Re: [slim] Voice command
DJanGo wrote: > Julf:'Already done' (https://jasperproject.github.io/) I guess the development was funded by NSA. :) "Jasper is always on, always listening for commands, and you can speak from meters away." "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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That Jasper thingy looks cool too and I like the way it uses a Pi , I wasn't aware of that :-) The Echo I love the idea of that as well , I'm in the UK so would have to ship one over . The Vox Commando software has been on the go for quite a few years now , I tried it maybe 4 years ago and it worked great with XBMC back then . I might give this a go myself at some point , I have an Acer Revo 3610 in the Kitchen on the back of a monitor that I could load the LMS on and the Vox Commando , then I have a O2 Joggler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_Joggler ( on top of a mini Sony hi fi in the Kitchen , then one on top of a technics in the bedroom and one on top of a Teac Amp in the Summer House ; I would love to get them all synced up playing at the same time with voice control too , just need the time to set it all up :-) Sent by SlimKat FirePhone hawsey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65277 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Julf wrote: > "Turn down the volume. I said TURN DOWN THE VOLUME!!" Julf: 'Already done' (https://jasperproject.github.io/) Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi , i am new on here ,:-) Has anyone tried using an automation program called Vox Commando with a Squeeze device ? There are some good videos showing it working on You Tube I know it works on Kodi and was wondering if Kodi plus XSqueeze would work , Vox Commando can also do full home Automation , I believe , it can use multiple devices as microphones , Kinnect , Android app on mobile , Remote control with mic , etc I would be really interested to know if anyone had tried this sort of thing . Thanks Sent by SlimKat FirePhone hawsey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65277 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Would like to see it as a native Alexa "skill" as well. Definitely could do some cool things with IFTTT, probably similar to what this guy did by hooking up Squeezebox as a "device" in his Vera: http://www.myzwave.net/index.php/adding-voice-control-to-vera-z-wave-systems-using-amazon-echo/ Very basic functionality that way... would be nice if you could pull in some information from your Squeezebox metadata into the Alexa grammar file. I.e., she would know the names of your players, maybe all of the artists and album titles (songs might be too much), favorites, playlist names, etc. Even better would be able to do some free search on Spotify or Rhapsody and have her pull in results and send them to the Squeezebox. Or maybe seed a Pandora artist station... possibilities are endless really. spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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netchord wrote: i wonder if this might be done using IFTTT? i have an Echo as well, and am really intrigued by all the things i might do with it. it's a completely frictionless interface, even more so than Siri, which requires a button push- and the possibilities are fascinating. Alex, tell Logitech to revive the Squeeze Platform! IFTTT would probably work as well, but I think the Amazon 'native' solution might be more simple. I will definitively give it a try at least faking a hue system like some other did, but not in the coming weeks LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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i wonder if this might be done using IFTTT? i have an Echo as well, and am really intrigued by all the things i might do with it. it's a completely frictionless interface, even more so than Siri, which requires a button push- and the possibilities are fascinating. Alex, tell Logitech to revive the Squeeze Platform! -- 4 TB Drobo--FW 800--mac mini--Ethernet Transporter-- Wireworld Eclipse 6 coax--Meridian G61 G61-- Nordost Red Dawn--Primare 30.3 Primare--Ocos--Vienna Acoustics Beethoven/Maestro netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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So I started to look a tiny bit at that. Seems that you need to add an Alexa Skill https://developer.amazon.com/public/solutions/alexa/alexa-skills-kit/getting-started-guide. Some have done that already for Sonos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlOBJJyulI4. Interesting, I might try my luck later with this :) LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Sync all players is a wonderful example for something that doesn't work. Plenty of unanswered questions in that command --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I started a thread a couple years ago and got yelled at by naysayers ;-) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?79734-Voice-Command-for-Squeezebox-Still-Not-Much-Interesthighlight=voice The key that I think is important is to make it non-comprehensive. Make it SIMPLE: It doesn't even have to be too complicated - I'm looking for commands like: Playlist Shane Favorites Random, Skip Track, Mute All, Sync All Players, Play Artist Pink Floyd, Play Album Dark Side of the Moon, etc. Sure there will be lots of easy ways to trip it up, but being able to say something like play favorite spa music would even be helpful... spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Voice command
Does somebody have plans to integrate things like Echo or Cortana into the LMS system ? I have an Echo and I see easily how I could use it for some controls :-) LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Personally, I'm hoping Amazon (or Logitech, or some 3rd party) does an integration between Echo and Harmony remotes. Then you could use voice controls for the managing the whole AV system... EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: Does somebody have plans to integrate things like Echo or Cortana into the LMS system ? I have an Echo and I see easily how I could use it for some controls :-) I praise your creativity. Your discussion on a 3D printed case for picore (other thread, earlier) made me think. I thought of a player/server that would include an iThing dock. Seemed too ambitious. However I went on fantasizing about a player/server that would include Bluetooth beacon tech (to get IPeng and others to automatically select the closest player). After a brief search I found 'this project' (https://github.com/etwmc/PersonalHomeKit). It appears Siri is in the realm of Homekit, as is iBeacon... Please don't take my word for it and check by yourself if you care. All of this is way over my head. On a personal note, I don't believe at all in voice command, but a lot in presence detection. Anyways. Always great to see new ideas and initiatives. 4 SB 3 iPeng (iPhone + iPad) Squeezebox Server 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld ShairTunes2 by disaster123 Local Player, BBC iPlayer by Triode Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Julf wrote: Turn down the volume. I said TURN DOWN THE VOLUME!! Yep ... I've been working with VR for the last 25 years and it drove me nuts, especially because every time, there was supposed to be *the* algorythm that will make it fully usable. But I have to admit that after using Echo for a while, it is surprisingly good even with a lot of background noise. I've not paid a lot of attention, but it seems that neural networks are now working thanks to the insane increase of CPU power. I used to work on that topic in mid 80's and although it was fun, computers at that time where clearly lacking performances LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Oh, voice recognition actually works and it has indeed already worked pretty well since the late 90s. The biggest issue is that you need a huge semantic database to compare with if you want to analyze more complex phrases which used to be a problem for mobile solutions but now that they all just send some meta-analyzed voice (or in the case of echo even the raw recordings) back to some server farm and do all the work there it's obviously more feasible, especially since you no longer have to replicate that database to all devices. The problem with VR is that it annoys everyone around you if you use it and speech is also pretty slow for a lot of tasks, I think that's more of a limitation than technology. And then... call me old fashioned, but I don't want to have the NSA run their bots over every piece of sound generated in my home, recorded by an array mike that even detects the faintest whisper in the edge of my appartment... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin wrote: Yea, sure, if I accept to not have an input device for voice but to allow it to listen to my whole home, that's a case, too. I know what you mean because it's actually the only reason I sometimes wear my Aplle Watch at home: to be able to quickly access basic player controls without having to grab for a device. Well, I've not bought yet an apple watch, but the main reason I might one day is to be able to use iPeng :-) Still don't use Siri on it, for some reason it's always set to the wrong language. Actually that's indeed the biggest unsolved issue for me: detecting languages. I switch between English and German all the time when writing and my devices are usually all set to English but then if you e.g. Want to search for a navigation destination in Berlin it simply doesn't recognize them because they have German names Same the other way around for music: if I set the language to German but then want to search for an Album with an English name you first have to go figure how Siri feels that name might be pronounced in German I know exactly what you mean, I have the same problem, with French obvsiouly, and this is really irritating LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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EricBergan wrote: Personally, I'm hoping Amazon (or Logitech, or some 3rd party) does an integration between Echo and Harmony remotes. Then you could use voice controls for the managing the whole AV system... Turn down the volume. I said TURN DOWN THE VOLUME!! To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin wrote: Actually I believe it's primarily _complex_ tasks where it shines. Simple tasks like changing volume are much easier done by a physical controller, especially given latency and need to repeat the command. But something more complex like a search which requires several steps when done through a haptic UI can get much faster with voice because you can phrase more complex commands in a sentence than a simplified UX will usually directly allow. Fair point, but don't you think that it can be very efficient for simple tasks because these require you to find your input device and then use your hands for a simple tap where voice would afford the same result while mobilizing much less resources ? I feel the efficency of voice as a UI does not vary linearly against complexity of the tasks. It is very situational, though. If I know what I want to listen to, VR is great. If I don't know exactly, vision + touch helps to embrace a larger amount of information / make choice much for efficiently, no ? LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Yea, sure, if I accept to not have an input device for voice but to allow it to listen to my whole home, that's a case, too. I know what you mean because it's actually the only reason I sometimes wear my Aplle Watch at home: to be able to quickly access basic player controls without having to grab for a device. Still don't use Siri on it, for some reason it's always set to the wrong language. Actually that's indeed the biggest unsolved issue for me: detecting languages. I switch between English and German all the time when writing and my devices are usually all set to English but then if you e.g. Want to search for a navigation destination in Berlin it simply doesn't recognize them because they have German names Same the other way around for music: if I set the language to German but then want to search for an Album with an English name you first have to go figure how Siri feels that name might be pronounced in German --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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epoch1970 wrote: I praise your creativity. Your discussion on a 3D printed case for picore (other thread, earlier) made me think. I thought of a player/server that would include an iThing dock. Seemed too ambitious. However I went on fantasizing about a player/server that would include Bluetooth beacon tech (to get IPeng and others to automatically select the closest player). After a brief search I found 'this project' (https://github.com/etwmc/PersonalHomeKit). It appears Siri is in the realm of Homekit, as is iBeacon... Please don't take my word for it and check by yourself if you care. All of this is way over my head. On a personal note, I don't believe at all in voice command, but a lot in presence detection. Anyways. Always great to see new ideas and initiatives. I agree that presence detection is a really nice thing and I would also gladly welcome that on my LMS system. I'm not supporting the idea of full voice command, as pointed by pippin, it can be much less efficient than haptics in many cases, but there are simple commands for which it is much faster. I also think that a multi-input UI is the best way to go, taking advantage of the most efficient mode for each situation LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin wrote: Oh, voice recognition actually works and it has indeed already worked pretty well since the late 90s. Multi-speakers, dealing with accent, noisy environment, text-to-recognition was still a big challenge till very recently (and still is a bit) and there is nothing that irriates people more than having to repeat the same thing a few times to then realize that something else was recognized. The biggest issue is that you need a huge semantic database to compare with if you want to analyze more complex phrases which used to be a problem for mobile solutions but now that they all just send some meta-analyzed voice (or in the case of echo even the raw recordings) back to some server farm and do all the work there it's obviously more feasible, especially since you no longer have to replicate that database to all devices. that's right ... The problem with VR is that it annoys everyone around you if you use it and speech is also pretty slow for a lot of tasks, I think that's more of a limitation than technology. A bit, but it is also very true if you have to speak loud slow - if you can use normal tune, then the annoying factor goes away a lot. Using voice as a UI can be slow in some cases, but there are many many simple tasks for where it is very convenient and where using any other sort of input system is slow painful - a sort of sweet spot for VR And then... call me old fashioned, but I don't want to have the NSA run their bots over every piece of sound generated in my home, recorded by an array mike that even detects the faintest whisper in the most remote corner... I understand that although I'm afraid anything we do is already scanned, unfortunately. I've given up hope on that LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: if you can use normal tune, then the annoying factor goes away a lot. I still feel it's awkward to start talking to a machine to control it when you are not alone. It can disturb others or raise did you talk to me? kind of confusion etc. I feel it's primarily for situations where you are alone. Here in Berlin's tech community I'm recently seeing quite a number of people using Siri on their Apple Watch in public and I can't help it, I'm annoyed by someone adding a reminder next to me. It's a bit like talking on the phone in public, a pest that fortunately got quite significantly reduced in recent years due to the fact that people now tend to use messaging instead... there are many many simple tasks where it is very convenient and where using any other sort of input system is slow painful - a sort of sweet spot for VR Actually I believe it's primarily _complex_ tasks where it shines. Simple tasks like changing volume are much easier done by a physical controller, especially given latency and need to repeat the command. But something more complex like a search which requires several steps when done through a haptic UI can get much faster with voice because you can phrase more complex commands in a sentence than a simplified UX will usually directly allow. I understand that although I'm afraid anything we do is already scanned, unfortunately. I've given up hope on that Oh, I'm pretty sure there are no microphones for mass surveillance in my home right now (never can be sure about _individual_ surveillance but that's a whole different topic). And saying I don't care just makes it too easy for them. Companies like Apple and recently to a certain degree also Google are trying hard to fight back on the privacy front, let's not spoil all that by not caring about even more severe intrusions. Phones and Watches at least only have near-field microphones, Echo OTOH... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
Phil Leigh;555610 Wrote: When I get home and open that well-earned bottle of burgandy/chablis I do NOT want to engage the hi-fi in conversation. It won't answer back. A conversation is a two way thang. :-) You use a keyboard a lot (I know), maybe you use more than two fingers...even if you do the it's a really awful way to communicate between your truly awesome brain (I know this too) and your PC (which is not quite as awesome, but getting better by the the month). It's taking a long time to get there but speech really is the way. Example: speech to Google app on iPhone Laughing Fish, Isfield, Tel. Then a touch to ring the pub to say that our walk is taking longer than we expected and we'll be 30 mins late for out reserved lunch table. Typing whilst walking is hard. I can do similar voice commands if I'm out by myself and want music (but I don't as the you can't beat the sound of the countryside). Beam me up Scotty. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Pippen and Snarly - both good points but not insurmountable. First of all, it would really be useful for me in the common situations in my household - usually simple commands. I would never use it to try and create a playlist or add tracks (which you're right, I don't always know the exact title of) but rather things like Playlist Shane Favorites or Play Radio Station KEXP or Play Podcast Jim Rome - sure it would need a little set up like naming your favorites correctly or naming your playlists correctly, etc. but nothing crazy. This would NEVER replace the controller or other interface for more complex things, but would be very nice for common everday things. As far as the microphone picking up unwanted things, this would be a non-issue because of isolating microphones (as Model mentioned) and having keywords or even a button press needed before speaking the command... I'll have to take a look at Homeseer and see how that would work... this hobby never ends right? -- spedinfargo spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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This is a pretty cool hack: http://badros.blogspot.com/2010/05/skype-as-whole-house-wireless.html -- spedinfargo spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
I don't want to talk to my bloody hi-fi! I spend all day talking to people. When I get home and open that well-earned bottle of burgandy/chablis I do NOT want to engage the hi-fi in conversation. I'm sorry, Phil, that track is unsuitable for your current mood :-) Now - as a usability aid for folks with limited motor function or visibility - absolutely! - very important. Get that working first. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
After trying to train my primary customer (spouse) on the Squeezebox with various interfaces (Presets on Radio, SB Controller, Ipeng) I keep coming back to what I think would be a killer usability feature: Voice Command for the Squeezebox platform. I saw an old thread that someone had played around with this at one point (2008) but haven't seen much about it recently. Anyone else think that this would be a worthwhile feature? I believe the new Iphones have something similar... we've all used voice command to make phone calls on various platforms... Microsoft has the Sync software in Ford vehicles. Voice Command works without training lately, so it's something that could really be something easy for users. It doesn't even have to be too complicated - I'm looking for commands like: Playlist Shane Favorites Random, Skip Track, Mute All, Sync All Players, Play Artist Pink Floyd, Play Album Dark Side of the Moon, etc. For some simple and common commands, Voice Command would be much faster than navigating menus, no matter how well presented those menus are. In some threads like this, there's always someone that comes up with examples of how a certain keyword in a song would cause undesired behavior What if they say 'stop' in the song?? but on any of these systems there is usually a button press or something similar that can easily distinguish a command from normal background noise or music. I think Voice Command continues to get better and better - someday I would love to see some way to run Squeezebox this way... Thoughts? -- spedinfargo spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
I've tried various voice command systems in the past and found them unnerving, slow, ambiguous and hard to learn. They never do what you just need and never fast enough. Voice commanding IMHO is a solution looking for a problem. It works for very limited applications call John smith but even there often not very good John Smith mobile, work or private? or call Genevieve Jennifer Miller or Jennifer Jones? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
I'm right behind you. For years I've found it incredible that we are have to use a stupidly limited keyboard to communicate from an amazingly complex human brain to an increasingly powerful computer. I've had my eyes on Dragon Dictate since before it was released for Windows in 1997. Unfortunately the promise of voice controlled computing power has still not been realised 13 years later. But, the iPhone has re-enthused me. I frequently use the iPhone and Google voice control to make telephone calls, play music and search the web. And it works very well for me (Southern English accent). In another thread I've made the point that I think single-use dedicated hardware controllers will soon become a thing of the past and that increasingly people will own their own personal hand-held touch-screen smart device (the iPhone leads the way) that they will use to control a whole host of things. Maybe a realistic option for Logitech is to release an iPhone and Droid app that enables voices controls on these devices. I'm sure it's possible but at this moment in time it would probably be a bit bleeding edge for a company such as Logitech and require much more resources than they have. However, it is pretty certain that voice control will eventually be the way we control our personal smart devices and the apps installed on them. Next session I'll expound on the merging of silicon, nano-technology and bio-technology and the amazing cyborg future this will almost inevitably bring the human race. (Personally I can't wait). MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
pippin;555331 Wrote: And this is NOT a technical issue, the issue is that a normal sentence needs too much context information to decipher (which the system doesn't have) or you as the user have to learn the systems syntax which can be very frustrating and is usually pretty limited. It's not insurmountable though. My iPhone's iPod device already plays tracks, artists etc reliably whenever I ask it to. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
Me: SILENCE! SB: Now Playing 'Silence' by John Cage Me: shut up SB: Now Playing 'Shut Up' by The Monks. SB (on hearing the above): Now Playing 'Shut up! Shut up!' by The Residents etc etc.. Voice command would be problematic in situations where the music is sufficiently loud to enjoy. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
It's not going to be perfect but using the first word (or two) as a control word (e.g. play album) and the following words to define the object (track/album/artist) could work. Perhaps a slightly longer gap between control and object words might be required. I can't see that this would be too hard for most people to grasp. Don't talk fast. e.g. Play track . Silence MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
If you are using Homeseer as you Home Control system then setting up voice commands for Squeezebox should not be that hard. I use Homeseer voice control for lights and a few other things but have not gotten around to trying it with music yet, even though I do have my Squeezeboxes linked into Homeseer. You might be restricted to a limited universe of playlists and radio stations, but it is certainly doable. -- upstatemike 6x SliMP3, 1x SB1, 2x SB2, 10x SB3, 2x SBR, 4x SBC, 1x Boom, 1x iPeng, 1x Sony Dash upstatemike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Voice Command for Squeezebox? Still Not Much Interest?
The problem is not the technology. But for how much of your music do you exactly know the title? How often do you play a single track? How often do you know in advance what exactly you are going to play? For services: How often do you know exactly what is available? In all other cases you will do menu navigation: Menu My Music, Internet Radio, My Apps, Extras or Settings? My Music Albums, Artists, Genres or Playlists? Albums ... -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79734 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
