waiting for the page to display, I counted 24 different tables - one for Active, Inactive, Recommended 3rd party plugins, other 3rd party plugins, Alien BBC plugin, Erland's plugins, my plugins, etc... If you have checked the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox in the Plugins tab you shouldn't need to specify any of the repositories listed on the wiki. This checkbox will include these repositories automatically and put them in a Other 3rd party plugins list. However, I'm guessing that in your setup you probably had these repositories already registered which probably explains why you see multiple lists. Try removing them and checking the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox and you should get a nice surprise. If you don't check the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox, there will only be a single list with plugins recommended by community and reviewed and approved by Logitech. Isn't this how it works in your setup ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Nice post with some interesting ideas. I was right there with you until.. MrSinatra;459332 Wrote: i look at my SB2 and wonder why i need to have a computer turned on to use it with local music. it simply no longer makes sense to do that. so this was a long post, but i really think these two ideas would help logitech out tremendously. what say you logitech? The Radio and Touch are Smart devices (the Controller with minimum resources). All Squeezeboxes prior are Dumb devices and that is why they need a Server whether it is SC locally or phone home to SN. For what is to wonder why about the SB2? It is impossible for an SB2 to function on its own to play local music because its a dumb device that currently needs either a Server or a Smart device running TinySC to be able to play local files. And even if something was created on SN to play local files, I would think a local server would have to be on so its back to SC and Dumb devices. I see the point, but to me, we are just now getting there with this new generation of Smart devices. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
iPhone;459441 Wrote: Nice post with some interesting ideas. I was right there with you until.. my quote The Radio and Touch are Smart devices (the Controller with minimum resources). All Squeezeboxes prior are Dumb devices and that is why they need a Server whether it is SC locally or phone home to SN. For what is to wonder why about the SB2? It is impossible for an SB2 to function on its own to play local music because its a dumb device that currently needs either a Server or a Smart device running TinySC to be able to play local files. And even if something was created on SN to play local files, I would think a local server would have to be on so its back to SC and Dumb devices. I see the point, but to me, we are just now getting there with this new generation of Smart devices. i think either i wrote that poorly, or you misunderstood, probably both. ;) i wasn't saying the SB2 i have, as in the one i literally look at and use, doesn't need SC or SN. sure, of course it does; and it mades sense 5 years ago to host the server on a users computer, yada yada yada... what i meant was that today i look at my SB2, and i believe that what made that a sensible product/paradigm years ago no longer exists today. in other words, a SB2 today should work with my proposed device INSTEAD OF my computer. you could hook up a USB drive or esata or whatever to the small linux SC box, and power your SB2 or whatever with just the proposed SC device. thats what i meant when i said i wonder why i need a computer on meaning my own computer. times have changed, the paradigm should change too. its financially feasible now. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.4b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
That's a long list... but I like it. Most features are sensible. I will include them in version 1.1 I guess you had no bugs or unexpected behaviours, cause you didn't mention any. Just a side note. I always wondered about the need to have the track time displayed. All audio devices have it, every tape recorder had it. Does anybody ever take action based on 21 seconds left in track ?? So I open the discussion what's the point of the track time display ;-) -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
aubuti;459310 Wrote: @TheLastMan: You're not missing anything. If your SC is always available, you never need to explicitly switch to SN. Why don't people just leave their PC (server) on all the time? Just leave it on - -have squeeze center running (which is also logged into squeezenetwork) -- so you see everything (local music and internet radio all the time). Computers are meant to run 24/7. With FIOS and cable broadband there is no need to shutdown home PCs. The only time my PC shuts down is if there is a power failure during a thunderstorm. -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
I'm not sure I'm in on the Mr Sinatra ethos. Though it would seem that Logi are already thinking of removing the unknown variable to make their user experience a predictable one. I have always lagged behind on the server front. Why? - because until I HAVE to change (because a new device now requires it) the current version does what I wanted it to do now as well as I wanted it to do then - play my music. I have a low energy fanless server running linux already - why do I want to(or eventually have to) buy another device to sit on my network to do the same job. My server does more than the logi device will be able to do (video, ftp, web, email, automation). I don't consider my home network environment to be anything special, and I have managed to install updates to the server (when needed) without ever having issues. Does that make me especially lucky? I worry we are just heading for a hooked in system that demands you use the Logi server box. The original appeal was that I could use what I liked, and not be dictated to about the serving hardware. I realise this POV has many holes for others to pick at. Nic -- DrNic SqueezeCenter Version: 7.2 - 22900 - Debian - EN - utf8 Perl Version: 5.8.8 i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 Platform Architecture: i686-linux System: T2-WHS A3i (Intel Atom) Headless all wired Gigabit LAN DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Well, I didn't really agree with much of it, I'm afraid. My PC is left on most of the time, or has wake-on-LAN, so it makes sense to use it to host music, rather than need to transfer music to another piece of kit (NAS, USB Disk, etc). It's nice that Players can connect direct to internet to stream radio, I expect customers to identify with that. But I expect that most customers who have music ripped to local disk have it connected to a PC. eg. hoards of people who use iTunes to sync up to iPods. I would expect that having software that reports back to Logitech with usage stats would scare a lot of people. I always disable things like that in WMP, iTunes, etc. I'd imagine at least half of the community base would not opt in (I think it's a legal requirement to opt in to things like that in the UK, rather than give the option to disable). So, any stats would be skewed by the type of people that opt in/opt out. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
If you have checked the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox in the Plugins tab you shouldn't need to specify any of the repositories listed on the wiki. This checkbox will include these repositories automatically and put them in a Other 3rd party plugins list. I have the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox ticked. No idea which ones that gives me, what table title they are listed under, etc, as there's not been much announcement or documentation explaining it. I assumed that setting only controlled the recommended 3rd party plugins, and any others would need to come from manually entered repositories. I add 3rd party repositories to the list when I see plugin announcements, so I can see what plugins are available. I don't really see why they should come up as separate tables. In Recommended 3rd Party plugins, I have 2 plugins listed (assume there are more, but I have them installed, so they appear within Active). In Other 3rd party plugins, I have 6 listed. Adding all the other repository plugins together gives another 40 that are available for installation. If I wanted to find one in particular, I'd have to know who the author was/what repo in order to know what table to look in to find it. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Track time display is occasionally useful to me because I have some long (15+ minute) classical music tracks mixed in with more typical 3 minute tracks. Helps to know how much longer I can expect a track to play. But it's a minor issue for me. eric -- EricBergan EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?
eap;459465 Wrote: Why don't people just leave their PC (server) on all the time? Just leave it on - -have squeeze center running (which is also logged into squeezenetwork) -- so you see everything (local music and internet radio all the time). Computers are meant to run 24/7. With FIOS and cable broadband there is no need to shutdown home PCs. The only time my PC shuts down is if there is a power failure during a thunderstorm. Some people shutdown, or at least suspend, their computers for a variety of reasons. Noise is one, energy consumption is another. Or the server is a laptop that one person takes out of the house from time to time, leaving others with only SN. I'm fine leaving my SC server on, although I prefer to use the SrvrPowerCtrl plugin to suspend it when my players are idle, and wake it up via WOL. But some people want to turn the computer off. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Adam, the volume percent value will be displayed in 0.995+ Also, tracks will be sorted by track No. That was a quick fix and it makes total sense to have it this way. I'll proabably put in some meta info, too. Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
Philip Meyer;459500 Wrote: I have the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox ticked. No idea which ones that gives me, what table title they are listed under, etc, as there's not been much announcement or documentation explaining it. I assumed that setting only controlled the recommended 3rd party plugins, and any others would need to come from manually entered repositories. I add 3rd party repositories to the list when I see plugin announcements, so I can see what plugins are available. I don't really see why they should come up as separate tables. Recommended plugin list is there by default. Other third party plugin list are only there if you have the Show all 3rd party plugins check box ticked. You can remove all manually added repositories which is available on the wiki page that lists repositories. The checkbox described above will add all plugins in these repositories automatically and they will appear in the Other third party plugins list. If you have manually registered repository urls, these will override the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox and you will get multiple lists. Philip Meyer;459500 Wrote: In Recommended 3rd Party plugins, I have 2 plugins listed (assume there are more, but I have them installed, so they appear within Active). In Other 3rd party plugins, I have 6 listed. Adding all the other repository plugins together gives another 40 that are available for installation. If I wanted to find one in particular, I'd have to know who the author was/what repo in order to know what table to look in to find it. If you remove all your manually registered repository url, you will get a lot larger Other 3rd party plugins list. All plugins now listed in separate lists will then be moved into Other 3rd party plugins. The ONLY repositories you should need to register manually are those not listed on the wiki page. In 7.3 this wasn't the case, then you had to register all repositories to get not recommended plugins, but the new checkbox in 7.4 takes care of this. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
erland;459406 Wrote: If you have checked the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox in the Plugins tab you shouldn't need to specify any of the repositories listed on the wiki. This checkbox will include these repositories automatically and put them in a Other 3rd party plugins list. However, I'm guessing that in your setup you probably had these repositories already registered which probably explains why you see multiple lists. Try removing them and checking the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox and you should get a nice surprise. If you don't check the Show all 3rd party plugins checkbox, there will only be a single list with plugins recommended by community and reviewed and approved by Logitech. Geez, I didn't know that! Thanks! -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio (beta) | 1 Touch (beta) | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Squeezebox Server 7.4 Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Update RadioIO List of Available Stations
Apparently, radioIO has dropped some stations, and changed the name of other stations. When is SlimServer going to update it's current list of available radioIO stations to match the ones listed on the radioIO website? Thanks for your help in advance! Jacob -- The Witchdoctor The Witchdoctor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10854 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68065 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Update RadioIO List of Available Stations
The list we use comes from RadioIO, so should always be up to date. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68065 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Locuth;459456 Wrote: Does anybody ever take action based on 21 seconds left in track ?? So I open the discussion what's the point of the track time display ;-) Minor issue for me too, but sometimes I am aware of a particular thing to listen for at certain times. Sometimes I make notes on at 51 seconds It is also handy when programming playlists as to how much time on the current track is remaining. -- amey01 amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
