[Discuss] charge advanced courses

2014-11-28 Thread Hsi-Kai (Kai) Yang
Laurent Gatt wrote When we started the 'Advanced R development' course, some participant thought that it was a follow-up of the 'Beginners R course' and joined despite the description stating requirement that were clearly (for use, at least) not met after two days of introductory programming

Re: [Discuss] charge advanced courses

2014-11-28 Thread Greg Wilson
On 2014-11-28 2:25 PM, Hsi-Kai (Kai) Yang wrote: Laurent Gatt wrote When we started the 'Advanced R development' course, some participant thought that it was a follow-up of the 'Beginners R course' and joined despite the description stating requirement that were clearly (for use, at least) not

Re: [Discuss] example of a well-written lesson

2014-11-28 Thread Hsi-Kai (Kai) Yang
Sorry, there is typo in my previous email. To be accurate, I meant scoping rather than name space. -kai On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Hsi-Kai (Kai) Yang h...@uw.edu wrote: Teaching polymorphism in the basic workshop could be overkill. But it might be worthwhile to add object-oriented

Re: [Discuss] example of a well-written lesson

2014-11-28 Thread Greg Wilson
Hi Kai, Our experience is that trying to get learners who have little previous training in programming all the way to defining classes in half a day (which is all the time we usually have for Python in our workshops) fails badly. If they leave understanding that they should break their

Re: [Discuss] example of a well-written lesson

2014-11-28 Thread Hsi-Kai (Kai) Yang
Hi, Greg: Yes, the package in the basic Python is rich in contents already. My email was indeed a response to your reference to Byron Weber Becker's slide deck. I thought you liked his guides on polymorphism, and solicited possible extension to our package. There's misunderstanding here. I guess