thanks everyone, will be using Smart Gain whenever I do another party,
cheers :-:
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Musical Fidelity X-CAN v2
Great thread, thanks!!
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MrSinatra;658808 Wrote:
when you do RG, there's only two gain tag frames/fields, track and
album. thats it. (and two peak files that go with them to avoid
clipping).
all smart gain does is pick which one to use, based on upcoming
playlist. thats it.
so all its designed to do, is
pcourtney;658474 Wrote:
when I go into Player Settings/Audio
Volume Adjustment / Replay Gain
I am offered 3 possible settings for RG
1) Track
2) Album
3) Smart
If I am setting up a carefully constructed playlist (a mix of tracks)
and I don't think I would hardly ever have a
when you do RG, there's only two gain tag frames/fields, track and
album. thats it. (and two peak files that go with them to avoid
clipping).
all smart gain does is pick which one to use, based on upcoming
playlist. thats it.
so all its designed to do, is keep the user from manually having
just to thank everyone for the advice, the party went very well, without
a hitch, no drama, everyone happy :-
just to say a big hearty thanks to you all for helping me out on this
one!
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What did you end up doing?
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saved his wav collection onto my USB drive, then converted his wav's to
FLAC, and used Foobar ReplayGain, then copied all the files to a
VortexBox that I setup specially for the occasion, simples :-)
this was a helpful tutorial for me that I followed courtesy on Sonos
aubuti;658075 Wrote:
One more bit of advice: make sure those MP3s have replaygain tags. And,
assuming that you'll be playing a mix of tracks from various albums,
set the SBs to use either Track Gain or Smart Gain.
thanks, that was good advice, I used Smart Gain, even though some
advocate to
About the mono?
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JJZolx;658432 Wrote:
About the mono?
I did mention in message 10, that I did not have to worry about this in
the end, as to my big surprise the JBL Eon 15 G2 speakers that we hired
had two 1/4 input jacks and two-band equalization. This would normally
allow a live double act to reinforce
pcourtney;658427 Wrote:
thanks, that was good advice, I used Smart Gain, even though some
advocate to use Track Gain
If you were playing a mix of tracks, without consecutive tracks from
the same album in the _same_order_ as the album, then
SmartGain==TrackGain.
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aubuti;658466 Wrote:
If you were playing a mix of tracks, without consecutive tracks from the
same album in the _same_order_ as the album, then SmartGain==TrackGain.
And even if you had some of those, for the rest of your mix it was
effectively doing TrackGain. Which in this case, is Smart.
did u use smart crossfading?
i'd like to see a beat mixing plugin.
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using:
sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b -
win7 ie9 xp pro sp3 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 -
d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac
::VOTE FOR 'BUG
pcourtney;657984 Wrote:
2 reasons, one because we can, a fast ethernet network should be able to
handle this, no other users or computers, just my iPad, and 10
receivers, if SBS cannot handle it, then I reckon SBS has much bigger
problems with the whole architecture of how it's been coded in
JJZolx;657983 Wrote:
No, there are definitely 10 streams going out over the network. Each
player must be sent its own stream. There's only one conversion
process, though. All streams send data from that one process. If the
network bandwidth used to send one 16/44.1 PCM stream is 1.411 Mbps,
pcourtney;657984 Wrote:
2 reasons, one because we can, a fast ethernet network should be able to
handle this, no other users or computers, just my iPad, and 10
receivers, if SBS cannot handle it, then I reckon SBS has much bigger
problems with the whole architecture of how it's been coded in
aubuti;657993 Wrote:
Did you mean 1TB? Personally I'd be more risk averse and convert them to
mp3 or stream as mp3. No one will notice the lossless/lossy difference
in a setting like that, but they will notice if you push the network
over its limit. But I have no doubt you'll choose the hard
Blisteringblue;658066 Wrote:
I'm no audiophile in any shape or form but I am an IT man and have to
agree with this one.
Surely in a party environment the music is a secondary event anyway?
People are there to celebrate a wedding, eat, drink and socialise?
They are not going to notice
thanks everyone for all the good advice, have explained this to him, and
we are converting about 7 hours worth of wav to mp3, when I did a test
for him this morning, he was very happy with the sound quality, yes
this was in his office at work, but all the same it sounded pretty
good, I think it
One more bit of advice: make sure those MP3s have replaygain tags. And,
assuming that you'll be playing a mix of tracks from various albums,
set the SBs to use either Track Gain or Smart Gain.
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pcourtney;657557 Wrote:
good to know, just a quickie, is that also the case if I am streaming
WAV to the ten SB Receivers ( no flac or sox ) , and the receiver just
receives the wav and decodes to PCM natively ?
Yes it is true, but why on earth would you want to stream wav in this
party
JJZolx;657574 Wrote:
Is what the case?
I think Phil is saying the opposite to you, that if there is no
transcoding going on, eg streaming native wav files to the receiver,
then only 1 synced stream is sent to all ten receivers, which is how it
should be IMHO
Quote: Originally Posted by
You mean Andy?
No, there are definitely 10 streams going out over the network. Each
player must be sent its own stream. There's only one conversion
process, though. All streams send data from that one process. If the
network bandwidth used to send one 16/44.1 PCM stream is 1.411 Mbps,
then
Phil Leigh;657848 Wrote:
Yes it is true, but why on earth would you want to stream wav in this
party setup?
2 reasons, one because we can, a fast ethernet network should be able
to handle this, no other users or computers, just my iPad, and 10
receivers, if SBS cannot handle it, then I reckon
pcourtney;657984 Wrote:
a lot these are old vinyl LP's that have been ripped to a hard drive
using the clever little USB PhonoPlus
http://solodeals.com/USB-PhonoPlus-V2-ARTcessory/M/B000BBGCCI.htm
I have one of these too that I got a few years ago. It's a great
sounding strudy little
pcourtney;657984 Wrote:
and two because the 1gb USB drive he has given me to look at is chock
full of wav files,
Did you mean 1TB? Personally I'd be more risk averse and convert them
to mp3 or stream as mp3. No one will notice the lossless/lossy
difference in a setting like that, but they will
SuperQ;657261 Wrote:
Yea, it should be fine to combine the output this way.. but it might be
easier to mix to mono using a custom file type in SoX. It would also
eliminate your worry about the plugs.
Ok, I had to try this. I tested it using the Sheffield/XLO Test
Burn-in CD, which has
oh that is very cool JJ, thank you very much.
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SBS Remote Control via an iPad2 and Logitech app
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Musical Fidelity X-CAN v2 Headphone Amps x 3
Just be aware:
With 10 players, even if they're all sync'd together, SBS is sending
out 10 individual audio streams. This means that your server will be
running 10 of the above conversion processes. You'll have 10 instances
of Flac (decoding Flac) and 10 instances of SoX (mixing and encoding
will test tonight and report back, if it fails I may have to install SBS
7.6.1 on a more powerful 2U Intel Server we have at work, lucky I have
one spare, thanks for the heads up.
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JJZolx;657432 Wrote:
Just be aware:
With 10 players, even if they're all sync'd together, SBS is sending
out 10 individual audio streams. This means that your server will be
running 10 of the above conversion processes. You'll have 10 instances
of Flac (decoding Flac) and 10 instances of
Only 1 thing to mention about your original idea with the plugs, since
you only get 1 channel, if you were to play for instance something from
an early stereo Beatles album, you might end up with just music or just
vocals depending on which channel you are using for your output. Which
is kinda
andyg;657448 Wrote:
Actually if they are synced, you should only have 1 flac+sox conversion
running.
Good news. Thanks.
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rayman1701;657450 Wrote:
Only 1 thing to mention about your original idea with the plugs, since
you only get 1 channel, if you were to play for instance something from
an early stereo Beatles album, you might end up with just music or just
vocals depending on which channel you are using for
andyg;657448 Wrote:
Actually if they are synced, you should only have 1 flac+sox conversion
running.
good to know, just a quickie, is that also the case if I am streaming
WAV to the ten SB Receivers ( no flac or sox ) , and the receiver just
receives the wav and decodes to PCM natively ?
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pcourtney;657557 Wrote:
good to know, just a quickie, is that also the case if I am streaming
WAV to the ten SB Receivers ( no flac or sox ) , and the receiver just
receives the wav and decodes to PCM natively ?
Is what the case? If there's no conversion process to run then there
would be no
I have been asked to help provide the music at a wedding this weekend,
and this will involve about ten receivers (SB Duets) , luckily I can
use ethernet that is already in place in every main room, and I can run
some more Cat5 where I need it, I have my own 24 port switch that will
act as the hub
Yea, it should be fine to combine the output this way.. but it might be
easier to mix to mono using a custom file type in SoX. It would also
eliminate your worry about the plugs.
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