Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-09-05 Thread Paul Webster
DomieMic65 wrote: > I see... Thank you for clarifying. > And now the question is apart from features that obviously there are > many and different to each approach. > > What about sound? > In broad terms ... it is the same bits that are transmitted to the device that is playing the audio.

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-09-05 Thread DomieMic65
Paul Webster wrote: > UPnP is a family of protocols - and UPnP-AV is the family member used by > the audio/visual industry. > When your device - such as a TV - lists UPnP it almost certainly means > UPnP-AV. > > The Squeezelite protocol is proprietary and published. It needs LMS > server (or

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-09-05 Thread Paul Webster
UPnP is a family of protocols - and UPnP-AV is the family member used by the audio/visual industry. When your device - such as a TV - lists UPnP it almost certainly means UPnP-AV. The Squeezelite protocol is proprietary and published. It needs LMS server (or ~100% compatible) to be installed in

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-09-05 Thread DomieMic65
Coming back to the thread.. I saw that apart from UPnP there is also UPnP AV protocol. This is supposed to be optimized for AV applications.. no? Any comments about the differences to the "plain" UPnP? My question as I said before is that it seems strange to me that many expensive high end

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-06 Thread DomieMic65
Personally I am interested in audio so all these features are good to know that they exist but no need for them ... for now anyway!! I am using a Chromecast though mainly for Netflix and YouTube Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-06 Thread Paul Webster
If you have an IP connected TV or Cinema Amp then you might find UPnP-AV as one way of having them join in. Of course, putting a player beside/behind the TV and connecting it up is another way ... or finding that the TV/Amp has Chromecast or AirPlay built-in brings even more ways. Basically

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread DomieMic65
To be honest in the setups I had been using upnp, I never had some kind of strange problem because of upnp anyway. Now ever since it is not necessary for the system to work I don’t see a reason to use it. Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread d6jg
Paul Webster wrote: > Plus ... there are plugins for LMS to allow it to interoperate with > UPnP-AV devices That is of course true however of all Phillipe’s excellent plugins upnpbridge is the one that’s least likely to work the way you want. That’s no sleight on phillipe’s code, it’s the fact

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread Paul Webster
Plus ... there are plugins for LMS to allow it to interoperate with UPnP-AV devices Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile:

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread DomieMic65
d6jg wrote: > You don’t get that with upnp! Heh.. I guess you do not!!! Thank you for the advice! Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine.

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread d6jg
You don’t get that with upnp! VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread DomieMic65
Well I am amazed... those plugins are just great!!! DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110820

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread DomieMic65
@d6jg and all thank you very much for replying.. I am starting to get an idea! d6jg wrote: > One advantage is that SB players - including pCP - work to a standard. > uPnP/DLNA is a very loose standard where one device might work but > otherrs don't. > However the biggest benefit is with

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread Paul Webster
Although UPnP-AV defines how to achieve synchronisation between players ... I have not come across one that claims to support it. Sync works well with LMS and Squeeze players - as found in pCP. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread bernt
I could be wrong but I don't think Replay Gain and gapless playback works wih upnp. SB Touch optical to Hegel H90, Speakers Larsen 4.2 Spare SB3 AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro A10 Squeezelite-x connected to home LMS with Neorouter. SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread bpa
uPNP is much more than an audio standard, it was intended to make discovery and configuration of printers, routers, wifi, audio etc easier when Windows was effectively the only OS but it fails on many levels - compatibility, functionality & security. uPNP can be considered a marketing exercise

Re: [slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread d6jg
DomieMic65 wrote: > I admit I didn’t know about piCore/LMS until last few weeks. > > Since then I was using Volumio, MoOde and mainly Archphile as music > playing OSs on my rpis as complete systems or as renderers for server > running on my NAS. > Long story short I wanted an even lighter

[slim] uPnp vs piCore

2019-08-05 Thread DomieMic65
I admit I didn’t know about piCore/LMS until last few weeks. Since then I was using Volumio, MoOde and mainly Archphile as music playing OSs on my rpis as complete systems or as renderers for server running on my NAS. Long story short I wanted an even lighter client for for my rpis because I