Re: problem with inline functions in gsweb and clang

Heh, that amused me too. It's in the OpenBSD source repo: http://ftp.fr.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/src/lib/libc/string/stpcpy.c Graham. On 27 May 2013, at 18:18, Ivan Vučica wrote: > Somewhat off topic: I really like the following error; it's extremely > professional and mature. Where is it comi

Anyone able to help with gdl2?

Hi, Having submitted a couple of patches to get GDL2 and EOModelEditor working on my Mac (see bugs 39289, 39290, 39299), I'm finding that a simple (one-key) custom record isn't working correctly. Perhaps the problem is between my keyboard and my chair. I _think_ I'm setting the GDL2 editing sta

Re: Anyone able to help with gdl2?

Thanks! That really wasn't a prod, just an attempt to explain where I am and what code I'm using to situate the problems I'm seeing. I'm pretty new at GDL2, though I've used Java EOF before I could be making some trivial error like setting up the stack incorrectly. Cheers, Graham. On 21 Jun 20

Re: Anyone able to help with gdl2?

It was, I hadn't set the field as a class property. Sorry for the noise, and thanks Matt for your help. Graham. On 21 Jun 2013, at 16:31, "Graham Lee" wrote: > Perhaps the problem is between my keyboard and my chair. ___ Discu

Copying native library into app bundle and linking from there

Hi, I have the following project structure: MyApp/GNUmakefile: defines a GSW app target that depends on NativeLib, and an aggregate that builds NativeLib as a subprojectMyApp/NativeLib/GNUmakefile: defines the native library target used by the app Currently, typing "make" at the MyApp level build

Re: Copying native library into app bundle and linking from there

Ivan Vučica , 7/4/2013 1:14 PM: I think no -- there is probably no built in support as ATM almost all GNUstep apps are shipped as source code.  Hi Ivan, thanks for the advice (and indeed thanks everyone else for the subsequent information, too). My motivation is simply to package everything up in

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-07-07

On 9 Jul 2013, at 05:34, "Richard Frith-Macdonald" wrote: > I'd appreciate any information from OSX coders about what we should actually > be doing. Hi Richard, Here's one explanation of the macros from someone within Apple: http://lists.apple.com/archives/xcode-users/2005/Aug/msg00399.html

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-07-07

On 9 Jul 2013, at 07:54, "Richard Frith-Macdonald" wrote: > If we define this then presumably there's a bigger chance that they can just > take their OSX source and compile it unchanged. That motivates which of "always pass" and "always fail" we choose, I think. I believe it'd be safer to alw

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-07-07

On 9 Jul 2013, at 08:38, "Wolfgang Lux" wrote: > Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: > >> >> On 9 Jul 2013, at 07:37, Graham Lee wrote: >> >>> On 9 Jul 2013, at 05:34, "Richard Frith-Macdonald" >>> wrote: >>> &

Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

Is that something we could automate by doing an API comparison with the Mac OS X headers? I've written an ObjC adapter to the clang C API (https://bitbucket.org/iamleeg/objectivebrowser) which I could relicense as GPL for the purpose. Graham. Sent from my iPhone On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:59, "Gre

Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

On 12 Sep 2013, at 09:20, David Chisnall wrote: > I believe that 'compatibility with OS X 10.x' as a goal is fundamentally > flawed, for three reasons: Hi David, I'd like to add this reason: 4. Not many high-profile Cocoa/Cocoa Touch devs actually _care_ about write-once-build-everywhere. Th

Re: unit testing?

On 17 Sep 2013, at 09:32, "Lundberg, Johannes" wrote: > Hi > > What is the recommended unit testing framework when working with GNUstep on > FreeBSD? > Just to add to the confusing multiplicity of answers, I use CATCH (https://github.com/philsquared/Catch) with Mac OS X, iOS and with GNUste

Post on the gnustep-make test suite

Hi all, I wrote up a “how-to” on getting started with writing tests in the gnustep suite: http://blog.securemacprogramming.com/2013/11/automated-tests-with-the-gnustep-test-framework/ I’d welcome any constructive feedback about it. If the post can usefully be part of the official tutorial seri

Re: Post on the gnustep-make test suite

On 5 Nov 2013, at 07:08, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: > However, the moving to production section does seem a bit less concrete/clear > than the rest, with how to do it being glossed over a bit rather than given > concrete examples as you have done everywhere else. > Perhaps it would be wort

Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

> On 23 Nov 2013, at 08:47, "Gregory Casamento" > wrote: > > Are there any dissenting opinions to changing the default look? Not from me :). I can't decide whether I'd prefer to see something unique to GNUstep to stand out (which would have to be VERY good for outsiders to appreciate it), o

Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website...

On 20 Dec 2013, at 10:50, David Chisnall wrote: > > On the UIKit side... patches welcome. That assertion is not demonstrated in practice. There are bugs with patches attached in Savannah going back years, and the patches section has something still there from 2004. Saying “we want patches” is

Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website...

On 20 Dec 2013, at 12:00, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: > > On 20 Dec 2013, at 11:34, Graham Lee wrote: > >> On 20 Dec 2013, at 10:50, David Chisnall wrote: >> >>> >>> On the UIKit side... patches welcome. >> >> That assertion is not de

Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website...

On 20 Dec 2013, at 12:34, David Chisnall wrote: > it definitely refutes the assertion that patches are not accepted Sure. It’s the presentation that’s at fault. There’s an internal feeling that GNUstep is doing stuff and welcomes external contribution, and an external presentation of a stale b

Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website...

On 20 Dec 2013, at 15:14, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Am 20.12.2013 um 16:05 schrieb David Chisnall: > >> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Gregory Casamento wrote: >> >>> I agree. We should either move our bugs to gna or move the code back to >>> savannah. Does anyone have any opinions on

Re: This thing we call GNUstep (Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but.it did help things...)

> On 20 Dec 2013, at 20:44, "Doc O'Leary" > wrote: > > Here's an attempt at a catch phrase: > > Step outside the walled garden. Heh. Nice :) Graham. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: nextstep packaging system

Substantially the same way that the Mac OS X .pkg system works, although that’s been refined over time. So there’s a bundle called a pkg, which contains two useful elements: a zipped PAX archive containing the payload and a “bill of materials” which describes the locations, permissions and size

Is Backbone still active?

Hi list, I recently discovered that backbone's build had bit-rotted as gnustep-make has changed, and put up a patch: http://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?9162 Nothing's happened to it in a couple of weeks. Are the backbone maintainers still around? Is there a different route preferred for subm

Re: Is Backbone still active?

ers,Graham. Original message From: Riccardo Mottola Date: 2016/12/03 16:47 (GMT+00:00) To: discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Subject: Re: Is Backbone still active? Hi Graham, On 30/11/2016 19:48, Graham Lee wrote: > > Nothing's happened to it in a couple of weeks. Are the ba

ProjectCenter template and conflicting resource files

Hi all, the Application project template in ProjectCenter contains both a .gorm file and .gsmarkup files. The GNUmakefile includes all of these as resources for the target. This is confusing, as I wasn't sure what I needed to edit in order to design my application. After some testing (on Linux,

Re: ProjectCenter template and conflicting resource files

Hi, From: Riccardo Mottola To: Graham Lee , Sent: 1/8/2017 9:19 AM Subject: Re: ProjectCenter template and conflicting resource files If it were for me, I would just throw away the GSMarkup file - but it is me, being biased for Gorm files. Since I am only the "de

Gorm and NSMatrix dragging

Hi all, how do I drag a control's resize handle in Gorm to build an NSMatrix like I could in Interface Builder? I have discovered that normal dragging resizes (expected), and so does alt-drag, ctrl-drag, shift-drag, alt-shift-drag, ctrl-shift-drag and ctrl-alt-shift-drag. Based on this bug repo

Re: Gorm and NSMatrix dragging

From: Gregory Casamento To: Graham Lee , Sent: 1/9/2017 4:39 AM Subject: Re: Gorm and NSMatrix dragging Hey Graham, This is a known issue.  I will get back to you on how to change the prototype.  I believe there is a drop down which includes all available cells including

GNUstep dev guide

Hi folks, I found a lot of people on places like reddit, askubuntu and stackoverflow are discovering that GNUstep is the thing to use for Objective-C on Linux and other platforms, but hitting a wall after installing it. What do I do now? I've tried following Apple's docs but there's nothing like

Re: GNUstep dev guide

, anyone already can indeed contribute, there's a link to the bitbucket repo on the website :). Graham Original message From: Svetlana Tkachenko Date: 2017/01/17 21:56 (GMT+00:00) To: Graham Lee , discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Subject: Re: GNUstep dev guide I would sugge

Re: GNUstep dev guide

I would hope that UIKit is only used in the view layer (but, I've seen enough app source not to hold my breath...) Graham. Original message From: Ivan Vučica Date: 2017/01/18 00:34 (GMT+00:00) To: Graham Lee Cc: Svetlana Tkachenko , discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Subjec

Re: FOSDEM

So will I, and so am I. Graham. From: Liam Proven To: "discuss-gnustep@gnu.org" Sent: 1/31/2017 1:16 PM Subject: Re: FOSDEM On 29 January 2017 at 00:12, Steven R. Baker wrote: > Heya folks, > > I'm heading to FOSDEM next weekend, and plan to be doing some GNUstep > hacking w

bindings to non-ObjC [was Re: GNUstep Live on OSnews]

On 01/08/2017 15:52, Matt Rice wrote: On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:18 AM, David Chisnall wrote: On 31 Jul 2017, at 20:43, Liam Proven wrote: GNUstep apps can _only_ be written in Objective-C? Kind of. They can only be written in a language that has good bridging to Objective-C[++]. All of the

Number formatters in tables on GORM

Hi folks, I have an NSTableView, and want to attach an NSNumberFormatter to one of the columns. What I _think_ I should do is drag the number formatter avatar from the Gorm palette to the column, but that has no effect. Specifically, dragging the formatter onto most of the table's area shows

Re: Number formatters in tables on GORM

is that this would be NSTableView, NSScrollView or NSTableColumn when you drag over a table. It's the column's -dataCell that the formatter needs attaching to...does that need handling specially in DataPalette.m? Thanks, Graham. From: Graham Lee To: Sent: 01/08/20

Re: Emacs Anyone?

Hi Steven, emacs 25.3 doesn't build with --with-ns configured for GNUstep, but the fix is trivial (it's not in my terminal buffer any more, but it complained about a duplicate symbol declaration in src/nsterm.m, which I deleted, then it built properly). I was able to build emacs from master in

Re: FOSDEM 2018 - Distributions Devroom Call for Participation

I’ll be there. I’m not likely to present though :) > On 4 Nov 2017, at 13:10, Liam Proven wrote: > > Will any GNUstep people be at FOSdem? Prime material for a > presentation, I think... > > -- > Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/P

Re: [INFO] NEXTSPACE

Hi Sergii, this is very exciting. For me, the unification of GWorkspace with the window manager alone makes it all worthwhile; having GWorkspace and WindowMaker each produce their own desktop background window and their own Dock made them less useful. Thank you! Graham. From: Sergii Stoi

Pull request support

Hi folks, I posted a couple of PRs on gnustep-base last month, is there anyone with commit rights who can help me to land them (or at least decline them so I can move on)? https://github.com/gnustep/libs-base/pull/15 and https://github.com/gnustep/libs-base/pull/16 Thanks, Graham._

FOSDEM

I will also be at FOSDEM (I'm already here!) ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

[ANN] Labrary 0.1 - the library for your laboratory

Hi folks, I've been writing a little app to help me record the articles I read and the notes I make on them. It's now available for download at https: //gitlab.labrary.online/leeg/labrary/ under the GPL3+ terms. Version 0.1 is just barely enough for it to be useful to me, which seems a good time

Where's it going?

Hi folks, I originally sent this message to Greg back in March but we haven't found an opportunity to talk about it one-on-one since, I'm really interested in answering these questions though so I'm opening it up for discussion on the list. I appreciate any insights GNUstep collaborators can

Re: Where's it going?

ng for? Thanks, Graham. From: Riccardo Mottola To: Graham Lee , Sent: 14/06/2018 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Where's it going? Hi Graham these emails usually trigger an infinite discussion of different goals, rants about not having a common on and critique of every kind. Please

Linking -back on freebsd 13

Hi all, FreeBSD 13 (I’m on RC1, which is what we’re currently using over at twitch.tv/objcretain , though will probably upgrade to RC2 soon) has switched to LLD 11.0.1, and I can’t build gnustep-back on this platform. I get this linker error at gsc: “/usr/bin/ld” -

Re: Linking -back on freebsd 13

nk. > > Frederik > > >> Am 17.03.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Graham Lee : >> >> Hi all, >> >> FreeBSD 13 (I’m on RC1, which is what we’re currently using over at >> twitch.tv/objcretain <http://twitch.tv/objcretain>, though will probabl

Re: Call to stop contributing

Hi all, I observe the evidence that RMS has indeed stepped back from such statements, e.g. https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong). The GNU kind communication guidelines (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communicatio

Re: SimpleAgenda needs a maintainer

Hi Philippe, Steven Baker and I have been working on the SimpleAgenda code in our stream at objc-retain.com. We’d be happy to give the project a new home. Kind regards, Graham. > On 1 May 2021, at 23:44, Philippe Roussel wrote: > > Hi all, > > As some of you may have noticed I haven't been

Re: My future GNUstep contribution

Hi folks, Steven and I use the FSF’s jitsi instance for the [objc retain]; stream and it works really well (my home broadband is more of a problem than it ever is). I’ve also used jitsi for larger group chats. I’m sure it’ll be fine, please let us know if we can help set something up. Cheers,

Re: Notes from GNUstep quarterly meet up...

Hi all, If we do collectively decide to record next time, I’d be happy to capture the recording and host the video at https://replay.objc-retain.com/ Cheers, Graham. > On 23 Aug 2021, at 00:35, Svetlana Tkachenko wrote: > >  >> >> I couldn't join at that hour-time... next time a bit later

Re: GNUstep on Hackernews

Hi all, From: Riccardo Mottola To: Liam Proven , discuss-gnustep Sent: 14/12/2021 3:29 PM Subject: Re: GNUstep on Hackernews They evaluated us and discarded GNUstep on what basis? I had no interaction with any of them nor did i see things on the mailing list. The hello sys

Re: Compiling GNUStep on MAC OSX

tep mailing list > Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep -- Graham Lee Smartphone Security Boffin, Fuzzy Aliens Limited Your App. Secured. http://fuzzyaliens.com Fuzzy Aliens Limited is a Company registered in England Reg No. 7459269.

Re: Even weirder

On 12 Jun 2012, at 08:12, Ivan Vučica wrote: > This one looks interesting and getting in touch with the developer may be > interesting. > > Especially now that we're getting a QuartzCore implementation. > > Do -make and -base work with Apple's runtime? Yes. I usually develop on a Mac with make