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> And just to make this also public: I did reply in private to you on the
Hello everyone,
as I feel a little bit misunderstood I’d like to clarify some thoughts
and - with your consent - finish this thread as well.
First I’d like to apologize if I hurt anyone. I chose clear words to
trigger action, but I did not intend to hurt and I did not mean to
formulate any
Umberto,
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 7:43 PM Umberto Cerrato
wrote:
>
>
> > Il giorno 28 mar 2021, alle ore 00:10, Gregory Casamento <
> greg.casame...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > Umberto,
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 6:56 PM Umberto Cerrato <
> umbertocerr...@outlook.it> wrote:
> > Hello
> Il giorno 28 mar 2021, alle ore 00:10, Gregory Casamento
> ha scritto:
>
>
> Umberto,
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 6:56 PM Umberto Cerrato
> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> “Hurting the project” ahah. Are you serious?
>
> What is this supposed to mean? Say what you really think, don't be
Hello everyone,
“Hurting the project” ahah. Are you serious?
Anyway,
I do want to spend some time to comment this.
I think the person who came up with this issue did a good thing. It is very
important to not focus just “on code”. We are not automata and it is instead
very important to
Umberto,
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 6:56 PM Umberto Cerrato
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> “Hurting the project” ahah. Are you serious?
>
What is this supposed to mean? Say what you really think, don't be shy. If
you have something derogatory or sarcastic to say, then say it out, don't
hide behind
Johannes,
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 2:58 AM Johannes Brakensiek <
johan...@brakensiek.info> wrote:
> Gregory,
>
> On 26 Mar 2021, at 22:36, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>
> > I utterly fail to see the parallel between me asking for a CoC to be
> > considered and you posting an open letter calling for
According to Godwni's law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) you
have won. Could we stop this flamewar now?
And just to make this also public: I did reply in private to you on the
original subject (GCC support for OBJC) long before any of the discussion
started. I was stating the
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Most of the accusations in that letter are false.
A few are true, but they are not
Hi Johannes
> [...] to stop contributing to this project until RMS and the FSF have
> set up a corresponding CoC or otherwise remove him- or herself from the
> project and to then set free the valuable source code and software of
> this project.
GNU projects are created by volunteers. FSF
up a CoC that makes it clear in a way
> which can not be misunderstood that they do in no way tolerate or even accept
> abusive behaviour against children and women.
I can't judge on this but it is not clear what it has to do with GNUstep and
this list. And how "Call to stop contr
Gregory,
On 26 Mar 2021, at 22:36, Gregory Casamento wrote:
I utterly fail to see the parallel between me asking for a CoC to be
considered and you posting an open letter calling for the removal of
RMS from all leadership positions and for us to stop contributing to
this project. Equating
Johannes,
I am not employing a double standard here as much as you would like to
imply otherwise.
I utterly fail to see the parallel between me asking for a CoC to be
considered and you posting an open letter calling for the removal of RMS
from all leadership positions and for us to stop
Gregory,
On 26 Mar 2021, at 20:57, Gregory Casamento wrote:
Johannes,
As list moderator, I am obliged to inform you that political
infighting is not what this list is meant for. Kindly take any
discussions regarding this matter off-list. I am NOT censoring
you, but this is simply not
Le 26.03.2021 20:20, Riccardo Mottola a écrit :
Hello,
Graham Lee wrote:
I observe the evidence that RMS has indeed stepped back from such
statements, e.g.
https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong).
The GNU kind
Johannes,
As list moderator, I am obliged to inform you that political infighting is
not what this list is meant for. Kindly take any discussions regarding
this matter off-list. I am NOT censoring you, but this is simply not the
proper forum to discuss this.
Yours, GC
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at
Hello,
Graham Lee wrote:
> I observe the evidence that RMS has indeed stepped back from such
> statements, e.g.
> https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong).
> The GNU kind communication guidelines
>
Just a minor addition. It would make me feel comfortable and at
home if everyone would just sign the Libertarian Pledge:
"I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of
force as a means of achieving political or social goals."
That is unlikely however, so I will just
I whole heartedly support any organization that distances itself
from political and social positions pushed by minority activists.
I applaud that the FSF has the guts to stand up to blackmail. If
some people wish to walk away because of that stand, that is their
right.
With that, I will say
Thank you for speaking up Johannes!
I wholeheartedly support your position and would encourage everybody to
consider it carefully.
I am similarly appalled by the FSF's decision, which to me demonstrates
that the FSF would rather foster a culture where abusive behaviours are
tolerated and thus
: Johannes Brakensiek
To: GNUstep Discuss ,
Sent: 26/03/2021 1:54 PM
Subject: Call to stop contributing
Dear GNUsteppers, Mr. Stallman,
it is not as if I do like to write this mail, but I think I have to,
since you, Mr. Stallman, again took chair in the FSF board and posted
Dear GNUsteppers, Mr. Stallman,
it is not as if I do like to write this mail, but I think I have to,
since you, Mr. Stallman, again took chair in the FSF board and posted
mails to this list suggesting development decisions.
I’d like to clarify in advance that this statement does not contain
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