pippin;695977 Wrote:
But you are aware that strictly speaking in some countries that support
violates a number of laws (including most of Europe and the US) because
it uses cracked DRM passwords. The only reason you can still provide is
that Apple generally doesn't care about these things as
The code in AirPlay is there to provide copy protection so cracking it
means you are removing DRM. I'm not a lawyer and can't really judge on
DMCA but in Germany. That's clearly illegal, it's a common case for DVD
ripping software which is very similar (uses a cracked one-time code to
read the
All Linn DS products now with Davaar firmware support Airplay.
Absolutely no hardware changes at all.
Vortexbox player had AirPlay for a while. Software only.
XBMC has AirPlay support.
As has already been said the software is trivial to do, that's not the
issue, and providing unofficial
For example computer peripherals of all kind mice keyboards and webcams
and other stuff.
Don't think they wan't to risk upsetting Apple .
And iPod docks to..
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bernt;685857 Wrote:
Vortexbox player had AirPlay for a while. Software only.
XBMC has AirPlay support.
But you are aware that strictly speaking in some countries that support
violates a number of laws (including most of Europe and the US) because
it uses cracked DRM passwords. The only
pippin;642540 Wrote:
The statement _IS_ correct and no, I can not provide links and maybe
nobody can, so you have to believe it or not. Sometimes the Internet is
simpky NOT the best source of information.
But please have a look for only a single AirPlay product that has a
different
Vortexbox player had AirPlay for a while. Software only.
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I started this thread a year ago -- how great that so many smart people
have made real progress on Airplay.
In the interest of full disclosure, the reason I was interested in it
is because I've found my iPod touch is actually the best device I can
find to manage all my podcasts through the
pski;685750 Wrote:
What would Airplay add?
It would appear as a remote playback device to the iPod Touch, iPhone
and iPad, so you'd be able to stream music, etc. to the Squeezebox
system direct from the iDevice.
Great in the audiobooks example above or when friends come over with
new music
The statement _IS_ correct and no, I can not provide links and maybe
nobody can, so you have to believe it or not.
But please have a look for only a single AirPlay product that has a
different chipset or uses an pre-existing WiFi design.
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RadBadMark;636849 Wrote:
Of course you have to have a license with Apple! Bridgeco wouldn't be
allowed to deal with you if you didn't, and anything that has Airplay
in needs to be tested and certified by Apple themselves before it can
be sold.
Bridgeco are in the business of selling
jovapo;636980 Wrote:
Where do you get shairplay for windows? All I can find is for linux. Do
you have instructions for this step you can link to?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/shairport4w/files/
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astfre0;636797 Wrote:
Get ShairPlay4w, configure and install it as service (at least true if
you are running a Windows box as Squeeze server), do sound setup, then
enable the WaveInput Plugin and create a favourite. Done!
Works like a charm. :-)
Oh... Make sure you have valid Sound I/O
Get ShairPlay4w, configure and install it as service (at least true if
you are running a Windows box as Squeeze server), do sound setup, then
enable the WaveInput Plugin and create a favourite. Done!
Works like a charm. :-)
Oh... Make sure you have valid Sound I/O on the server first. I had to
analographi;636182 Wrote:
wrong.
You don't even have to license with apple!
You can license with them:
http://www.bridgeco.com/apple-airplay/
Apple has partnered with them:
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/09/09/with-airplay-apple-opens-itunes-software-to-a-3rd-party/
Of course you have to
Just to clear everything up here.
1: ANY router can do Airplay between airplay capable devices (only
airport express can be used as an airport-analog-output-endpoint)
2: If squeezebox wants to support airplay, it can. Apple allows it.
Don't know how much it will cost logitech though.
3:
andyg;605108 Wrote:
No, Apple does not make it possible.
wrong.
YOU don't make it possible!
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analographi;636181 Wrote:
...
2: If squeezebox wants to support airplay, it can. Apple allows it.
Don't know how much it will cost logitech though..
I don't know about Airplay, but SqueezeBox asked Apple for years to
license iTunes DRM support for it's players. Apple's response was
analographi;636181 Wrote:
.
A company does always good if they keep it compatible with as many
services as possible. Ignoring airplay would be a huge mistake.
Yet Apple does not have native FLAC support.
Within reason I agree more is better which in turn means more options
to the user
Based on my experience, it's going to take time before we see anything
official from Logitech regarding this, it always tends to get
complicated as soon as business agreements are required.
While we wait, there is always the already working third party AirPlay
solution for Squeezebox:
toby10;636185 Wrote:
I don't know about Airplay, but SqueezeBox asked Apple for years to
license iTunes DRM support for it's players. Apple's response was a
definitive no.
How do you know that? There are other things to prohibit agreements
than a definite no.
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pippin;636221 Wrote:
How do you know that? There are other things to prohibit agreements than
a definite no.
It was mentioned in here by one of the developers years ago.
The general gist of the response was we've tried a number of times to
discuss licensing with Apple/iTunes and we will
OK, on AirPlay Apple wants to cooperate and does so with a number of
companies.
The biggest hurdle I can see for a company who wants to use this is
that Apple doesn't require just a license or something but that you
also have to buy the chipset from their supplier. That can be a bummer.
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pippin;636235 Wrote:
The biggest hurdle I can see for a company who wants to use this is that
Apple doesn't require just a license or something but that you also have
to buy the chipset from their supplier. That can be a bummer.
The gist I got from speaking indirectly to someone who's been
Yeah - I upgraded to the latest Wordpress release, and it killed my
settings file :(
You make a good point, though. The reason that I didn't do this is
twofold: The audio quality via AO on my system (lacking Digital
Recording facilities and so affected by a great deal of noise from the
floating
srcshelton;627462 Wrote:
Airplay works, and I'm listening to iTunes via my Squeezebox right now:
http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/762
:D
Your blog has been down with a database error for several days now.
I'd like to suggest a small change to custom-convert.conf so that the
wave
Yes, I was aware there would be issues as it was a very quickly
hacked-together proof of concept. Thanks for the feedback :-)
The hairtunes pipe support was added specifically for SBS
integration...
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mflint;627605 Wrote:
The hairtunes pipe support was added specifically for SBS integration...
Excellent - I assumed it was for Macs...
Any thoughts on whether there's any sensible way to multiplex multiple
clients? You wouldn't want more than one playing at once, but if one
client is
It works, and I'm listening to iTunes via my Squeezebox right now:
http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/762
:D
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srcshelton;627462 Wrote:
Airplay works, and I'm listening to iTunes via my Squeezebox right now:
http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/762
:D
Great write-up! I started putting together a plugin, so will
incorporate your instructions into it :)
https://github.com/mflint/SquairPlay
I was still defeated by this forum's More replies below current
depth... threading model... man that's complicated. How does anyone
ever find a reply?!
I've added a few comments to my article - I'm not sure your
custom-convert.conf is right, but I think that's on your To-dos (there
seems to be
Thoughts
AFAIK the AV Receivers you mention are supporting UPnP and Squeezebox
Server 7.6 (now in beta) should provide a UPnP server facility.
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I don't like Apple or iTunes or any of this. however, a number of new
receivers from Onkyo, Denon, etc. are supporting AirPlay and it would
be nice to use one of them as an addition to the Squeezebox network and
let me put one of my SB units in another room. Thoughts?
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What about a solution like sonos is using? Is there any elegant way to
do this using either a server box or sqeezebox?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/19/sonos-adds-airplay-support-as-android-controller-app-hits-the-ma/
The squeezebox radio has ethernet and line in.
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way of sampling the audio input to the line in jack.
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Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
I SAID ALL OF THEM !
jovapo;626409 Wrote:
What about a solution like sonos is using? Is there any elegant way to
do this using either a server box or sqeezebox?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/19/sonos-adds-airplay-support-as-android-controller-app-hits-the-ma/
The squeezebox radio has ethernet and line in.
Sonos just added Airplay support to their current line via an Airport
Express setup.
Press Blurb:
http://zd.net/glJRJX
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jackaninny;626447 Wrote:
Sonos just added Airplay support to their current line via an Airport
Express setup.
That at least answers the will they licence AirPlay to competing music
streaming hardware companies question at least, assuming the report is
accurate about what they are actually
I was right to be somewhat suspicious of the announcement, it isn't
quite what it appears. Sonos aren't really implementing AirPlay. They
are just plugging an AirPort Express into the line in on one of their
boxes.
It would be nice if Sonos' claims in they press release were correct:
Different songs in different rooms, Sonos-style: Only on Sonos can you
play different music from your iTunes® library in different rooms of the
home. And it's been that way since 2005.
Unless I'm very much mistaken
andynormancx;626483 Wrote:
I was right to be somewhat suspicious of the announcement, it isn't
quite what it appears. Sonos aren't really implementing AirPlay. They
are just plugging an AirPort Express into the line in on one of their
boxes.
andynormancx;626485 Wrote:
It would be nice if Sonos' claims in they press release were correct:
Different songs in different rooms, Sonos-style: Only on Sonos can you
play different music from your iTunes® library in different rooms of the
home. And it's been that way since 2005.
bpa;607862 Wrote:
Airplay audio still uses the old AirTunes protocol aka RAOP. This used
to be open and a few open source projects were started and then the
protocol was encrypted and development stopped. Although recently new
efforts are being made to break the encryption such as RAOP
bpa;607862 Wrote:
It's about competition and control.
AFAIK Apple hasn't made an AirPlay player for a PC.
Airplay video has been hacked as the protocol is fairly open (so far)
and some basic non Apple clients have been built for Linux and Windows.
If competitive products to AppleTV
wsmknicks;607750 Wrote:
Isn't Apple now currently licensing AirPlay to all kinds of hardware
manufacturers?
The do. The question is: under which Terms Conditions
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It's about competition.
AFAIK Apple hasn't made an AirPlay player for a PC.
Airplay video has been hacked as the protocol is fairly open (so far)
and some basic non Apple clients have been built for Linux and Windows.
If competitive products to AppleTV start supporting Airplay perhaps
things
bernt;607853 Wrote:
I would love to have AirPlay on SBS even if I hate iTunes.
It would be a perfect way for my wife and kids (and guests) to play
their lossy crap files (music) on the SB.
Don't want them to mess with my perfect database and my perfect
flac library. ;)
multilibrary
Isn't Apple now currently licensing AirPlay to all kinds of hardware
manufacturers? I know this is a change from a few years ago.
It would be great to have AirPlay on my SBB!!!
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barisacar;605600 Wrote:
A USB cable? Are you kidding? Have you completely misunderstood the
point of AirPlay?! ;-) By that argument, there is no need for AirPlay
at all - just use a dock.
Note also that one can AirPlay things from my ipod other than just
music synced from iTunes. Several
I would love to have AirPlay on SBS even if I hate iTunes.
It would be a perfect way for my wife and kids (and guests) to play
their lossy crap files (music) on the SB.
Don't want them to mess with my perfect database and my perfect
flac library. ;)
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pski;605414 Wrote:
Rather than an airplay hook, why not make a guest folder that behaves
similar to the music folder except that browsing it does not
automajically add the tracts to the SBS database? Isn't the iTunes
music folder available to a PC via a USB cable?
A USB cable? Are you
Andy has said in a previous thread that Apple won't licence AirPlay to
them.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=594400postcount=47
I'm guessing Apple aren't keen for people to integrate AirPlay into
what is a competing eco system to the iTunes world.
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Yes, it will.
robotron2;605106 Wrote:
It would be great if I could stream audio from my iPod Touch or iPad to
the Squeezebox Server via Airplay.
Is Apple making it possible for third parties to build Airplay
reception into their devices?
Has anyone pondered this...it could make a very cool plugin.
andyg;605108 Wrote:
No, Apple does not make it possible.
Can you in that case explain how other companies can do speakers and
similar devices that support AirPlay ?
Sounds very similar to a Squeezebox supporting Airplay to me but I'm
probably missing something obvious.
I realize Logitech
garym;605194 Wrote:
but aren't all the tracks that are synched to your ipod or ipad already
on your local computer and thus part of your SB server setup already?
And any internet radio/pandora etc. from the ipod/ipad is also likely
available direct from SbS. I'm not sure what this would
erland;605328 Wrote:
Friend visiting who want me to hear a song on his/her iPhone maybe ?
For my local music library, which is available in SBS in FLAC format
instead of the AAC/MP3 format on the iPhone, I'll of course play it
through iPeng, Squeezepad or one of the other iPhone/iPad apps
pski;605414 Wrote:
Rather than an airplay hook, why not make a guest folder that behaves
similar to the music folder except that browsing it does not
automajically add the tracts to the SBS database? Isn't the iTunes
music folder available to a PC via a USB cable?
P
It's only the older
It would be great if I could stream audio from my iPod Touch or iPad to
the Squeezebox Server via Airplay.
Is Apple making it possible for third parties to build Airplay
reception into their devices?
Has anyone pondered this...it could make a very cool plugin.
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No, Apple does not make it possible.
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