Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
5 months ago I wrote this http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102381-Tidal-Hi-Resolution-Streams-available-on-ickStream-soon-for-all-Squeezebox-users!=814752=1#post814752 and this bugreport https://bugs.ickstream.com/issues/380 was made by the ickstream team. Is it possible to get the bug fixed (this year) ? Please :cool: Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Mnyb wrote: There seems to be a problem with ickstreams WIMP plugin VS logitechs ? Many albums shows just empty and there is no tracks aviable ? Lots of content missing . Example Keb Mo The Door works fine with official plugin not with ickstreams wimp . FYI using lms 7.9 on Linux from Sweden . Same i Denmark. Works with official Wimp plugin but not through Ickstream. It Works fine through Tidal and Ickstream with wimp hifi account. Great album by the way :) LOVE Keb' Mo' Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
We are talking to WiMP/TIDAL support, we are getting some weird results from their API, let's hope they'll find something --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Curious to see which streaming service might succeed. Although I like high quality music streaming I think I won't convince myself to pay something like 20 bugs a month for tidal. Anyway it is good that there is a possibility to integrate :) Schwarzenegger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Mnyb wrote: There seems to be a problem with ickstreams WIMP plugin VS logitechs ? Many albums shows just empty and there is no tracks aviable ? Lots of content missing . Example Keb Mo The Door works fine with official plugin not with ickstreams wimp . FYI using lms 7.9 on Linux from Sweden . Same issue for me. Does not work with ickstream Tidal either. I live in Norway, LMS 7.8.0 on win7 terjehaa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17451 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
There seems to be a problem with ickstreams WIMP plugin VS logitechs ? Many albums shows just empty and there is no tracks aviable ? Lots of content missing . Example Keb Mo The Door works fine with official plugin not with ickstreams wimp . FYI using lms 7.9 on Linux from Sweden . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: I've heard this before but for the life of me can't reproduce it or find any errors in the logs. I wonder whether it's about timeouts or country restrictions or the like. The Door with Keb Mo . IckStream Wimp : http://192.168.1.50:9000/plugins/ickstream/index.html?index=4.10_Keb%2520Mo.0.0.10player=00%3A04%3A20%3A22%3A26%3Addsess= Logitech Wimp : http://192.168.1.50:9000/plugins/wimp/index.html?index=596cb3a8.13_Keb%2520Mo.0.0.0.11player=00%3A04%3A20%3A22%3A26%3Addsess= This is consistently reproducible at my place about 50% if this artist albums does not work . What kind of log do you suggest ? is this good enough debug on everything ickstream while selecting this album +---+ |Filename: server.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18350| +---+ Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
This is indeed interesting. I can reproduce it. It works fine with Tidal but not WiMP, which surprises me. We'll have to look into this. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I've heard this before but for the life of me can't reproduce it or find any errors in the logs. I wonder whether it's about timeouts or country restrictions or the like. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: I haven't seen or heard about #1 so far. #2 is probably to keep response times when looking up playlists at bay, we'll have to see what's doable there. No. 1 is one of those intermittent problems so beloved by both tech support and customers. :) As per a suggestion on the ickStream Forum, I have turned debug logging on. john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I haven't seen or heard about #1 so far. #2 is probably to keep response times when looking up playlists at bay, we'll have to see what's doable there. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I've been accessing Tidal though ickStream for 2 weeks now, and I have 2 issues to report. 1. A couple of times a day while listening to Tidal via ickStream, I will lose connection to the LMS. When this happens, and I try to open up the web control, it generally cannot open the page. After perhaps 5-10 minutes the music will start up again and the page will load. This would happen on occasion even before I added ickStream, but much less often, and the reconnection would happen more quickly. My LMS is connected to my router via Ethernet. 2. IckStream seems to limit playlists to 200 tracks (although Tidal can handle larger playlists). Perhaps I should explain why this is a problem for me. There are quite a few classical mega-boxes on Tidal with more than 200 tracks. For instance, I discovered the problem when I tried to listen to Haydn's Symphony No. 75 from the Dorati cycle (425 tracks in total). It would not play. It didn't matter whether I selected the box set as an album or created a playlist for it. Ultimately the only way I could play it was to create a playlist using the web interface of the entire box and then delete (1 by 1) the first 200 tracks. FYI - LMS is set for playlists of up to 750 tracks. john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Still sounds like a roon issue. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: I think that's rather a roon quirk. AAC will very unlikely be anything but 44.1 There's further information now in the thread I linked to above. It all seems rather strange. john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: I doubt that. Are you sure that someone didn't mix up sample rate and frequency ceiling, which is half of the sample rate? Here's the link. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/strange-roon-conversion-22-05-khz-44-1-khz-24596/ john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I think that's rather a roon quirk. AAC will very unlikely be anything but 44.1 --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I couldn't figure out how to search for this, so pardon me if it has been asked and answered. I have seen some reports that some Tidal tracks have a frequency of 22.05khz (i.e. half of 44.1khz). That seems very odd to me, as I should think a lot of DACs are not designed for that. Is it true, and if so, how does LMS/ickStream handle it? john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I doubt that. Are you sure that someone didn't mix up sample rate and frequency ceiling, which is half of the sample rate? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: We'll have to look at the search, I don't know how much of that is configurable. The Favorites are on the To-Do-List As a matter of fact the Wimp plugin is working properly again. I think the ickStream will be a nice aggregator if those issues are getting resolved. Thanks for your answers! mapebu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
We'll have to look at the search, I don't know how much of that is configurable. The Favorites are on the To-Do-List --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
justwords wrote: I use lms on my nas Western digital myBook Live NAS, which does run debian but not on arm. Which plugin might work? The Western digital myBook Live NAS seems to run on an Micro APM82181 CPU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Digital_My_Book , http://c1170156.r56.cf3.rackcdn.com/UK_AMC_APM82181-SKE1000T_DS.pdf), if this is the case its probably not going to work, as ickStream only supports Intel and ARM CPU's (http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_Squeezebox_Installation) We'll check how much effort it would take to support it and if it makes sense. Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A world of music at your fingertips. remd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: Yesterday we rolled out a change so that ickStream now also includes support for the TIDAL Rising ( https://listen.tidalhifi.com/rising ) and TIDAL Discovery ( http://listen.tidalhifi.com/discovery ) features. If you are using ickStream on a Squeezebox System: the menus are cached so might only show up after a while, if you want to get them immediately, please restart your server. You can of course still get 30 day test vouchers for TIDAL through ickStream: http://blog.ickstream.com/ I use lms on my nas Western digital myBook Live NAS, which does run debian but not on arm. Which plugin might work? Logitech Media Server Version: 7.8.0 - 1362754234 on Western Digital MyBook Live NAS 3TB, 3 x Squeezebox Radio, 3 x Squeezebox Duet, iPeng (iOS), Squeeze Play (Android), SqueezeRemote (Windows Phone, Windows 8) justwords's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52020 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Yesterday we rolled out a change so that ickStream now also includes support for the TIDAL Rising ( https://listen.tidalhifi.com/rising ) and TIDAL Discovery ( http://listen.tidalhifi.com/discovery ) features. If you are using ickStream on a Squeezebox System: the menus are cached so might only show up after a while, if you want to get them immediately, please restart your server. You can of course still get 30 day test vouchers for TIDAL through ickStream: http://blog.ickstream.com/ --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Jeff Flowerday wrote: It's the same way in the iPhone app, no browsable list of artists or albums. You have to search, go through what's new or genres. Unter Artists and Albums you will see only those artists and albums you have marked as favorite. I think this is fine. Was is missing, however, is the possibility to have a substructur in your favorite albums and artists. I would like to have the possibility to define folders of different favorite artists/albums, eg. of the same genre. Of course, I would also like to have the choice to search for new music in browsable lists of artists or albums. Via search I can find only albums and artists I know. --- 1 transporter with touch for controlling, 1 squeezebox 3 6 squeezebox radio 3 squeezebox controllers (+ a number of different squeezebox spares) ipeng on IPhones and IPads LMS with MusicIP under Windows Home Server 2011 on Dell PowerEdge 840 Server (Quad core Xenon X3210 @ 2.13 GHz, 8 GB RAM) ripping software: DBPowerAmp, tag editing software: TagRename Otto-Wilhelm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: We are talking about WiMP HiFi accounts, don't we? yes Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
callesoroe wrote: yes Yes we are ... Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Is there anything else I have to do to get the content to show up under artists and albums etc? I'm getting a no content available message. *squeezelite-sotm usb-devialet 200-focal 1028be speakers* Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Jeff Flowerday wrote: Is there anything else I have to do to get the content to show up under artists and albums etc? I'm getting a no content available message. Nevermind, I assume it's a Tidal thing. Seems only Featured is working through squeezebox. no, other things too. But I had same confusion. One has to SEARCH for an artist. Then choose artist, albums, tracks, etc. Simply clicking on ARTIST at top menu level doesn't take you to a browsable list of artists...it just shows no content. But you can add artists, albums, etc. to your own playlists and they show up in LMS Tidal. Seems like favoriting an artist or album doesn't make it show up automatically in LMS tidal *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.9 Squeezelite *Spares:* Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 iPadAir2 (iPeng8 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
garym wrote: no, other things too. But I had same confusion. One has to SEARCH for an artist. Then choose artist, albums, tracks, etc. Simply clicking on ARTIST at top menu level doesn't take you to a browsable list of artists...it just shows no content. But you can add artists, albums, etc. to your own playlists and they show up in LMS Tidal. Seems like favoriting an artist or album doesn't make it show up automatically in LMS tidal It's the same way in the iPhone app, no browsable list of artists or albums. You have to search, go through what's new or genres. *squeezelite-sotm usb-devialet 200-focal 1028be speakers* Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: You are trying to access Tidal with a WiMP account, right? We have to investigate whether this works right away or whether we have to do anything special to do that but haven't heard back on it from Tidal, it's the Holidays, you know :) But the two services should be the same. Hi! Yes but it seems to work for Peiter... so it is a bit strange. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
We are talking about WiMP HiFi accounts, don't we? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
The world is coming to an end. Why? Because I can no longer import the playlists that I have created/saved in Spotify. The import function no longer works with Tidal. This was from customer support: Hello, That feature is not available at the moment, but you can browse the several expertly curated playlists thats on the TIDAL app. Best Regards, Joe TIDAL Support Any ideas on a workaround? Brooks bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Correct understood. I'm looking for the PCM VBR, FLAC when FLAC files are streamed or the 256k CBR, MP3 when MP3 files are streamed ... instead of the Zer0 I'm getting now. Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Peiter wrote: Tidal sent me an email the other day, now my WiMP HiFi credentials are also valid for Tidal. I then installed ickStream plugin for LMS 7.8.1 without problems. Many thanks to the ickstream team ... well done! Hi Peiter! How did you get Tidal to work. I can not se my Tidal access through Ickstream. Only my Wimp access. Se my post here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102497-Announcement-ickStream-open-beta-release-on-Squeezebox-!/page29 I have enabled Tidal and entered my credentials, but I can not see my players. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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callesoroe wrote: Hi Peiter! How did you get Tidal to work. I can not se my Tidal access through Ickstream. Only my Wimp access. Se my post here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102497-Announcement-ickStream-open-beta-release-on-Squeezebox-!/page29 I have enabled Tidal and entered my credentials, but I can not see my players. Hello Michael I just followed the guide at http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_Squeezebox_Installation Maybe the ickStream team can help you if you ask in http://forum.ickstream.com/viewforum.php?f=11 Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
callesoroe wrote: Hi Peiter! How did you get Tidal to work. I can not se my Tidal access through Ickstream. Only my Wimp access. Se my post here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102497-Announcement-ickStream-open-beta-release-on-Squeezebox-!/page29 I have enabled Tidal and entered my credentials, but I can not see my players. You can send an email about it and share your ickStream account to supp...@ickstream.com and we'll look into it. Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A world of music at your fingertips. remd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Peiter wrote: Hello Michael I just followed the guide at http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_Squeezebox_Installation Maybe the ickStream team can help you if you ask in http://forum.ickstream.com/viewforum.php?f=11 Hmm As you can see on my screenshots. I have done all that... ? My I will try to uninstall and install the plugin. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
You are trying to access Tidal with a WiMP account, right? We have to investigate whether this works right away or whether we have to do anything special to do that but haven't heard back on it from Tidal, it's the Holidays, you know :) But the two services should be the same. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Is it possible to make ickStream Tidal/WiMP playback to show similar information as M.Herger has done with his WiMP plugin ? Please :) If all you're looking for is the PCM VBR, FLAC, then you can put a sticker on your screen. It's a hard coded value only controlled by the lossless flac in a stream. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Is it not there ? maybe you have to go to more info in a menu to see that . It can actually be different , they are not 100% flac yet but rely somewhat on users to report when there is an mp3 track in your hifi service Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Tidal sent me an email the other day, now my WiMP HiFi credentials are also valid for Tidal. I then installed ickStream plugin for LMS 7.8.1 without problems. Many thanks to the ickstream team ... well done! Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I have a change request relating to the display of playback information in LMS: Here playback via Tidal, designed by ickStream 17841 And here WiMP, designed by M.Herger 17842 Is it possible to make ickStream Tidal/WiMP playback to show similar information as M.Herger has done with his WiMP plugin ? Please :) My player information: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.8.1 - 1427865313 @ Thu Apr 2 03:04:51 CUT 2015 Værtsnavn: Ultrabook Serverens IP-adresse: 10.0.1.115 Serverens HTTP-portnummer: 9000 Styresystem: Windows 8 - DA - cp1252 Platformarkitektur: 8664 Perl-version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Databaseversion: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) +---+ |Filename: WiMP.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17842| +---+ Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
For those who haven't tried out TIDAL and High-Fidelity streaming yet, you can get a 30 day Free Voucher from your ickStream account. More details from our newsletter or 'on our blog' (http://blog.ickstream.com/index.php?post/2015/04/03/ickStream-Tidal-Hi-Fidelity-streaming-promotion) Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A world of music at your fingertips. remd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Peiter wrote: WiMP HiFi has a known issue that it is far from all the music that is in FLAC quality (about 20% are still in MP3. The 20% is confirmed by a DK HiFi dealer for about half a year ago). Can it be confirmed with certainty that Tidal is exclusively FLAC streaming? / P Got this confirmed today WIMP HIFI is currently 80% FLAC . what you can do is to report mp3 only music when you find it and hopefully they fix it . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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WiMP HiFi has a known issue that it is far from all the music that is in FLAC quality (about 20% are still in MP3. The 20% is confirmed by a DK HiFi dealer for about half a year ago). Can it be confirmed with certainty that Tidal is exclusively FLAC streaming? / P Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Tidal should be exactly the same as Wimp, so also plenty pf mp3 content left. If you want all-FLAC then go with Qobuz or maybe wait for Deezer Elite. Qobuz is great, but they have some gaps in their catalogue that others don't... CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Squeezemenicely wrote: Sorry for crashing this thread. But I simply cannot get rad.io to play any music. I am using the updated plugin, but no sound. Rad.io (now Radio.net in ickStream) should now work again through the ickStream plugin. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
a question, i'm on 7.2.2, i'm not a beta tester, could i use ickstream? which the difference between using www.mysqueezebox or ickstream? can i use both? Touchx3,Boomx2,1 radio, 1 classic!Squeezebox Server 7.7.2 (Qnap ts-119) nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Yes, you can use both. It's an open beta so anybody with a Squeezebox can use it. It works through a server-side plugin so you can't use it without the server running, right now. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Sorry for crashing this thread. But I simply cannot get rad.io to play any music. I am using the updated plugin, but no sound. LMS 7.9.0 on Wandboard (SoA) Synology DS-410j NAS Squeezebox Touch, Squeezebox Boom, Squeezebox Radio, HifiBerry PicorePlayer Schiit - BIFROST Dac Spotify Premium iPhone: iPeng - iPad: Squeezepad, iPengHD Squeezemenicely's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
thanks but i can't seem to see the ickstream plusin in the plugin section of lms Touchx3,Boomx2,1 radio, 1 classic!Squeezebox Server 7.7.2 (Qnap ts-119) nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
hi i'm interested in using tidal on squeezebox what should i do? is there a plugin? Touchx3,Boomx2,1 radio, 1 classic!Squeezebox Server 7.7.2 (Qnap ts-119) nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
nervoteso wrote: hi i'm interested in using tidal on squeezebox what should i do? is there a plugin? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102497-Announcement-ickStream-open-beta-release-on-Squeezebox-! even if the tidal site says this about italy: Currently access in your country is limited to HiFi Partner voucher holders only. If you have a voucher, please sign-up here: how could i have a voucher? We are working on it. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Cheers. I just needed to restart the Joggler's squeezeplay interface for it to notice :) charlesr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
charlesr wrote: Any chance of having a ickstream as an App that is installable via mysqueezebox? I use a Joggler to control my music, but I can't use it to control Tidal because it doesn't appear on the menu. It should work if you connect the Joggler to the same server. The ickStream plugin then should show up under My Apps. It's unlikely TIDAL is coming to MySqueezebox.com. The Apps on MySB are not installable, they essentially run on MySB and Logitech probably won't add any new services there since the Squeezebox is a long discontinued product. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Any chance of having a ickstream as an App that is installable via mysqueezebox? I use a Joggler to control my music, but I can't use it to control Tidal because it doesn't appear on the menu. Works great from the PC interface though - I compared the quality of a 320 stream from Spotify premium to the Tidal version on the same album and the difference is WORLDS apart. So much better. charlesr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Tidal is now available in Belgium, The Netherlands, Luxembourg, Finland and Ireland. 'ickStream' (http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_Squeezebox) has also expanded support for Tidal to these countries, so enjoy HighDefinition streaming on your Squeezebox if you are in one of the supported countries! Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A world of music at your fingertips. remd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Tidal is now 'available in Canada ' (https://www.facebook.com/TidalHiFi/photos/a.1516277531956825.1073741828.1469901979927714/1517387021845876/?type=1). 'ickStream' (http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_Squeezebox) has also expanded support for Tidal to Canada, so Squeezebox users can now listen to Tidal in the US, UK and Canada. Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A world of music at your fingertips. remd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
CommanderROR wrote: What do you mean with native? I mean an app on SBT without having to go through ickstream. Maybe that wasn't ever being worked on - I thought someone said it was. dschamis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57485 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Got TIDAL working on my SBT via ickstream - was pretty easy and works well - does anyone know if a native version is coming any time soon? dschamis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57485 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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What do you mean with native? CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Just a brief question about Wimp HiFi Plugin... Wimp Support told me that they have added a Radio mode for Wimp. I did not see that in the Plugin. Can it be added or isn't it part of the API? CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
CommanderROR wrote:
Just a brief question about Wimp HiFi Plugin...
Wimp Support told me that they have added a Radio mode for Wimp. I did
not see that in the Plugin. Can it be added or isn't it part of the
API?
We will put it on the list, if my interpretation is correct it's part of
the API so it should just be a matter of implementing it.
It exists in the API both for WiMP and TIDAL so when we implement it we
should be able to support it in both services.
Thanks for the feedback.
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(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
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Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Thank you! The missing Radio mode was my main complaint with Wimp, apart from the incomplete FLAC selection and the can't skip inside tracks bug. So, maybe there is hope for Wimp after all...they should pay you... ;) CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
meltsheep wrote: I've got icktream working for TIDAL and Qobuz. Albums were streaming as mp3 but I seem to be getting mainy FLAC now! Very confusing. See the post above yours: The streams were wrongly reported as mp3 in an older version of the ickStream plugin, they were actually primarily FLAC all the time. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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It's supposed to be, but quite a few titles are still mp3/aac sadly. Just saw this posting by Tidal/WiMP's Pål Bråtelund: ... The ironic thing is that we had to ingest everything again for TIDAL that we already had in the WiMP service to get territory rights for US correct. What could have been an afternoon's worth of database work turned out to be two months of chewing the same files again. That's why you see effects like this, Steven. But every day, tens of thousands of files are coming alive on TIDAL. Might explain why some of you are missing pieces. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Theoretically yes. But Wimp is also pretty bad on QC, I reported various Albums that were mp3 back in January, and they still are mp3...they claim their whole catalogue is FLAC, but that's sadly far from the truth. I do believe them on the Tidal Database thingy though. Regional restrictions on music/video/games/books are just pan silly in this day and age, but it will be with for a long time to come... CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimmypowder wrote: I have to say there were a couple of albums that sounded better on Spotify . Well, that's a common misunderstanding WRT lossless vs. lossy, right? I mean: lossless tracks are not supposed to sound _better_, they are supposed to be closer to the original recordings. To the contrary, lossy codecs have been developed by using methodology picking the encodings that sounded best to test listeners (at least mp3, but I believe for ogg and AAC they also ran listening tests). So having a lossy album/track sound better isn't really unexpected. It's just not as close to the original in that case... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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@pippin That is actually very true. The first recording in the Wimp HiFi test sounded better to my ears in the lossy version, because it was less noisy. I would have taken that noise as compression artefacts, but it was most likely part of the original recording. CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Regarding FLAC streams on Tidal being being reported as mp3: I've just now selected a playlist, and its reported as FLAC. Earlier, I updated the ickstream plugin; did this fix the FLAC/mp3 reporting? Living room: SB Touch, Audiolab 8000A (c1985) + TDL RTL3 speakers. Dining room: SB Boom. Kitchen: SB Radio 1/3, with battery. Bedroom 1: SB Radio 2/3, no battery. Bedroom 2: SB3, AE 2.1. speakers. Bedroom 3: Slim Devices SB3, Edirol MA-15D powered monitors. Bathroom: SB Radio 3/3 (in white), with (and running on) battery. LMS v7.8.0 on WHS 2011 running on HP Proliant N40L (1.5GHz, 8GB). Furry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11328 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Furry wrote: Regarding FLAC streams on Tidal being being reported as mp3: I've just now selected a playlist, and its reported as FLAC. Earlier, I updated the ickstream plugin; did this fix the FLAC/mp3 reporting? Edit: just remembered there's a an ickstream forum. Checked there; the answer is 'yes'. Qobuz via ickstream is mp3. And I've added Tidal to my list of services but the icon doesn't appear. I don't know id ickstream want to make money out of their product but to me it seems to be barely alpha quality at the moment. Do I need to use a specific version of squeezeboxserver? meltsheep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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There is a test up at http://www.hifisoundtesten.de/ It's AAC 320kbit vs FLAC and quite interesting, despite the fact that I did not like any of the samples... ;) I ran the test twice, once with heaphones, then again with my NuPros. Surprisingly I got 3 out of 5 on both runs, and the same 3 out of 5. I got Nr. 1 and 5 wrong both times. If you can spare a moment, try it and share your results! What this shows is, that I can actually hear the difference, and could even reproduce the results. Also interesting, that I preferred the lossy version on Track 1, while in Track 5 I just wasn't sure what I liked better. CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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CommanderROR wrote: There is a test up at http://www.hifisoundtesten.de/ It's AAC 320kbit vs FLAC and quite interesting, despite the fact that I did not like any of the samples... ;) I ran the test twice, once with heaphones, then again with my NuPros. Surprisingly I got 3 out of 5 on both runs, and the same 3 out of 5. I got Nr. 1 and 5 wrong both times. If you can spare a moment, try it and share your results! What this shows is, that I can actually hear the difference, and could even reproduce the results. Also interesting, that I preferred the lossy version on Track 1, while in Track 5 I just wasn't sure what I liked better. Got em all right but there were a couple I probably guessed at. The Eagles one was easy. jimmypowder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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By the way,using Tidal for music discovery is bad. Also,I downloaded several albums in HIFI and I have no doubt that a couple of them were not lossless. Im wondering if some of their music library is not in lossless format. Anyone know if its all supposed in be in lossless? jimmypowder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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It's supposed to be, but quite a few titles are still mp3/aac sadly. CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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CommanderROR wrote: It's supposed to be, but quite a few titles are still mp3/aac sadly. Well then it's hardly worth 20 bucks a month to me . jimmypowder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimmypowder wrote: Well then it's hardly worth 20 bucks a month to me . I have to say there were a couple of albums that sounded better on Spotify . I have Spotify's family plan of three accounts for 19.99 , now that's a deal jimmypowder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cymbop wrote: I was able to get subscribed to Tidal and install the Ickstream plugin within an hour or so. Minor hiccup when the Ickstream platform itself seemed to go down for a while, and I had to futz with the FLAC playback settings within the LMS Advanced tab to get all tracks to play. But with patience came triumph. In terms of interface convenience, it's on par with Spotify via SBT. The search function is clunkier and tends to cast a wide net for hits and return much more than you are looking for, but no big deal. Tidal via SBT does have access to curated playlists that Spotify via SBT does not. Plus for me. I did not do a direct comparison with Spotify for sound quality, but after an hour of listening it felt surely better, more three dimensional. Upper frequencies seemed accentuated slightly. I did an A/B/A between Tidal and a couple of familiar FLAC tracks ripped to my local hard drive and accessed via Touch. Unfortunately, the hard-drive rips won by a small but definite margin with better detail retrieval and overall a more pure and clean presentation. So I am slightly disappointed that at this moment the lossless streaming available to me does not equal the best fidelity I've had at home, but I will go forward with Tidal for sure. I would agree that Tidal's audio quality is not quite as good as a ripped cd on your computer . But it sounds significantly better then Spotify . I have to tell you I wonder if Spotify isn't cheating premium users with a fair amount of stuff that's not encoded at 320 . It seems to me that recently their audio quality has suffered . jimmypowder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I was able to get subscribed to Tidal and install the Ickstream plugin within an hour or so. Minor hiccup when the Ickstream platform itself seemed to go down for a while, and I had to futz with the FLAC playback settings within the LMS Advanced tab to get all tracks to play. But with patience came triumph. In terms of interface convenience, it's on par with Spotify via SBT. The search function is clunkier and tends to cast a wide net for hits and return much more than you are looking for, but no big deal. Tidal via SBT does have access to curated playlists that Spotify via SBT does not. Plus for me. I did not do a direct comparison with Spotify for sound quality, but after an hour of listening it felt surely better, more three dimensional. Upper frequencies seemed accentuated slightly. I did an A/B/A between Tidal and a couple of familiar FLAC tracks ripped to my local hard drive and accessed via Touch. Unfortunately, the hard-drive rips won by a small but definite margin with better detail retrieval and overall a more pure and clean presentation. So I am slightly disappointed that at this moment the lossless streaming available to me does not equal the best fidelity I've had at home, but I will go forward with Tidal for sure. cymbop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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CommanderROR wrote: Not true. If I take two CDs with the same name, cover, production year, tracks and everything and put them in the same player, then I expect them to sound the same. If they don't, I'll buy the one that sounds better to my ears. I don't really care why one service sounds better, as long as it does. One album can sound better on Qbuz and antoher can sound better on wimp, depending on the material they received from The Record Companies. So comparing is only possible, if you test with same raw material. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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callesoroe wrote: One album can sound better on Qbuz and antoher can sound better on wimp, depending on the material they received from The Record Companies. So comparing is only possible, if you test with same raw material. That was the point really , they apparently do not have the same raw material or process it differently ,now why is that ? or rather do any service really know or or actually actively partake in the process of aquaring material and what is the post process if any ? Or do they just provide an upload service for the labels and leave it at that ? And then what anything else done ? For the usual music service it's not to bad leave it to the labels and artist to present their material as they see fit, it's their call . But if you call anything a Hifi service you committed yourself to some higher standards the lossles vs lossy format thing is a marketting ruse . The real deal would be if they actually acquired the best possible master or version of a given work or had several version to user to chose from . Unaltered by any post compression or volume change . For example if you sell a hifi service you must be well aware of the loudness war and that many labels do mincemeat of their old classics to modernise them and simply ask for the old CD master or anything else done prior to this craze . That would be part of the curating process . The streaming services are not exactly giving us the details on how its really done . which is a shame more quality controll and more transparency I would actually buy into such a service :) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Not true. If I take two CDs with the same name, cover, production year, tracks and everything and put them in the same player, then I expect them to sound the same. If they don't, I'll buy the one that sounds better to my ears. CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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OK, I'm 2 weeks+ into my Tidal 30 day trial. Will we see a public beta of ickStream soon? If not, I'll probably just cancel my Tidal subscription until I get a chance to check it out in my Squeezebox setup. Mike (1 SB3, 1 Duet, 1 Boom, 2 Touch, heavy use of iPeng on various iThings) mdconnelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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mdconnelly wrote: OK, I'm 2 weeks+ into my Tidal 30 day trial. Will we see a public beta of ickStream soon? If not, I'll probably just cancel my Tidal subscription until I get a chance to check it out in my Squeezebox setup. It is available now: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102497-Pre-announcement-ickStream-open-beta-release-on-Squeezebox-! More details and installation instructions at: http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_Squeezebox Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A world of music at your fingertips. remd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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CommanderROR wrote: Actually, what I really wanted was for somebody to verify the audible difference with this particular track. This is not about the service as a whole. Professional magazines already did that and found that both have their better and worse sounding tracks with Qobuz having a slight advantage. This question was more out of personal curiosity... ;) But it really do not tell anything. If you put two different versions of the same CD in a CD player. They sound different too. Even vinyl does. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Actually, what I really wanted was for somebody to verify the audible difference with this particular track. This is not about the service as a whole. Professional magazines already did that and found that both have their better and worse sounding tracks with Qobuz having a slight advantage. This question was more out of personal curiosity... ;) CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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CommanderROR wrote: Just a small item: Of someone is currently testing Qobuz vs Wimp/Tidal, could you please test the following track: Album: The Ultimate Star Trek Track 2: First Contact - End... Listen to the first couple of notes on both services and let me know what you hear. I did the comparison a couple of months ago, and that track sounded noticeably different to me... It must be the same version of the album, or you can not do a comparison. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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It is the same Album. That's the point... :) CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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callesoroe wrote: How do you really know that .. ??? correct. Different masterings (CDs released at different timesa 1990s version vs a new and improved (or not) version. I have lots of CDs that are the exact same album but different masterings (Fleetwood Mac, then play on, comes to mind. by the way, an example of the new mastering being WAY BETTER than the original CD version. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* several Touch, Radio, SB3 *Controllers:* iPhone4S iPad2 (iPeng7 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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CommanderROR wrote: It is the same Album. That's the point... :) How do you really know that .. ??? Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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But wasn't the point to compare the quality of the services. That would include masterings. Little sense in just comparing lossless vs. lossy, in the end it's the audio quality you get for the money that counts. If it's better, it's better, independent on what causes it. Also: don't forget that you might be more flexible in your mastering if you don't have to take potential compression artifacts into account. Although these usually affect lower bit rates much more. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin wrote: But wasn't the point to compare the quality of the services. That would include masterings. Little sense in just comparing lossless vs. lossy, in the end it's the audio quality you get for the money that counts. If it's better, it's better, independent on what causes it. Also: don't forget that you might be more flexible in your mastering if you don't have to take potential compression artifacts into account. Although these usually affect lower bit rates much more. I generally agree with your point. But a comparison of a specific album across the two services doesn't really tell you anything about the quality of the two services because the comparison *may* be confounded by the ignored variable of underlying album version. So the test would really be more about which service carries the *version* of the album you like best rather than which service is streaming a better quality track (i.e, without added compression, etc.). It may be that testing the latter is just fine. I'm just pointing out that your test is the joint test of both underlying mastering/version and streaming. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* several Touch, Radio, SB3 *Controllers:* iPhone4S iPad2 (iPeng7 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I have to admit that since you mentioned it I've seen an MP3 stream with TIDAL on at least one occasion, too. It just surprised me since I thought that they advertise to have everything in FLAC. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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They advertise that their entire catalogue is FLAC, but their CS is aware of the large gaps. The stupid thing is, they are not fixing it. I reported a couple of Albums that are only mp3 at the beginning of this year, and they're still mp3... CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
I'm considering writing an email to WiMP and ask them to get the catalog fully updated in FLAC and ask them to give me a date for when the catalog is updated. If WiMP can not meet the date they need to know they may be using false marketing. Is it too much to ask? Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Anyone have an ETA of TIDAL for Squeezebox Touch? dschamis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57485 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
Do you mean through the LMS plugin or the applet solution without the server? The former will come soonish... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
pippin wrote: Do you mean through the LMS plugin or the applet solution without the server? The former will come soonish... Either - is there an LMS plug-in now? dschamis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57485 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
@Pippin all this suspense around the launch of the ickstream beta is...interesting. I hope there won't be a big wave of dissappointment when it actually does hit. About Wimp/Tidal: I really hope here is a chance to test AAC streams on LMS again. Since FLAC isn't there for all tracks and the fallback is 256k mp3 (which is not worth 20 a month) this would be a great step forward. Since nobody knows exactly where the problem lies, it would prabably be tough to fix though. Is it a problem with LMS or is it the Players that are having trouble? Would it work with Squeezelite, but not with real Logitech hardware? My idea would be to offer it as a third choice. So far we can choose mp3 and FLAC or mp3. Adding a third path for AAC should be possible, mark it as beta or experimental and see if it works. Then you can attempt to find out why it does (or doesn't) work in certain circumstances. I guess you'd have to clarify with Wimp whether that would be possible. CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!
dschamis wrote: Either - is there an LMS plug-in now? Well, in our closed beta, yes, open beta coming soon. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102381 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
