Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-06-22 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On 06/22/2011 04:08 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: both gap-discuss and gap-dev-discuss are now back online and working! Ooh, I need to find the piece of paper where I briefly wrote 8 known problems! I hope still can find them Congratulations on the coming back of mailing list!

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu of 3fingers
On 04/27/2011 03:02 AM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: I'll speak with Greg about making our own with gnu. Progress? -- Share the Sustainability Symbol Be Part of the Solution (^.^)_\!/ ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: TextEdit / Ink, Was Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-26 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/27/2011 02:43 AM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Perhaps it would be good to mention the problems you have with TextEdit. They could hint a GNUstep bug. Good, given the permission I can discuss it now ;) (NO I am no longer angry, I am just being rhetorical.) Using gnustep-1.93.3 back-art

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-24 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/25/2011 03:16 AM, Gregory Casamento wrote: A more productive use of time would have been to go over GNUstep and GAP apps which are currently being supported. FYI Yes I did. A few days ago I was trying to communicate with Riccardo and having stacked about 7 emails to send as soon as

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-23 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/22/2011 03:06 PM, Gregory Casamento wrote: Your discussion did, however, spark a discussion regarding how to help users better find GNUstep applications to prevent users from having a bad impression. I exposed the problem, and was shot by ignorance. The problem in essence is bad user

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-23 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/24/2011 05:55 AM, Ivan Vučica wrote: For most apps, that's ./configure, make, sudo make install, so that part shouldn't be a problem. Having a standard way to distribute binaries for various operating systems would be excellent, too. From a user's prospective, it's not necessarily

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-23 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/24/2011 11:56 AM, Zhang Weiwu, Beijing wrote: I do believe users are not even bothered if they see: configure in progress. Trying to adapt the software to your system's environment, making and installing, as long as they can get what they wanted. I realized I am speaking to developers

Re: what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-22 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/19/2011 09:41 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Of course, currently GNUstep is not targeted to those environments so you need some of homework. But this does not mean that one can build a professional package with it and ship a commercial product both with cygwin and mingw. it is possible and

Re: what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-22 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/22/2011 05:50 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: It is possible to make one single self-contained application (like iTunes or Safari on windows do) but I don't think it is done with standard tools. I never did it. Thanks! Very informative. -- 我的博客: http://zhangweiwu.ixiezi.com/ 网站进化论

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-21 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/21/2011 06:00 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: I don't know this application, you might want to try other image display programs. Perhaps LaternaMagica from GAP suits your need, at least I know it works on current GNUstep because I'm its maintainer. Just tried. Works perfect:) This

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-21 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/21/2011 11:10 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: As I said, discussion is actually welcome if useful and carried on in a constructive manner. GNUstep appeals to a wide range of users, from developers to porters to end-users on a variety of platforms. We are used to different opinions.

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-21 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
Great to see people are talking about solutions after shot the messenger. ;) -- 我的博客: http://zhangweiwu.ixiezi.com/ 网站进化论 --写给需要网站或后悔有了网站的人 ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-20 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/20/2011 03:35 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: When looking form an organizational perspective, I think the GNUstep project (Base, Gui, Make, Back) are part of the FSF GNU software collection (http://www.gnu.org/software/). While applications are not under the umbrella of FSF and

Re: what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-19 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/18/2011 04:20 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Currently the only supported way is MinGW. Thanks for the information. I come to realize MinGW+GnuStep setup doesn't have a packaging system or installer like CygWin, thus there are two choices to get applications. 1. To get applications

Re: what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-19 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/19/2011 09:37 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Well, compiling from source *should* be trivial. Any decently maintained application has tarball releases, often also nightly or beta tarballs. Really? Before I try, I did a bit math to estimate the hours I am going to need. Following are my

Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-19 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
Hi. Having tried GNUStep a few years ago, I remember by working a few days I only reached the level I can get GNUStep running plus only one or two applications (GNUMail perhaps). Consider so much trouble using it I gave up deciding to come back 2 years later to check progress. So this year I

Re: what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-19 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/20/2011 09:11 AM, Zhang Weiwu, Beijing wrote: * Cynthinue depends on qt widget (!!) and nasd. Image the hell of trouble installing these on Windows. A second closer look shows FreeBSD ports forces dependency on arts which depends on qt3. It also forces dependency on esound

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-19 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/20/2011 10:23 AM, Zhang Weiwu, Beijing wrote: I randomly chose 6 applications of my interest and tested run all of them. Result: only GWorkspace did not fail fatally. Add to the list the 7th software I just tried. I know this is pretty detailed, thus should goes to the app developer

Re: Extremely poor quality of GNUStep applications

2011-04-19 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/20/2011 12:40 PM, Gregory Casamento wrote: None of the apps you mentioned with the sole exception of gworkspace are maintained by this team. So, I'm not entirely certain what your point here is. Is there a way to co-ordinate delivery of user experience? We could say this is the job of

Re: what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-18 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 04/18/2011 04:20 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Remember that you can run the applications inside the VM and then export the display locally to an X server running on the windows part. I did this on a specific setup and the performances were more than acceptable! Enlightening! I almost

Re: what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-18 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Thanks a lot for the detail of technical difference:) I think it's obvious I should choose MinGW. On 04/18/2011 06:37 PM, Ivan Vučica wrote: How do I make a choice? - is your app targeted at an end-user who is primarily using Windows? MinGW - is your app targeted at a scientist, or a

what is the best Windows distribution?

2011-04-17 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
Hello. FreeBSD user for 12 years, Linux user for being 8 years. I intend to run GNUStep on one notebook computer. Now after multiple failures to get all device driver running on my notebook computer for as long as half a year (no I am not too stupid to use google to find driver or compile a module

Re: question about low availability of Mac OS X applications that has GnuStep edition

2011-01-24 Thread Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
On 01/25/2011 06:25 AM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Linux, *BSD, Solaris... a big mess, don't you think? A maze... GNUstep has its shortcomings, but I think that generally Linux is not such a well-defined and interesting target for many applications. Sadly perhaps, but it is reality. Consider

next step forward (My understanding of the current situation, also an overview of previous discussion)

2009-10-15 Thread Zhang Weiwu
The discussion become difficult to track for people who just want to have an overview, so I try to summarize what I understand now. I hope people who follow my post be brief and ignore implementation details so we can constantly focus on a framework. I also hope my English is not a problem and

Terminal.app eats all CPU?

2009-10-08 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hi. I was reminded of another terminal.app 0.9.4+cvs20051125-5 issue. When I use mplayer, the software keep refresh the status line on the console of current framerate etc, that sucks half of my CPU power (CPU: loongson 2F). The workaround is to minimize terminal when mplayer started. The same

why RMS not mention GNUSTEP?

2009-07-06 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hello. I read articles saying mono is a must for Linux. Reason: 1. Mono applications are OOP. OOP does GUI better; 2. The other OOP choice is QT, Java and python; Mono beats QT in gnome, and beats both java and python in CPU and memory consumption; I found if these reasons are valid,

Re: is mips supported?

2009-06-25 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Sante Caserio wrote: Does GNUStep support mips architecture? Is it possible to install GNUStep on a Lemote Yeelong laptop? (http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html) I already have a working installation on Lemote 2F mini-PC. I guess we come to this project with the similar intention of

Re: are there people actually using GNUMail?

2009-06-04 Thread Zhang Weiwu
to share with the group other defects. I click an email subject Event Invitation Reply: ... in my INBOX and it crashes. I guess the email must contain an ical. character set problem produced a lot of junk text. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

Re: are there people actually using GNUMail?

2009-06-02 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Germán Arias wrote: El mar, 02-06-2009 a las 22:10 +0200, Riccardo Mottola escribió: It doesn't support thread view (as Thunderbird has) or going to the next email in this thread (as Apple mail has); that's a design feature and i hope it stays so. Not all apps need to look and

are there people actually using GNUMail?

2009-06-01 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Because I don't think it is workable, yet it is included in almost every distribution and seems to have a fame. It crashes when choosing to reply to Everyone; It displays characters in compose window at 1/2 speed I can type; It doesn't support thread view (as Thunderbird has) or going to the

Re: How to compile backend xlib based on debian lenny's gnustep-gui

2009-06-01 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer wrote: I already cleaned up the code in XWindowBuffer.m to no longer require the Xsh additions and context.c has been that way for quite some time. What did you need to change to get it working? This is how I get it to compile, but the result is the newly built backend does not

Re: are there people actually using GNUMail?

2009-06-01 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer wrote: Zhang Weiwu wrote: It sometimes have wired behavior, e.g. typing 'i' after 'f' causes both letter erasered. This could be a problem of your font. If the font claims to have a fi ligature, but doesn't display anything for that, the described behaviour could

Re: are there people actually using GNUMail?

2009-06-01 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Germán Arias wrote: It doesn't support thread view (as Thunderbird has) or going to the next email in this thread (as Apple mail has); If you select View - Thread messages, you can see the thread (see image), but you can't going to the next or previous email. It is exactly my

Re: How to compile backend xlib based on debian lenny's gnustep-gui

2009-05-31 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer wrote: There is a second call to XShmQueryVersion in context.c, but this is protected by #ifdef XSHM If this fails for you, then your system is in a state where configure detects XSHM, but it isn't usable. If this package search command output is of help to tell my case: $

How to compile backend xlib based on debian lenny's gnustep-gui

2009-05-30 Thread Zhang Weiwu
I am trying to compile back-xlibs, while install everything back-xlibs needed from Debian package repository, a.k.a. to compile the minimum to get back-xlibs running. This goes successful. However all gnustep applications doesn't run. $ SystemPreferences SystemPreferences: symbol lookup error:

Re: How to compile backend xlib based on debian lenny's gnustep-gui

2009-05-30 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Sorry, see correction below: Zhang Weiwu wrote: Then build gnustep-back-0.17.0 by using the following: Should be: then I built gnustep-back-0.14.0 by using the following: # ./configure --enable-graphics=xlib --with-name=xlib # make # make install I built gnustep-back

Re: How to compile backend xlib based on debian lenny's gnustep-gui

2009-05-30 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer wrote: What you are missing is the shared memory extension for your X server. What is strange is that we try to detect this during the configure phase. Perhaps we aren't checking that configure flag in all places the need to do so. The one I could find where this isn't done was

Re: How to compile backend xlib based on debian lenny's gnustep-gui

2009-05-30 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer wrote: What you are missing is the shared memory extension for your X server. What is strange is that we try to detect this during the configure phase. Perhaps we aren't checking that configure flag in all places the need to do so. The one I could find where this isn't done was

Re: ANNOUNCE: Terminal v0.9.5

2009-05-28 Thread Zhang Weiwu
在 2009-05-27三的 20:55 -0700,Gregory John Casamento写道: Deek, We had been planning on a release of it for a few weeks, but simply didn't have the time to make it until recently. My apologies if releasing it under the original name has caused some confusion, but we actually did think that

Re: ANNOUNCE: Terminal v0.9.5

2009-05-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Gregory John Casamento wrote: A fork implies new functionality or some philosophical difference. Neither is the case here. Hi. As a user I love the way to fork it using the original name as long as the original author doesn't complain. It reduces confusion to new users instead of creating

Re: font available for fc-list is not listed in SystemPreferencs.app

2009-05-17 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Zhang Weiwu wrote: My font does exist in my system: $ fc-list | grep -i wen WenQuanYi Bitmap Song:style=Bold WenQuanYi Bitmap Song:style=Regular $ xlsfonts | grep wen | awk -F - '{print $3;}' | uniq wenquanyi bitmap song Any idea what document should I read or how should I do? I didn't

font available for fc-list is not listed in SystemPreferencs.app

2009-05-15 Thread Zhang Weiwu
My font does exist in my system: $ fc-list | grep -i wen WenQuanYi Bitmap Song:style=Bold WenQuanYi Bitmap Song:style=Regular $ xlsfonts | grep wen | awk -F - '{print $3;}' | uniq wenquanyi bitmap song But it is not shown in SystemPreferencs.app as attached snapshot. What could be the reason?

Re: Cynthinue-0.9.5 doesn't compile

2009-05-11 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Yavor Doganov wrote: You are missing several build-dependencies. Either install them with # apt-get build-dep cynthiune.app Thanks for the information. I could not use the debian build-dependencies because I am using a chopped version of Debian (Sunwah Linux or Rays Linux) that modified to

[SOLVED] Re: Cynthinue-0.9.5 doesn't compile

2009-05-11 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Yavor Doganov wrote: Zhang Weiwu wrote: I could not use the debian build-dependencies because I am using a chopped version of Debian OK, then download the Debian source package (from ftp.debian.org) and look at debian/control? Here they are (GNUstep and Debian-related ones stripped

thumbnail generation in GWorkspace doesn't work

2009-05-10 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Riccardo Mottola wrote: Thumbnails are nice but always a problem I use several programs on Mac, Windows, Unix, all have their problems. Yes I also experience a lot of problems related to thumbnail generation on all the platforms. However most of these problems are less critical then that of

Re: Cynthinue-0.9.5 doesn't compile

2009-05-10 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Yavor Doganov wrote: Like many other (semi-)abandoned GNUstep apps, it needs modifications to compile and run with recent GNUstep releases. For this problem, specifically: http://patch-tracking.debian.net/patch/misc/view/cynthiune.app/0.9.5-7.1/Frameworks/Cynthiune/NSCellExtensions.m

Confusion of software index, software application wiki and gap database

2009-05-10 Thread Zhang Weiwu
hns wrote: That reminds me what the GNUstep Software Index is showing as content (in a different layout). http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex/ Maybe, it should be more part of the GAP Web Page? If it would help, we could add a database checkbox GAP so that it shows only the GAP projects.

Cynthinue-0.9.5 doesn't compile

2009-05-09 Thread Zhang Weiwu
http://organact.mine.nu/~wolfgang/cynthiune/Cynthiune-0.9.5.tar.gz Probably should be discussed on cynthinue project mailing list but there seems not be one. Error: Pyrrhus:/root/GNUstep/Cynthiune-0.9.5# make This is gnustep-make 2.0.8. Type 'make print-gnustep-make-help' for help. Making all

Re: Cynthinue-0.9.5 doesn't compile

2009-05-09 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Stefan Bidigaray wrote: Are you using Debian? There's a package there for Cynthiune 0.9.5. Hi thanks for providing information. I am using Debian but I got my own reason to use self-compiled version of gnustep instead of official package (bad performance of both cairo art on my particular

Re: why gnustep doesn't have a browser for it?

2009-05-09 Thread Zhang Weiwu
David Chisnall wrote: There is a browser in Étoilé svn which works as you describe, by simply taking a Gecko X11 view and reparenting it. This is not a good solution, however, because it means that things like text fields do not have the same behaviour as other GNUstep text fields, buttons do

Re: to make newbie more comfortable and easier to glance: suggestion on change frontpage of gap

2009-05-09 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hi Riccardo Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: A short description would give visitors - who aren't gnustep old stagers - an idea what GAP and all the other stuff on that page is about. Even if the frontpage is considered just a quick acces page. Do you agree with this idea? On the front page

GNUmail: where is the unsent message?

2009-05-08 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hello. I failed to send my first email using GNUmail with an error message about authentication. Then the email compose window disappeared (I as user expected the window still opened in case email fail to send). Then I am thinking about resending, but facing two problems: 1. There is no

Re: GNUmail: where is the unsent message?

2009-05-08 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On 2009-05-08 15:36:47 +0800 Zhang Weiwu zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: Hello. I failed to send my first email using GNUmail with an error message about authentication. Then the email compose window disappeared (I as user expected the window still opened in case email fail to send). Then I am

Re: Terminal seems to suffer from cropped line using cairo

2009-05-07 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Gürkan Sengün wrote: Hello I know this problem. Debian sid has the new gnustep, but the apps need be rebuilt. Try http://sid.ethz.ch/debian/ for terminal.app and the like. If you want to help, get a Debian Developer and maintain and sponsor packages... HI. Thank you for the information. I

gnome minimize-to-try application doesn't work

2009-05-07 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hello. There are gnome applications that usually minimize to tray and open a window when user clicks a button on the tray. e.g. stardict, a dictionary software, would sit in gnome tray most of the time, and in most time does not display any window. It display a window when user clicks its

Debian: none of the GNUStep application starts. Error:

2009-05-06 Thread Zhang Weiwu
zhangwe...@sumsung:~$ Terminal 2009-05-06 18:38:16.097 Terminal[2739] The font specified for NSFont, Helvetica, can't be found. 2009-05-06 18:38:16.098 Terminal[2739] The font specified for NSFont, Helvetica, can't be found. 2009-05-06 18:38:16.114 Terminal[2739] The font specified for NSFont,

Re: image browser application

2009-05-06 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hello Zhang, please have a look at LaternaMagica in the GAP project. It is thought exactly for that, it allows single-window browsing of a list of images and recursively adds files given a folder. It also has full-screen and image resizing capabilities. Hi. Thanks

Re: Debian: none of the GNUStep application starts. Error:

2009-05-06 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Gürkan Sengün wrote: do you have gsfonts-x11 installed? Yes I do. It is a dependency of gnustep. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

[SOLVED] Re: Debian: none of the GNUStep application starts. Error:

2009-05-06 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Niels Grewe wrote: On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:45:05PM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: 2009-05-06 18:38:16.098 Terminal[2739] The font specified for NSFont, Helvetica, can't be found. I believe I already ran into this one: If I'm not mistaken, the cairo backend will use fontconfig, so you

Terminal seems to suffer from cropped line using cairo

2009-05-06 Thread Zhang Weiwu
The attached screenshot shows the problem. It seems only related to cairo. I on another computer tried xlib and art both work fine. I tried various font for Terminal including Dejavu Sans, WenQuanyi Bitmap Song, Courier 10 Pitch (at 10 Pitch), all have this problem. Only lower half of the

image browser application

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Do you think it is needed to have image browser application? Like gthum in gtk/gnome, mapivi in tk etc. For doing slideshow or reading manga or selecting photos etc. I didn't find one in existing applications. There are software that shows single image though.

Re: a collective introduction of all sites related to gnustep

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Riccardo Mottola wrote: GWorkspace, SystemPreferences are noew released and maintained inside gnustep All these gives everyone an impression that everything is moving forward and more organized. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

to make newbie more comfortable and easier to glance: suggestion on change frontpage of gap

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
I did not find how to contact the webmast in the gap website so I just post it here. I'd propose small change on the index page to make it less confusing for newbies like me. What I did is to add short description to alive projects and hide the hibernating projects. Maybe there should be a

where to get TextEdit.app?

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
I knew Backbone projects are now collected in the GAP but where is it? TextEdit is not mentioned on the site. Can you get me a download link? ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: to make newbie more comfortable and easier to glance: suggestion on change frontpage of gap

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
David Chisnall wrote: Possibly you have a very wide screen / browser window, but for me that ends up displaying the text in very difficult-to-read, small, columns. Your eye is drawn across the page, while the text goes down. Very bad usability. If you're going to put the description under

Re: to make newbie more comfortable and easier to glance: suggestion on change frontpage of gap

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Zhang Weiwu wrote: How about this: file:///home/zhangweiwu/GNUstep_Projects/www.nongnu.org/gap/index:2.html Silly me! Should be: http://emerson.realss.com/index:2.html ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org

Re: to make newbie more comfortable and easier to glance: suggestion on change frontpage of gap

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Riccardo Mottola wrote: I understand what you want to change and appreciate your effort, but it is confusing to me. I prefer without the descriptions. Furthermore, imagine when new applications will be added! A real mess! In the future maybe some kind of categorization will be needed. You are

bugs in Terminal.app

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Probably I should file bugs on https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=gap but there are only two existing bug report there which give me the impression that bugs are not tracked there (is it tracked on per-subproject basis?) * Terminal does not allow copy while scrolling, makes it not

browser for gnustep

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Riccardo Mottola wrote: Browser Vespucci had quite some talk, so it should be correctly represented on the front page. That reminds me something. How is Simple Webkit going on? Google shows last latest status was 1 year ago: http://gnustep.blogspot.com/2008/02/simplewebkit-status.html I

Re: bugs in Terminal.app

2009-05-05 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer wrote: Riccardo Mottola wrote: * man page not readable (see attached screenshot where I put xterm as comparison) I just tried and I can use man just fine here, no funny characters. I have never seen your problem, sorry. Perhaps it is a font issue? Which

Re: fail to compile Terminal from backbone: ‘NSFontManager’ undeclared

2009-05-04 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Stefan Bidigaray wrote: My bad! It was supposed to have been now. Where? It isn't listed on the home page http://www.nongnu.org/gap/ When you tell me the URI it is hosted on, I'll see if I can update this wiki too for other newbies. ___

Re: fail to compile Terminal from backbone: ‘NSFontManager’ undeclared

2009-05-04 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Gregory Casamento wrote: Terminal is now maintained at the GAP project: http://gap.nongnu.org I know. Maybe I am the only stupid guy, but I did not see the word Terminal on the web link you gave me, nor on any of the sub-level links of the site, hence I ask for the exact URI where I can find

[SOLVED] Re: fail to compile Terminal from backb one: ‘NSFontManager’ undeclared

2009-05-04 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Stefan Bidigaray wrote: I provided the link my previous e-mail: http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/gap/system-apps/Terminal/?root=gap Like I mentioned before, it hasn't been officially released, so you'll need to get it by CVS. Thanks. I got it compiled and running now. :)

Re: xim doesn't work (scim)

2009-05-04 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Omniscient wrote: On May 4, 10:09 pm, Zhang Weiwu zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: You are write. I just write to confirm that gnustep application in xlib also does not support XIM. This would be a big problem because it seems gnustep also doesn't support iiimf, which means there are no way

Re: a collective introduction of all sites related to gnustep

2009-05-04 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Dennis Leeuw wrote: Zhang Weiwu wrote: GNUStep Library http://gnustep.made-it.com/ This is/was my project to help the GNUstep project... the last time I actually worked on it I was trying to write man-pages for all the GNUstep tools and I had the arrangement with Enrico to incorporate

xim doesn't work (scim)

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hello. In TextEditor or Terminal (in fact, all GNUstep applications) xim (scim 1.0) doesn't seem to work. I don't know if other xim works, in my case I made sure environment variables are correctly set, and Chinese input is working fine for gtk applications like firefox thunderbird. With

fail to set system preference for hidding .dot files

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, * How can I hide the .dot files in open document dialgue? Install SystemPreferences and check all the options there, there'll be one for hide dot files. Exact. SystemPreferences - FileSystem - Hide dot files. Hi. I checked Preferences.app which

Re: xim doesn't work (scim)

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Omniscient wrote: On May 3, 3:17 pm, Zhang Weiwu zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: Hello. In TextEditor or Terminal (in fact, all GNUstep applications) xim (scim 1.0) doesn't seem to work. I have been looking forward to iiimf but I never really use these things so I don't really know

Re: newbie user difficulty in managing dockapp

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Omniscient wrote: On May 3, 5:02 pm, Pete French p...@twisted.org.uk wrote: but TimeMon has a buig in it - the first time you start it then it will not animate the icon. You need to quit it and start it a second time - the second time it works properly. I have never used AClock so I dn;t

Re: newbie user difficulty in managing dockapp

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Wolfgang Lux wrote: This is a backend bug. Hi. By backend bug do you mean bug in AppKit or in art? If in art, I guess I can workaround it by try get backend-xlibs running. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

failed to follow gnustep build guide

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
张韡武 wrote: Germán Arias ger...@xelalug.org wrote: Have you installed gnustep-make? Thanks very much for providing this information. But it doesn't work for me. [snip] I again failed trying to compile my own copy of gnustep. I have been closely following the build guide:

Re: failed to follow gnustep build guide

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Zhang Weiwu wrote: All configure and make are done without error with exactly the same configuration option as given in the guide (not even changing the paths). Now I am at step III GNUstep Configuration, I found I could not run defaults (command not found). A closer look at the build guide

Re: failed to follow gnustep build guide

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
David Chisnall wrote: Did you follow the step in 'Building the Makefile system' about sourcing the GNUstep.{csh,sh} file? Without this file sourced (in every shell you want to run GNUstep commands in), the GNUstep command-line tools and GNUstep make will not work. Hi. What you suggested

Re: newbie user difficulty in managing dockapp

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Omniscient wrote: Since most of them who can deal with the problem were focusing on building their own DE and they won't use Window Maker in any way either were too busy with anything else. And no matter how many NeXT zealots would say how much they love the current look, they can't help either.

[SOLVED] Re: failed to follow gnustep build guide

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Just write to let everybody know I built gnustep with help from you. Thanks. Problem solved. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

fail to compile Terminal from backbone: ‘NS FontManager’ undeclared

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
This has been asked on discuss-gnustep before but was unanswered: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss-gnustep@gnu.org/msg07102.html In my case: Pyrrhus:~/GNUstep/Backbone# make This is gnustep-make 2.0.8. Type 'make print-gnustep-make-help' for help. Making all in Frameworks/PrefsModule...

Re: newbie questions

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, To remove this icon, in System Preferences on Defaults select GSSuppressAppIcon and set this on YES. I am not sure how to do this. I have run Preferences.app but I do not see any reference to this option and clicking on Add for either the Domain or Defaults

Re: fail to compile Terminal from backbone: ‘NSFontManager’ undeclared

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Stefan Bidigaray wrote: I would suggest against using anything from the Backbone project, except for the fonts if you're using the -art backend. It's no longer under development and is starting to suffer from bit rot. Preferences.app can be replaced with SystemPreferences.app, Terminal.app

a collective introduction of all sites related to gnustep

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
During I am trying to look for information about setting up my own gnustep based desktop, I found I have to look information and download software pieces from here and there. With new input from Stefan Bidigaray here is the updated my notes about the information / projects I come across.

Re: is the bad performance because of backend and how could I change backend?

2009-05-03 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Zhang Weiwu wrote: Hello I managed to get back to use debian-repository version of gnustep instead of compiling my own version, and suffer greatly from several problems: 1. drag and drop almost never works. It freezes the application where drag-drop occur for some time

Re: is the bad performance because of backend and how could I change backend?

2009-05-02 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer 写道: The problem with the xlib backend you are experiencing is most likely due to it being of a different version than the gui library you installed from the Debian repository. According to your mail the xlib backend is version 0.16, which version are the other two backends you

Re: is the bad performance because of backend and how could I change backend?

2009-05-02 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Fred Kiefer wrote: The problem with the xlib backend you are experiencing is most likely due to it being of a different version than the gui library you installed from the Debian repository. According to your mail the xlib backend is version 0.16, which version are the other two backends you

newbie user difficulty in managing dockapp

2009-05-02 Thread Zhang Weiwu
What is the right way to manage docapp to start after login? Using gnustep wmaker. I am trying to dock AClock TimeMon Traditional way is to customize .Xsession. It doesn't work. If I start AClock after logged in, it has a single animated application icon which is what I need. If I start it

Re: compile error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lAddressView

2007-06-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 22:34 -0700, Yen-Ju Chen wrote: I use Ubuntu/PPC and build GNUstep from source. I have never had this problem though. I do have an iBook running Ubuntu 7.04 and I wish/can/will get GNUStep running there by compile from source, because that way at least I am in the same

Re: compile error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lAddressView

2007-06-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
applications are launched by GWorkspace... -- Zhang Weiwu Real Softservice http://www.realss.com +86 592 2091112 ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

projects related to GNUStep?

2007-06-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Dear all I during my googling around trying to build my GNUStep environment I have seen many efforts to make a desktop system using GNUStep. Knowing Etolie is active is a good thing but I just wish to know if other related projects are still alive (and, maybe it's better they are not alive so

Re: compile error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lAddressView

2007-06-26 Thread Zhang Weiwu
于 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:24:28 -0700 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道: On 6/26/07, Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all In order to experience the latest development of gnustep I decided (follow suggestion on this list) to compile it myself, on my Ubuntu 7.04 Basic packages

Re: compile error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lAddressView

2007-06-26 Thread Zhang Weiwu
于 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:24:28 -0700 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道: Addresses is now hosted in GAP (http://www.nongnu.org/gap/). It may work out of box. There is another copy in Etoile, which should also work, but it is split into framework and application part. Thank you for your

Re: compile error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lAddressView

2007-06-26 Thread Zhang Weiwu
于 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:30:37 -0700 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道: On 6/26/07, Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 于 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:24:28 -0700 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道: Addresses is now hosted in GAP (http://www.nongnu.org/gap/). It may work out of box

new user of gnustep on ubuntu question about basic usage

2007-06-25 Thread Zhang Weiwu
usability. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Login: zhangweiwu Name: Zhang Weiwu Directory: /home/zhangweiwu Shell: /bin/bash On since Mon Jun 25 22:27 (CST) on :0 (messages off) New mail received Sun Jun 24 07:36 2007 (CST) Unread since Sun May 20 07:36 2007 (CST

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