Re: GNUstep-back does not build Cairo backend without glx and wgl

2007-02-16 Thread Xavier Glattard
Stefan Bidigaray stefanbidi at gmail.com writes: OK, I guess it was all me! I found out I wasn't build with glitz before, that is, specifing --disable-glitz. Either way I picked up the glitz-glx1-dev package and built with glitz... got the following error when trying to open anything (used

Re: GNUstep-back does not build Cairo backend without glx and wgl

2007-02-16 Thread Fred Kiefer
Stefan Bidigaray schrieb: OK, I guess it was all me! I found out I wasn't build with glitz before, that is, specifing --disable-glitz. Either way I picked up the glitz-glx1-dev package and built with glitz... got the following error when trying to open anything (used SystemPreferences for

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Yavor Doganov
That's awesome news, but... В Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:22:04 +0100, Nicola Pero написа: [...] (which includes Linux FHS) [...] [...] Eg, let's say that you're on linux and want to test Linux FHS. FHS is a standard for Unix-like operating systems and Linux is just the kernel of GNU/Linux, the most

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Nicola Pero
[...] (which includes Linux FHS) [...] [...] Eg, let's say that you're on linux and want to test Linux FHS. FHS is a standard for Unix-like operating systems and Linux is just the kernel of GNU/Linux, the most popular variant of GNU. GNU/Hurd and GNU/kFreeBSD (at least in Debian) both

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Helge Hess
On Feb 16, 2007, at 05:22, Nicola Pero wrote: IMPORTANT: Remember to run 'ldconfig' after installing each library! I wonder whether this should be done by make install? BTW: in most modern Linuxes you would just drop a file in /etc/ ld.so.conf.d/ instead of editing ld.so.conf. Greets,

Re: The importance of civil communication on the list (was Re: Fucked up gnustep-make)

2007-02-16 Thread MJ Ray
Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 15.02.2007 um 15:32 schrieb Jeff Teunissen: Why, why WHY in the name of all that is good should anyone in a Free Software project act professional? Because we want GNUstep to be successful? Because that means GNUstep has to be used

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
On 2/16/07, Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder whether this should be done by make install? BTW: in most modern Linuxes you would just drop a file in /etc/ ld.so.conf.d/ instead of editing ld.so.conf. But not all! Pretty much any distro based on Slackware will have a single file

Building base on debian

2007-02-16 Thread Andreas Höschler
Hello all, this is my first attempt to build GNUstep on a Linux system, debian in this case. On Solaris the sources build fine. On Debian I get debian:/usr/src/core/base/Tools# make Making all for tool autogsdoc... /opt/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles/which_lib:

Re: The importance of civil communication on the list (was Re: Fucked up gnustep-make)

2007-02-16 Thread MJ Ray
Gregory John Casamento [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In my messages, no matter how pissed I am, [...] Pissed? Remember: don't drink and email. ;-) http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/p.htm -- MJR/slef, trying to lighten stuff up on a Friday afternoon. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Helge Hess
On Feb 16, 2007, at 15:42, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: BTW: in most modern Linuxes you would just drop a file in /etc/ ld.so.conf.d/ instead of editing ld.so.conf. But not all! Pretty much any distro based on Slackware will have a single file called ld.so.conf in /etc. Since parts of Slackware

Re: Building base on debian

2007-02-16 Thread David Wetzel
Andreas Höschler wrote: Hello all, this is my first attempt to build GNUstep on a Linux system, debian in this case. On Solaris the sources build fine. On Debian I get (...) ./shared_obj/autogsdoc.o(.text+0xb0): In function `main': /usr/src/core/base/Tools/autogsdoc.m:711: undefined

RE: Building base on debian

2007-02-16 Thread Nicola Pero
Which version are you using ? Can you provide your configure options and the configure results ? Thanks -Original Message- From: Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, February 16, 2007 3:46 pm To: discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Subject: Building base on debian Hello all, this is my

Re: Building base on debian

2007-02-16 Thread Nicola Pero
Are you sure that you don't have multiple conflicting gnustep-make installations ? ;-) If not, are you sure that your gnustep-make is up-to-date with your gnustep-base ? In conclusion, I suggest starting from scratch (ie, rm -Rf /opt/GNUstep, rm -Rf /usr/GNUstep, rm -Rf /etc/GNUstep), making

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
On 2/16/07, Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, so what? Thats why I wrote most and Linux ;-) I just want to make sure not to cause confusion and just assume that /etc/ld.so.conf.d exists to all modern linuxes! Of sources Slackware is not what one would call modern, but there a lot of

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Sergii Stoian
Hi, Nicola. On 2/16/07, Nicola Pero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things that could be improved, and will hopefully be improved with everyone's constructive suggestions and comments. :-) Great improvement! Thanks! I would like to suggest another layout let's call it OpenStep. The

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Nicola Pero
I would like to suggest another layout let's call it OpenStep. The base differences between GNUstep and OpenStep layouts are: - there's no System directory. All files placed under / (Applications, Tools, Library etc.) - the same is for user directory layout (no GNUstep directory). If

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Graham J Lee
On 16 Feb 2007, at 15:54, Sergii Stoian wrote: Hi, Nicola. On 2/16/07, Nicola Pero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things that could be improved, and will hopefully be improved with everyone's constructive suggestions and comments. :-) Great improvement! Thanks! I would like to

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Sergii Stoian
On 2/16/07, Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Feb 2007, at 15:54, Sergii Stoian wrote: Hi, Nicola. On 2/16/07, Nicola Pero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things that could be improved, and will hopefully be improved with everyone's constructive suggestions and comments.

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
On that OPENSTEP layout, wouldn't it be better to have the user Defaults directory in $HOME/Library/Defaults? I know it's a small thing, but that's also how the GNUstep Filesystem Layout is described... Also, I've never gone in depth in a Mac, but isn't it's filesystem layout very much like the

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Sergii Stoian
On 2/16/07, Stefan Bidigaray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On that OPENSTEP layout, wouldn't it be better to have the user Defaults directory in $HOME/Library/Defaults? I know it's a small thing, but that's also how the GNUstep Filesystem Layout is described... On OPENSTEP (it's running on a

Re: Building base on debian

2007-02-16 Thread Andreas Höschler
Hello Nicola, Are you sure that you don't have multiple conflicting gnustep-make installations ? ;-) If not, are you sure that your gnustep-make is up-to-date with your gnustep-base ? There indeed was some GNUstep stuff installed by aptitude. In conclusion, I suggest starting from scratch

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
On 2/16/07, Sergii Stoian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On OPENSTEP (it's running on a virtual machine right now) preferences saved in ~/.OpenStep dir. We can have ~/.GNUstep as Defaults dir. And we can move GNUstep.conf into ~/.GNUstep also. What do you think? Sounds good to me! On that note,

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Graham J Lee
On 16 Feb 2007, at 17:29, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: What I actually meant was, isn't the Mac layout exactly like the OPENSTEP layout? Not at all. OPENSTEP on the left, Mac on the right: /NextApps /Applications /NextAdmin (/Applications/Utilities, /System/Library/CoreServices, /

Re: Customizable filesystem support for GNUstep

2007-02-16 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
On 2/16/07, Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Feb 2007, at 17:29, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: What I actually meant was, isn't the Mac layout exactly like the OPENSTEP layout? Not at all. OPENSTEP on the left, Mac on the right: /NextApps /Applications /NextAdmin

GNUstep on debian

2007-02-16 Thread Andreas Höschler
Hi all, I finally managed to get GNUstep to build on Debian, also our code depending on GNUstep. We have a loadable bundle that depends on FBAccess (a framework) which again depends on FBCAccess (a library supplied by FrontBase, Inc.). This library is installed in /usr/lib/FrontBase/lib on

Re: The importance of civil communication on the list (was Re: Fucked up gnustep-make)

2007-02-16 Thread Graham J Lee
On 15 Feb 2007, at 20:21, Gregory John Casamento wrote: In my messages, no matter how pissed I am, except in very extreme circumstances, I try to be always measured in my response on the public mailing list. I try to treat people with respect (even if I am sometimes a bit sarcastic), and