Re: [slim] iPeng now your audiophile App-Squeezebox for iPhone and iPad

2012-09-07 Thread steveeedster
This is great news Pippin, so basically an Ipod etc can now be plugged into a dock that in turn can be plugged into my Hif-Fi via phono etc. This means we have a hardware solution going forward now the Logitech have decided to dump on this community from a great height. Do we have a screen shot

Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech

2012-09-07 Thread Atlantic
Gadgety1 wrote: I've spent the day researching alternatives. [..] I also thought of using a tablet or a phone, since most people have them anyway. To get the digital audio out there's a new standard called MHL- Mobile High Definition Link (brought to the world by Nokia, Samsung and a few

Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech

2012-09-07 Thread garym
bpa wrote: At a guess, some user will not be happy with the analogue and spdif interfaces on these boxes as they will not have been designed for discriminating users. Support of USB DAC would be the key issue. Given the difficulty that Triode had with Touch getting DACs to work propers

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread ralphy
nonnoroger wrote: Many thanks for this. I have been trying it under ML (which by the way is now on 10.8.1 so is no longer a .0 release). Sorry to say that it still sends output to Airplay (very quietly) despite the environment variable settings. I tried with Built-in Output. I will

[slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora

2012-09-07 Thread garym
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/technology/apple-plans-to-challenge-pandora-in-web-radio.html?_r=1hp garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread:

[slim] RIP Joe South

2012-09-07 Thread garym
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/06/arts/music/joe-south-singer-and-songwriter-dies-at-72.html?hpw garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?

2012-09-07 Thread pallfreeman
Mnyb wrote: Thats another problem due to that slimp3 and sb1 have much smaller buffers , I can see it be a bit problematic to make syncing code that works perfect in this scenario . It gets compounded by LMS transcoding in many instances as slimp3 don't support that many file formats

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread nonnoroger
Ralphy I set the needed environment variable using export from the command line and then ran your Squeezeslave using the open command. Hey presto - sound output to Built-in Output as I had specified. I checked my environment.plist with the XCode property list editor and there were no problems.

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread nonnoroger
A bit more on this from the Developer site (the LS stands for Launch Services - launchd): = LSEnvironment LSEnvironment (Dictionary - OS X) defines environment variables to be set before launching this app. The names of the environment variables are the keys of the dictionary, with

Re: [slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora

2012-09-07 Thread Agent Smith
They sell consumers hardware, tightly controlling what's available. They sell consumers software, and censor what software is available, while taking a cut from third-party developer profits. They sell video and e-books and censor what content is available, while taking a cut from content

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread ralphy
Thanks for tracking this down. I should have known to check if the environment.plist file was still supported in Mountain Lion. Part of the reason I haven't upgraded is Apple keeps dumbing down OSX with every release. Could you post your startup script so everyone can benefit?

Re: [slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora

2012-09-07 Thread toby10
Agent Smith, I generally agree and I don't own anything Apple. But MS has done the same with their Zune music system, tethering users music libraries to a very select few (and declining) hardware base. Luckily I was steered clear of both early on. ;)

Re: [slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora

2012-09-07 Thread garym
toby10 wrote: Agent Smith, I generally agree and I don't own anything Apple. But MS has done the same with their Zune music system, tethering users music libraries to a very select few (and declining) hardware base. Luckily I was steered clear of both early on. ;) I generally agree as

Re: [slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora

2012-09-07 Thread simbo
I agree, but Apple are so good at selling these services in an integrated fashion that even when it -is- possible to use a different service, the vast majority of Apple consumers would still flock to Apple's own one. It's something that even Google haven't been able to emulate (for better or for

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread nonnoroger
ralphy wrote: Could you post your startup script so everyone can benefit? From a terminal command line, create runPlayer containing the three lines (assuming the app itself is in your own Applications folder): export USEPADEVICE=Built-in Output export USEPAMAXSAMPLERATE=9600 open

Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone

2012-09-07 Thread simbo
erland wrote: So, let's try to keep this community active and let's keep encourage the creativity among all third party developers and let's continue being helpful to users with problems. Let's all be part of the next journey to musical bliss, I'm definitely ready for the ride! I agree with

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread ralphy
nonnoroger wrote: export USEPAMAXSAMPLERATE=9600 As soon as I get time I will try creating the suggested dictionary for environment variables in the Info.plist for the app. I think this should be export USEPAMAXSAMPLERATE=9600*0* Once you've tested the Info.plist PM me the details and I

Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone

2012-09-07 Thread Ikabob
I agree with everything said also. The Squeezebox ecosystem has changed my life and has introduced me to such beautiful new music with audiophile quality that I could have never imagined. We have music everywhere in our home thanks to the Squeezebox devices and thanks to Ipeng I can be anywhere

Re: [slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora

2012-09-07 Thread epoch1970
I generally disagree :) Of course, everyone is entitled to his own opinions … you know the rest. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora

2012-09-07 Thread castalla
... and don't forget the Annual Apple Tax tribute is about to be collected with the release of the iPhone 5. Most of these devices are simply cash generating devices - and to make matters worse the end-user has to actually buy the one-arm bandit before they can start feeding it the coins.

Re: [slim] Shouldn't we have an UE Radio forum?

2012-09-07 Thread alfista
pallfreeman wrote: As I (almost) said before, Logitech have encouraged people to use their official forum for the Squeezeboxes for a long time. They may prefer it if we refer all UE stuff there. Could be. Either way, Logitech can have it the way they want, an UE related section here will only

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread mbonsack
ralphy wrote: This version plays 24/96 wave and flac files natively using the latest LMS 7.8.0 nightly. Does this *require* 7.8.0 LMS, or will 7.7.2 suffice? Thanks! -mark mbonsack's Profile:

Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?

2012-09-07 Thread SBT2010
yeomanspc wrote: I agree Erland, but my reason to ask the question was to see if others feel it is worth paying for LMS and thus send a signal to either Logitech or other developers that there is a compromise here without burying LMS or the old SB's and maybe a more positive way forward for

Re: [slim] RIP Joe South

2012-09-07 Thread w3wilkes
His song I Knew You When performed by Billy Joe Royal has always been a favorite of mine. RIP w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread:

Re: [slim] RIP Joe South

2012-09-07 Thread radish112
I grew up in the South, where beach music was a mostly local phenomenon in cool places such as Ocean Drive, South Carolina. One of the great beach music (or any music) bands was The Tams. Back in 1962, they had a hit with Joe South's Untie Me. Sounds just as good today as it did when I was a

Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

2012-09-07 Thread Labarum
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Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

2012-09-07 Thread MelonMonkey
The new products are coming about primarily because SB is not easy to use and completely inaccessible to the general public. I love the flexibility of SB and have been using it since 2006, but this product line and the server software are not mass-market products and can never be without drastic

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX

2012-09-07 Thread ralphy
mbonsack wrote: Does this *require* 7.8.0 LMS, or will 7.7.2 suffice? Thanks! -mark I've tested 24/96 with this version as far back as 7.6.2 any sample rate higher than 96000 requires a 7.8.0 nightly ralphy's

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread wellington
I have my music files inside a TS-210 QNAP NAS. My Squeezebox touch gets FLAC files from the NAS and then digitally feeds a DAC Magic by Cambridge Audio. I have noticed the appearance of android-based media players who have S/Pdif interface. One of these players with Squeese Player will likely

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread Labarum
wellington wrote: I have noticed the appearance of android-based media players [which] have S/Pdif interface. Can you name them, please? Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View

[slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread mortslim
I finally decided to try a low power squeezebox server. I purchased a SheevaPlug. I have never used linux before. I have spent the past few days and many, many hours getting my SheevaPlug set up as a squeezebox server. In the process, I have posted several questions and contributed several

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread wellington
Labarum wrote: Can you name them, please? Hi there are some: http://www.jactek.com.tw/Products_jm400_M.asp http://www.androidinabox.com/mygica-r5-android-tv-box.html ciao/Marco wellington's Profile:

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread castalla
You could have saved yourself a lot of hassle and frustration if you'd bought a Raspeberry Pi and installed truehl's Squeezeplug for RPi! Did you check out his images for Sheevaplugs? You're correct about the majority of people not having much knowledge of the geekiness of modern technology -

Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

2012-09-07 Thread Ikabob
Simplifying,LOGITECH will be a contender and a leader in the wireless entertainment field if they: 1: introduce diverse devices above and beyond the Radio; ie, Touch or SB3 equivalent. 2: include synchronization among all devices. 3: maintain the confidence,credibility and respect of previous

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread Labarum
wellington wrote: Hi there are some: http://www.jactek.com.tw/Products_jm400_M.asp http://www.androidinabox.com/mygica-r5-android-tv-box.html ciao/Marco Ta (That means gracias) Labarum's Profile:

Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

2012-09-07 Thread Labarum
I agree Squeezebox is not for everyone, but for those that can handle its complexity it is a glorious product. Perhaps the new products should embrace a simpler approach, but have an advanced menu item to turn back on all the more difficult features we have mastered and love. It would cost

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread wellington
Labarum wrote: Ta (That means gracias) I know. By the way I am italian not spanish so that means grazie. ciao Marco wellington's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7601 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread bpa
Android media players look attractive as they often have a video output as well as audio output and so end users may add a display Many of the latest batch of Android media players run older version of Android such as 2.2 and 2.3 and on some system where users have XMBC loaded have noticed that

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread Labarum
wellington wrote: I know. By the way I am italian not spanish so that means grazie. ciao Marco Yea, I nearly left the 's' off for that reason, but I'm no Latinist! Labarum's Profile:

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread Mark Miksis
Marvell and Globalscale have done a crappy job of supporting their products and developing a community around them. It's a mistake to judge the Linux community as a whole based on this example. Mark Miksis's Profile:

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread Goodsounds
Of these things - Have time, have curiousity about the device, have knowledge, don't have money, I think at least three of the four need to apply before it makes sense to try one of these plug units. Otherwise, why bother? You can easily find cheap nettops with Windows that'll run all month for

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread wellington
bpa wrote: Android media players look attractive as they often have a video output as well as audio output and so end users may add a display Many of the latest batch of Android media players run older version of Android such as 2.2 and 2.3 and on some system where users have XMBC loaded

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Herger
Funny subject. As the Squeezebox is only one of the many Linux computers in your life. Then there's your router, your TV set, your music service's backend, your... -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread bpa
wellington wrote: You mean XBMC for Android? I am not thinking to use that. XBMC was only an example of a 3rd party application having difficulty with audio on the digital outputs of these media players. I would expect a developer of a SB player app (e.g. ported Squeezeplayer) to encounter

Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

2012-09-07 Thread SBT2010
Ikabob wrote: Simplifying,LOGITECH will be a contender and a leader in the wireless entertainment field if they: 1: introduce diverse devices above and beyond the Radio; ie, Touch or SB3 equivalent. 2: include synchronization among all devices. 3: maintain the confidence,credibility

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread aubuti
Goodsounds wrote: Of these things - Have time, have curiousity about the device, have knowledge, don't have money, I think at least three of the four need to apply before it makes sense to try one of these plug units. Otherwise, why bother? Very well said. And that's speaking as someone

Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

2012-09-07 Thread SBT2010
Labarum wrote: I agree Squeezebox is not for everyone, but for those that can handle its complexity it is a glorious product. Perhaps the new products should embrace a simpler approach, but have an advanced menu item to turn back on all the more difficult features we have mastered and

Re: [slim] Shouldn't we have an UE Radio forum?

2012-09-07 Thread pallfreeman
alfista wrote: What you didn't just almost say was: No, what I said was that Logitech have been encouraging use of their official forum since day 1, which is incorrect. I don't think we are likely to change that by turning our back on the users who hop on the UE train now, simply because

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread pallfreeman
bpa wrote: The user communities supporting these products are often quite small. True, but they're amazingly enthusiastic and making incredible progress. XBMC rox. There are a few Linux alternatives (which generally have a better user community) such as this plug computer with analoguie

Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-07 Thread GeeJay
pallfreeman wrote: True, but they're amazingly enthusiastic and making incredible progress. XBMC rox. I just spent a bit of time looking over the XBMC forums and wiki. It's no small community...in fact, it appears to be bigger than ours. They just released AudioEngine in May, and it

Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

2012-09-07 Thread Mnyb
not easy to use !? really, you point at songs and they play ? The real timesink and learning curve has been ripping and tagging , no one want's to spend that much time riping 1000's of CD's and tag them properly nowadays . This is whats make it non mass-market you must be a collector and music

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread Mnyb
There are many easy to use options to install an LMS server. The plug computer or the unsupported NAS experience (or other choice of bizarre hardware ) are hardly the typical LMS server experience . Usually folks clicks the windows installer and be happy or use a NAS with a supported LMS package

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread GeeJay
Mnyb has a point. Amost all of the early problems with my SBs were network related. My supposedly simple to use iThingies were similarly affected. Once I got those issues resolved, it has been smooth sailing. I can't say the same for the three wireless printers I've tried, and the Dell laptop

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released

2012-09-07 Thread brising
anyone using squeezeslave on an NLSU2 (SlugOS) ? I managed to compile squeezeslave and run it but I only hear white noise. My usb sound card and OSS seem o work ok, I can play music using madplay without any problem.

Re: [slim] Podcast issue

2012-09-07 Thread mpower9
bpa wrote: You could open a bug report but I think it is a niche problem and as such unless you provided a patch to LMS - unlikely to get fixed quickly. I have added a report to a bug related to podcasts and have voted for it. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17745 Although it

Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)

2012-09-07 Thread mpower9
One of the things I like about the squeezebox gadgets is that they are so flexible. I'm just a little old lady, but just reading these forums it is clear that some people (like me) just use them relatively straight out of the box without much fiddling around and others enjoy hacking around with

[slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99

2012-09-07 Thread ply3908
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/special-offers/closeout/transporter-se Coupon Code: logi_tse_9712 (Exp 9/10). Tax in CA, CT, MA, MN, NY, WA, TN, TX ply3908's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38634

[slim] Simple cheap amplifier recommendation please?

2012-09-07 Thread ModelCitizen
Hello, I'm after a simple, no frills and inexpensive amplifier for a Receiver to run a pair of 40 watt 4/8 ohm speakers. It'll be going in my garage so should be robust. Tone controls and loudness button would be useful.. not bothered about balance. All amps I can find are too overblown for