On 8/28/06, Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
It works for basic text, but not for other data types. I can't speak
for other platforms, but on an X based system I think this should
happen:
(1) If a bitmap graphics is cut or copied, it should make a png copy
to the X clipboard.
On 2006-08-28 03:38:43 -0400 Chris B. Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Actually, you CAN copy images using the pasteboard. I frequently use
that functionality. Don't know about fonts, but I'm pretty sure it
would be possible.
Only between GNUstep apps. I just try a couple of experiments:
(1)
Hello all,
We need a project that will pull together existing efforts, create an
easy installation/update environment, and encourage effort towards
helping out on existing apps. Because those existing apps really do a
tremendous job of covering many desktop needs:
GWorkspace + appwrappers
On 2006-08-28 03:03:28 +0200 Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A new window manager needs to be written but then again its just a
very
big job.
Is it really?
All a _window_ manager has to do is _manage_ windows. That is,
(create and) open them, move them around and (some way
On 2006-08-28 09:59:39 + Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TextEdit
TextEdit is close to useless for us since it is not able to read and write
RTF files that can be read or have been written on a Mac with Apples
TextEdit.app. Obviously the GNustep TextEdit cannot read the mac
On 2006-08-28 05:59:39 -0400 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is Terminal.app of real use for anyone? We got it built on our Solaris
machine but at least our version is rather buggy and unusable. ls list the
files but does not show the bash prompt again.
Strange, it must be a
Is Terminal.app of real use for anyone? We got it built on our
Solaris
machine but at least our version is rather buggy and unusable. ls
list the
files but does not show the bash prompt again.
Strange, it must be a Solaris specific problem. Terminal.app have
been rock solid for me with no
On 2006-08-28 13:43:08 +0200 Peter Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[...]
I suspect, like many things, it's an All-The-World-Is-Linux problem.
[...]
It is. After I copied the related line(s) from my FreeBSD's
/etc/termcap over to my Solaris box, it worked.
--
Chris
...these NeXTbuntu guys are actually a group of first
rate programmers. Check out some of their work here
http://rixstep.com/4/0/index.shtml
Yes, these are unix products aimed at OS X.
Read some of Rick's stuff
http://rixstep.com/2/20060627,00.shtml
For the past year or so Rick initiated a
Why not give Azalea a try ?
because I'd never heard of it - am happy to guive it a shot. All I
am looking foir is something which looks as close to OpenStep as
possible and works under amd64 with my GnuStep apps.
-bat. (off to guve it a try)
___
Why not give Azalea a try ?
Umm, silly question - but where can I download this from ? There's
no FreeBSD port for Azalea or Etoile that I can find (not a good start)
nor is there an obvious link from the etoile pages to download Azalea
that I can find. If it's the window manager used for
On 8/28/06, Pete French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if the system become doc centered then all we need is the filesystem
browser and about 3 other tiles.
I'm not sure what you mean by doc-centred to be honest - unless you mean
reducing the application choice to a kind of 'open with' context
On 2006-08-28 14:58:27 +0200 Pete French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not give Azalea a try ?
Umm, silly question - but where can I download this from ? There's
no FreeBSD port for Azalea or Etoile that I can find (not a good
start)
nor is there an obvious link from the etoile pages to
(sorry for sending this twice, correcting a yahoo
snafu)
...these NeXTbuntu guys are actually a group of first
rate programmers. Check out some of their work here
http://rixstep.com/4/0/index.shtml
Yes, these are unix products aimed
at OS X.
Read some of Rick's stuff
The screenshots on Etoile's Wiki look suspiciously like Window Maker.
Ah, right...
But here's one of Azalea:
http://www.roard.com/screenshots/etoile-shot1.png
Hmmm... that's a long way from a normal OpenStep desktop (why are the
menu's horizontal? where did the dock go?). Am still happy
Hi guys,I had a working system, but I lost my mind and did clean reinstall as root using the compile-all script, just as I did the first time. Now I cannot start apps or tools as a regular user. Here's the error report:2006-08-28 09:32:09.269 Ink[15236] Exception occured while loading model:
On Aug 28, 2006, at 7:43 AM, Peter Cooper wrote:
I've been running Terminal.app on NetBSD for ages, and apart from
some cosmetic issues that I can't easily fix because of the at-
times-incomprehensible-genius of the authori, it's a very pleasant
terminal environment that I use every day
On Montag, August 28, 2006, at 02:08 Uhr, Andreas Höschler wrote:
By the way, if I want to drag a string (path) from my app to
Terminal.app
what pastboard type do I need to use? Is Terminal.app able to work
as a drag
target?
Yes, Terminal.app can be a drop target. I use it all the time
On 2006-08-28 08:08:31 -0400 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, any idea how the pasteboard is to be set up? In my application (drag
source) I am doing
I compare your code to that of GWorkspace.app and I can't seem to find anything
wrong- I am at a lost. Maybe someone with more
On 2006-08-28 09:55:49 -0400 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could anyone who has Terminal.app running on Solaris send me his Terminal.app
sources?
The most recent version of the Terminal.app source can be downloaded by doing:
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sources/backbone
On 2006-08-28 09:36:12 -0400 Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If you're looking to a more NeXT'ish manager, try Afterstep or Bowman
(not
sure if the latter is still available) OR look around for NeXT'ish
themes.
There might be one for OpenBox, on which Azalea is based.
I haven't
Whats keeping other developers from gnustep?
incomplete ide?
incomplete nextstep based system?
incomplete libraries?
i don't buy the general applications unavailability argument. we are
talking about people who want to create apps under gnustep.
I started developing for KDE because I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rogelio Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whats keeping other developers from gnustep?
Depends on who those other developers are. I can only speak as
someone who 10 years ago used GNUstep (such as it was) on Linux, but was
drawn by commercial interests to focus
im working with an iff formated file. whats the best way to handle the
different media inside? use DO or plugins?
--
things i hate about my linux pc:
1. it takes more than a second to boot up
2. keeps asking about filenames and directories
3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday
4.
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Markus Hitter wrote:
Am 27.08.2006 um 21:23 schrieb Gregory John Casamento:
Up until now we've had 4 or 5 projects playing at being the official
desktop in an effort to fill the void.
Yepp. And looking at NeXTbuntu and MidnightBSD, even full
On 2006-08-28 07:43:08 -0400 Peter Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've been running Terminal.app on NetBSD for ages, and apart from
some
cosmetic issues that I can't easily fix because of the
at-times-incomprehensible-genius of the authori, it's a very pleasant
terminal environment that I
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:16:30 +0200, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've answered your own question. The wiki is not good enough yet,
underattended and stumpy.
Erm, moving as much stuff as possible to the wiki was my answer to the
underattended and stumpy issue. Etoile and other projects
Just for the record, speaking of the all the world is Linux
problem,
Terminal.app runs fine on OpenBSD, but I have to compile it with
-D__NetBSD__
:P But this is not the latest SVN so it might have improved since
last I
built it.
I may have submitted the NetBSD changes, sorry!
Hey,
On Friday, August 25, 2006, at 01:57 PM, Chris Vetter wrote:
On 2006-08-25 12:05:48 +0200 Rogelio Serrano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whats keeping other developers from gnustep?
That's the crucial question, isn't it?
I think we had this thread before.. . and even before before
On 2006-08-27 04:44:50 -0600 Gerold Rupprecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have just been going through the mediawiki.gnustep.org to look at
the state
of the documentation and I noticed that it speaks alot about cvs.
(see http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstep_release_procedure
)
hmmm..
On Friday, August 25, 2006, at 07:12 PM, Chris Vetter wrote:
without more ado then: http://nextbuntu.wordpress.com/
Looks to me like this guy is divorced from reality.
do you know who that guys? He needs medical support.
-R
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On Aug 27, 2006, at 17:51, Doc O'Leary wrote:
Summary: having Cocoa compatibility (which is getting harder every
day as MacOS advances, just think ObjC 2.0) for Linux is _not_ a
selling point. The majority of Cocoa developers simply don't want to
deploy their desktop applications to Linux/BSD.
Hey,
On Monday, August 28, 2006, at 01:43 AM, Pete French wrote:
could have an entirely GNUStep system - and as a bonus it would quit
when GSWorkspace exitted just like nextStep used to.
you can already do that, just configure your x session properly: first
launch wmaker as if it weere
Charles Philip Chan schrieb:
On 2006-08-27 15:41:37 -0400 Fred Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you please detail the problem you found with GNUstep paste
board?
At least in a Unix/Linux environment I would expect GNUstep to play
nicely with other apps that follow the basic rules. If
GJC,
I'm all for cooperation. However, that doesn't mean
beginning a dialogue with a gesture of submission.
Our intent was not to ignore GNUstep. I agree, our
first contact was more like a fender bender.
But clearly, GNUstep is not ready for prime time, not
after 10 years of hard work and having
--- Fred Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DND will be another big step. Here a whole rewrite
is needed. When we
tried to integrate GNUstep DND with X we did get it
completely wrong the
first time.
a while back i tried getting gnustep to work as a x
'dragging source' as we call it.. it still
On 8/28/06, Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2006-08-27 15:41:37 -0400 Fred Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, here there is still much to do. The strange thing is that up to
now
people only rarely asked for this.
Strange indeed since DND is used widely in NeXTStep. :-)
On Aug 28, 2006, at 22:28, Joachim Schulz wrote:
I'm all for cooperation. However, that doesn't mean
beginning a dialogue with a gesture of submission.
Our intent was not to ignore GNUstep. I agree, our
first contact was more like a fender bender.
But clearly, GNUstep is not ready for prime
Joachim,
I'm all for cooperation. However, that doesn't mean beginning a dialogue with a gesture of submission.
No one said that you guys should show a gesture of submission... far from it, only that you should try to build on what we already have built and not start from scratch since we are
On 2006-08-28 07:46:11 -0600 Birch Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I had a working system, but I lost my mind and did clean reinstall as
root
using the compile-all script, just as I did the first time. Now I
cannot
start apps or tools as a regular user. Here's the error report:
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