Re: [Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup

[Greg Wilson]

Ask me some time about having to pay for a full day of a union 
electrician's time to get the lights turned on each morning at the 
conference center in Montreal...


On 2016-02-10 10:18 AM, Williams, Jason wrote:

Yikes!

I have *never* heard of anything like that. I have heard of last minute being 
asked to pay some small fee for a room use, but this seems so ridiculous!

- Jason

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Subject: [Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup

I just wanted to give people a slight heads up regarding setting up a room in a 
classroom setting. I recently taught in a really fancy room where the tables 
had both network and power in them. They were set up in a U shape, so as per 
usual, the first thing we did was to set them up in rows so that people 
wouldn´t have to break their necks. We didn´t get power to the tables now, 
because we couldn´t figure out the cabling, but we didn´t think too much of it. 
There were no notes or information regarding room configuration or desks or 
anything anywhere.

I just got word from the host that they incurred an extra $3000 charge from the 
facilities management for costs incurred due to the facilities people having to 
put the tables together correctly again. I have profusely apologized to the 
host, so no hard feelings fortunately, but still. It might be wise to not only 
double but triple check if there might be any issues regarding room 
configuration.

karin

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Re: [Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup

[Williams, Jason]

Yikes!

I have *never* heard of anything like that. I have heard of last minute being 
asked to pay some small fee for a room use, but this seems so ridiculous!

- Jason 

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Of Karin Lagesen
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:54 AM
To: Software Carpentry Discussion 
Subject: [Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup

I just wanted to give people a slight heads up regarding setting up a room in a 
classroom setting. I recently taught in a really fancy room where the tables 
had both network and power in them. They were set up in a U shape, so as per 
usual, the first thing we did was to set them up in rows so that people 
wouldn´t have to break their necks. We didn´t get power to the tables now, 
because we couldn´t figure out the cabling, but we didn´t think too much of it. 
There were no notes or information regarding room configuration or desks or 
anything anywhere.

I just got word from the host that they incurred an extra $3000 charge from the 
facilities management for costs incurred due to the facilities people having to 
put the tables together correctly again. I have profusely apologized to the 
host, so no hard feelings fortunately, but still. It might be wise to not only 
double but triple check if there might be any issues regarding room 
configuration.

karin

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Re: [Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup

[Williams, Jason]

Conference centers and hotels are the best place to rack up those kinds of 
charges. $120/per gallon coffee, and $60 extension cords, but was this at a 
university?

- Jason

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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:21 AM
To: Williams, Jason ; Karin Lagesen 
; Software Carpentry Discussion 

Subject: Re: [Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup

Ask me some time about having to pay for a full day of a union electrician's 
time to get the lights turned on each morning at the conference center in 
Montreal...

On 2016-02-10 10:18 AM, Williams, Jason wrote:
> Yikes!
>
> I have *never* heard of anything like that. I have heard of last minute being 
> asked to pay some small fee for a room use, but this seems so ridiculous!
>
> - Jason
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.software-carpentry.org] On 
> Behalf Of Karin Lagesen
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:54 AM
> To: Software Carpentry Discussion 
> 
> Subject: [Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup
>
> I just wanted to give people a slight heads up regarding setting up a room in 
> a classroom setting. I recently taught in a really fancy room where the 
> tables had both network and power in them. They were set up in a U shape, so 
> as per usual, the first thing we did was to set them up in rows so that 
> people wouldn´t have to break their necks. We didn´t get power to the tables 
> now, because we couldn´t figure out the cabling, but we didn´t think too much 
> of it. There were no notes or information regarding room configuration or 
> desks or anything anywhere.
>
> I just got word from the host that they incurred an extra $3000 charge from 
> the facilities management for costs incurred due to the facilities people 
> having to put the tables together correctly again. I have profusely 
> apologized to the host, so no hard feelings fortunately, but still. It might 
> be wise to not only double but triple check if there might be any issues 
> regarding room configuration.
>
> karin
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[Discuss] feedback sought on intro/overview for modern scientific authoring

[Greg Wilson]

Hi everyone,

Timothée Poisot started working on a lesson on modern scientific 
authoring a while back, and I've recently been working on an 
introductory section for it that explains the mess we're in with Word, 
Google Docs, LaTeX, Markdown, and all that.  The latest version is 
online at 
https://via.hypothes.is/http://swcarpentry.github.io/modern-scientific-authoring/01-mess.html, 
and I'd be grateful for feedback (which you can leave by filing issues 
at https://github.com/swcarpentry/modern-scientific-authoring, or by 
mailing me).  Please don't worry about typos and grammar at this point - 
what I'd be most grateful for is whether this all makes sense.


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[Discuss] Pizza, Prizes, Rewards for Research Software, Networking, Hackday: Collaborations Workshop 2016 (CW16) Edinburgh

[Shoaib Sufi]

For those able to attend this will be of interest; many SWC/DC people
attending (Jonah Duckles, Aleksandra Pawlik, Raniere Silva, Steve Crouch,
James Hetherington, Giacomo Peru and more!) and a prime audience for future
instructors and helpers in the UK and beyond.

Please forward to others you feel will be interested; the focus is software
and credit, a topic dear to all would like rewards for their software
related work and this of course includes teaching and training of
computational skills.

There will be opportunities for training related discussions and hack
options depending on participants ideas.

Thanks
Shoaib


Collaborations Workshop 2016 (CW16) + Hackday

Register at *www.software.ac.uk/cw16 *

The Software Sustainability Institute’s annual Collaborations Workshop 2016
(CW16) - *www.software.ac.uk/cw16* 
focusses on hot topics, sharing of best pratice and nascent tools and
approaches in research software. If you write, use or have an interest in
software that enables better research then CW16 is your must attend event
of the year!

CW16 takes place from 21-23 March 2016 at the Royal College of Surgeons of
Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK.

The main focus at CW16 will be software and reputational credit. Other
themes will also be investigated, including reproducible research, data
science, collaborative working, and the sharing of code and data.

You will gain:

   - An up-to-date understanding of key themes in research software.
   - A chance to share experiences and learn about the latest tools and
   practices.
   - An ideal hunting group to find future collaborators.
   - A rapid introduction to effective collaborative working.
   - An opportunity to improve your research related writing skills in a
   session hosted by a professional Science communicator.

CW16 brings together researchers, software developers, managers, funders,
publishers, trainers and more to share practice, explore ideas, highlight
problems and establish a community-based understanding of the current state
of research software.

This will also be your chance to meet many of the Institute's 2016 Fellows (
*www.software.ac.uk/fellows* ). They act
as ambassadors for software in their varied research domains: including the
digital humanities, bioinformatics, psychology, Earth systems, health,
physics, high performance computing and social science.

CW16 is an 'unconference' event, which means that you get to control the
direction of the workshop by voting for the topics we discuss.

The workshop’s themes will run through the schedule. They will be discussed
in keynotes, lightning talks, and demos, and debated during discussion
sessions. At the end of the workshop, some of the themes will be picked up
by the CW Hackday.

The CW Hackday focus will be on topics ideas from the workshop although you
are free to bring your own ideas and data. There will be prizes for the
best team efforts. The Hackday will start on the evening of 22 March after
the main CW16 event. Please note attending the Hackday only is possible but
requires registration; a nominal fee to cover catering applies.
The workshop is the premier annual research software related event run by
the Software Sustainability Institute, it is consistently rated 90% by
attendees for usefulness and enjoyability; many new ideas and
collaborations in interdisciplinary research have started at Collaborations
Workshops.
To find out more about the topic for this years CW take a read of -
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Register for CW16 and the CW Hackday at *www.software.ac.uk/cw16*
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Please forward to your contacts. Thank you!


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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[Trevor Bekolay]

At my lab, we use pytest (http://pytest.org/latest/) and from what I've
gathered, most new projects do as well. Look up their use of fixtures for
some awesome ways of reducing boilerplate.

- Trevor

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Steven Haddock  wrote:

> Hi all…
>
> I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?), but
> what is the current favorite test library for python, since that nose and
> nose2 are not being maintained.
>
> https://nose.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
>
> A priority would be minimal boilerplate required…
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[Shreyas Cholia]

There seems to be a fair amount of momentum behind pytest these days:
http://pytest.org/latest/

-Shreyas

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Steven Haddock  wrote:

> Hi all…
>
> I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?), but
> what is the current favorite test library for python, since that nose and
> nose2 are not being maintained.
>
> https://nose.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
>
> A priority would be minimal boilerplate required…
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
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[Discuss] Best current python testing library

[Steven Haddock]

Hi all…

I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?), but what is 
the current favorite test library for python, since that nose and nose2 are not 
being maintained. 

https://nose.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

A priority would be minimal boilerplate required…

Thanks,
Steve


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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[Doug Latornell]

+1 for pytest

At its simplest you can write tests with no boilerplate - not even special
asserts. It will probably run existing nose test suites without complaint.
But if you want to embrace "the pytest way" its fixtures and test
parametrization are wonderful, IMHO.


On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM Davide Del Vento 
wrote:

> I like and use py.test but there are others that others will certainly
> prefer to it (life is too short for me...)
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Steven Haddock  wrote:
> > Hi all…
> >
> > I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?), but
> what is the current favorite test library for python, since that nose and
> nose2 are not being maintained.
> >
> > https://nose.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
> >
> > A priority would be minimal boilerplate required…
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
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[Discuss] heads up regarding classroom setup

[Karin Lagesen]

I just wanted to give people a slight heads up regarding setting up a 
room in a classroom setting. I recently taught in a really fancy room 
where the tables had both network and power in them. They were set up in 
a U shape, so as per usual, the first thing we did was to set them up in 
rows so that people wouldn´t have to break their necks. We didn´t get 
power to the tables now, because we couldn´t figure out the cabling, but 
we didn´t think too much of it. There were no notes or information 
regarding room configuration or desks or anything anywhere.


I just got word from the host that they incurred an extra $3000 charge 
from the facilities management for costs incurred due to the facilities 
people having to put the tables together correctly again. I have 
profusely apologized to the host, so no hard feelings fortunately, but 
still. It might be wise to not only double but triple check if there 
might be any issues regarding room configuration.


karin

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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[W. Trevor King]

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 02:07:20PM -0800, Steven Haddock wrote:
> I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?),
> but what is the current favorite test library for python, since that
> nose and nose2 are not being maintained.
> …
> A priority would be minimal boilerplate required…

Python's builtin unittest supports automatic test discovery since v3.2
[1], and subtests (new in v3.4 [2]) address my most common boilerplate
concerns from Python 2.  I don't find defining TestCase subclasses to
be that big a drag ;).

Cheers,
Trevor

[1]: https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#unittest-test-discovery
[2]: 
https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#distinguishing-test-iterations-using-subtests

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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[Maxime Boissonneault]

I have heard much good about Hypothesis 
(https://hypothesis.readthedocs.org/en/latest/).


https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2zw41r/hypothesis_is_an_advanced_quickcheck_style/

Maxime

Le 2016-02-10 18:24, W. Trevor King a écrit :

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 02:07:20PM -0800, Steven Haddock wrote:

I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?),
but what is the current favorite test library for python, since that
nose and nose2 are not being maintained.
…
A priority would be minimal boilerplate required…

Python's builtin unittest supports automatic test discovery since v3.2
[1], and subtests (new in v3.4 [2]) address my most common boilerplate
concerns from Python 2.  I don't find defining TestCase subclasses to
be that big a drag ;).

Cheers,
Trevor

[1]: https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#unittest-test-discovery
[2]: 
https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#distinguishing-test-iterations-using-subtests



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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[C. Titus Brown]

Hypothesis is about property-based testing, and only partially overlaps with
standard testing functionality.

Luiz Irber in my lab gave a presentation a few weeks back on applying it
to khmer:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1GIrb9pMvfto-reHc_85yqnlSrOFexsgGwue1YPrx5H0/edit

best,
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 06:33:34PM -0500, Maxime Boissonneault wrote:
> I have heard much good about Hypothesis  
> (https://hypothesis.readthedocs.org/en/latest/).
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2zw41r/hypothesis_is_an_advanced_quickcheck_style/
>
> Maxime
>
> Le 2016-02-10 18:24, W. Trevor King a ?crit :
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 02:07:20PM -0800, Steven Haddock wrote:
>>> I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?),
>>> but what is the current favorite test library for python, since that
>>> nose and nose2 are not being maintained.
>>> ?
>>> A priority would be minimal boilerplate required?
>> Python's builtin unittest supports automatic test discovery since v3.2
>> [1], and subtests (new in v3.4 [2]) address my most common boilerplate
>> concerns from Python 2.  I don't find defining TestCase subclasses to
>> be that big a drag ;).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Trevor
>>
>> [1]: https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#unittest-test-discovery
>> [2]: 
>> https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#distinguishing-test-iterations-using-subtests
>>
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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[Luiz Irber]

Hypothesis is quite cool, but it is not a test runner (and it does
take way more thinking about tests than traditional unit tests). It
does work very well with pytest and nose, tho.

Some pointers for hypothesis:
https://github.com/dib-lab/khmer/issues/990
https://github.com/luizirber/khmer/blob/feature/hypothesis/tests/test_hypothesis.py



On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:36 PM, C. Titus Brown  wrote:
> Hypothesis is about property-based testing, and only partially overlaps with
> standard testing functionality.
>
> Luiz Irber in my lab gave a presentation a few weeks back on applying it
> to khmer:
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1GIrb9pMvfto-reHc_85yqnlSrOFexsgGwue1YPrx5H0/edit
>
> best,
> --titus
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 06:33:34PM -0500, Maxime Boissonneault wrote:
>> I have heard much good about Hypothesis
>> (https://hypothesis.readthedocs.org/en/latest/).
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2zw41r/hypothesis_is_an_advanced_quickcheck_style/
>>
>> Maxime
>>
>> Le 2016-02-10 18:24, W. Trevor King a ?crit :
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 02:07:20PM -0800, Steven Haddock wrote:
 I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?),
 but what is the current favorite test library for python, since that
 nose and nose2 are not being maintained.
 ?
 A priority would be minimal boilerplate required?
>>> Python's builtin unittest supports automatic test discovery since v3.2
>>> [1], and subtests (new in v3.4 [2]) address my most common boilerplate
>>> concerns from Python 2.  I don't find defining TestCase subclasses to
>>> be that big a drag ;).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Trevor
>>>
>>> [1]: https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#unittest-test-discovery
>>> [2]: 
>>> https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#distinguishing-test-iterations-using-subtests
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Discuss] Best current python testing library

[Matt Davis]

+1 for pytest, it's one of my favorite Python libraries.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:40 PM Luiz Irber  wrote:

> Hypothesis is quite cool, but it is not a test runner (and it does
> take way more thinking about tests than traditional unit tests). It
> does work very well with pytest and nose, tho.
>
> Some pointers for hypothesis:
> https://github.com/dib-lab/khmer/issues/990
>
> https://github.com/luizirber/khmer/blob/feature/hypothesis/tests/test_hypothesis.py
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:36 PM, C. Titus Brown 
> wrote:
> > Hypothesis is about property-based testing, and only partially overlaps
> with
> > standard testing functionality.
> >
> > Luiz Irber in my lab gave a presentation a few weeks back on applying it
> > to khmer:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1GIrb9pMvfto-reHc_85yqnlSrOFexsgGwue1YPrx5H0/edit
> >
> > best,
> > --titus
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 06:33:34PM -0500, Maxime Boissonneault wrote:
> >> I have heard much good about Hypothesis
> >> (https://hypothesis.readthedocs.org/en/latest/).
> >>
> >>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2zw41r/hypothesis_is_an_advanced_quickcheck_style/
> >>
> >> Maxime
> >>
> >> Le 2016-02-10 18:24, W. Trevor King a ?crit :
> >>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 02:07:20PM -0800, Steven Haddock wrote:
>  I think this has been discussed before (maybe even raised by me?),
>  but what is the current favorite test library for python, since that
>  nose and nose2 are not being maintained.
>  ?
>  A priority would be minimal boilerplate required?
> >>> Python's builtin unittest supports automatic test discovery since v3.2
> >>> [1], and subtests (new in v3.4 [2]) address my most common boilerplate
> >>> concerns from Python 2.  I don't find defining TestCase subclasses to
> >>> be that big a drag ;).
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Trevor
> >>>
> >>> [1]:
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#unittest-test-discovery
> >>> [2]:
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#distinguishing-test-iterations-using-subtests
> >>>
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