Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] FOSDEM 2017 - flyer?
Hi Robert, On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 12:19:12 +0100, mray wrote: > We certainly can use some more attention among developers. > On that short notice here is a more snowdrift-ish version of that flyer: > http://snowdrift.sylphs.net/d/b10c9132fb/?dl=1 Thanks, definately an improvement. I have incorporated the typos pointed out by Aaron. Final version (as printed): http://asbjorn.it/pub/misc/noidx/snowdrift/fosdem2017.final.pdf http://asbjorn.it/pub/misc/noidx/snowdrift/fosdem2017.final.svg > BTW: Knowing about the need of material earlier is better. -- Best regards Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] FOSDEM 2017 - flyer?
Hi Aaron, On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:47:57 -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > Thanks so much for being proactive! Last year, we had someone from the > team at FOSDEM, but that didn't happen this year although there are > supporters. > > We really need to at least summarize the situation in a public fashion: > > Our lead developer left his dedicated position (and our immediate > funding ran out), although he's staying on as a volunteer. He got the > first real pledging functioning, but too much of the setup and the > operations of the pledging is left in a non-final state. We've been > scrambling (all as volunteers) to get to a state we feel will have a > positive result from lots of attention. Sadly there isn't a dedicated Haskell or functional devroom this year, otherwise I could target that room as well, as the hallways. I have kept it out of the status text, as I think it would be better in a blog post, since I think it is too detailed for the flyer. > Those who already support us will be excited to see the progress, but > we're not in a good state to give a good first impression. I agree, but a lot of developers can live with that, and the crowd-matching > Our goal is to verify that the actual payout system is operating > correctly and clean up the design so it's acceptable to get good > impression for newcomers. In order to get the payout system tested, there need to be enough patrons to defeat the to keep the fees below 10%. > Anyway, I think the poster does a good job of expressing the in-progress > early-alpha situation. In the debates about whether attention is good > before ready or whatever, I'm not sure what's right. I'm not opposed to > spreading the word with adequate qualifications. > > I do find this bit confusing: > > n patrons pledges n mUSD / month = n^2 mUSD / month > > I understand exactly what it means, but I don't think it's clear enough > to someone seeing the poster. The main goal was to include enough information that people could discuss the concept, hence the technical LaTeX formating, since the document is targeted at a technical audience, instead of the exponential generic graphic. I think mray improved the layout of this. > Typo "too be made" should be "to be made" but I'd change to "will be > adjustable in future" or something like that. Fixed. > Overall, I appreciate the support and pro-activeness enough to lean > toward giving an "okay" in sharing this etc. even though it's not > perfect. Perfect is the enemy of the good. Thanks. > I would like to see what others think. As long as it's totally clear > that this is NOT the big alpha launch announcement, it's better to get > volunteers and interest than not. We definitely need CiviCRM used better > and keep organized that way around the contacts. I agree, Due to the recent Eagle/KiCAD licensing fun, I think KiCAD would be a killer project to add early on, as CERN (who accepts donations for KiCAD) can only handle one-time donations of at least 10 CHF (atm. ~10 USD). > P.S. I saw you made a separate donation as a pre-launch sponsor! Thank > you!! It's in my list to follow up and to add you to the /sponsors page > if you'd like to be listed etc. Sure. -- Best regards Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] FOSDEM 2017 - flyer?
On 31.01.2017 22:50, Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen wrote: > Hi, > > Being one of the 30 patrons so far, I think it's stalling a bit too much at > the moment. > > So I have made a A4 flyer suitable to hang on the many pin boards along the > hall way > track at FOSDEM this weekend. > > The audience at FOSDEM is 5000+ free and open source developers and project > maintainers. > > http://asbjorn.it/pub/misc/noidx/snowdrift/fosdem2017.pdf > http://asbjorn.it/pub/misc/noidx/snowdrift/fosdem2017.svg > > If blessed I will print them on thursday around noon UTC. Thank you! We certainly can use some more attention among developers. On that short notice here is a more snowdrift-ish version of that flyer: http://snowdrift.sylphs.net/d/b10c9132fb/?dl=1 You may have to install fonts if you keep working on the SVG: https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Nunito https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Nunito+Sans BTW: Knowing about the need of material earlier is better. Cheers, Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] FOSDEM 2017 - flyer?
On 01/31/2017 01:50 PM, Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen wrote: > Hi, > > Being one of the 30 patrons so far, I think it's stalling a bit too much at > the moment. > > So I have made a A4 flyer suitable to hang on the many pin boards along the > hall way > track at FOSDEM this weekend. > > The audience at FOSDEM is 5000+ free and open source developers and project > maintainers. > > http://asbjorn.it/pub/misc/noidx/snowdrift/fosdem2017.pdf > http://asbjorn.it/pub/misc/noidx/snowdrift/fosdem2017.svg > > If blessed I will print them on thursday around noon UTC. > > Thanks so much for being proactive! Last year, we had someone from the team at FOSDEM, but that didn't happen this year although there are supporters. We really need to at least summarize the situation in a public fashion: Our lead developer left his dedicated position (and our immediate funding ran out), although he's staying on as a volunteer. He got the first real pledging functioning, but too much of the setup and the operations of the pledging is left in a non-final state. We've been scrambling (all as volunteers) to get to a state we feel will have a positive result from lots of attention. Those who already support us will be excited to see the progress, but we're not in a good state to give a good first impression. Our goal is to verify that the actual payout system is operating correctly and clean up the design so it's acceptable to get good impression for newcomers. Anyway, I think the poster does a good job of expressing the in-progress early-alpha situation. In the debates about whether attention is good before ready or whatever, I'm not sure what's right. I'm not opposed to spreading the word with adequate qualifications. I do find this bit confusing: n patrons pledges n mUSD / month = n^2 mUSD / month I understand exactly what it means, but I don't think it's clear enough to someone seeing the poster. Typo "too be made" should be "to be made" but I'd change to "will be adjustable in future" or something like that. Overall, I appreciate the support and pro-activeness enough to lean toward giving an "okay" in sharing this etc. even though it's not perfect. Perfect is the enemy of the good. I would like to see what others think. As long as it's totally clear that this is NOT the big alpha launch announcement, it's better to get volunteers and interest than not. We definitely need CiviCRM used better and keep organized that way around the contacts. P.S. I saw you made a separate donation as a pre-launch sponsor! Thank you!! It's in my list to follow up and to add you to the /sponsors page if you'd like to be listed etc. -Aaron signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss
