Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
Right, well after alot of fannying about playlists are still the biggest pain in the arse ever. I have used various other programs to create a playlist. My preference was winamp as I already used that alot. I put the playlist on my NAS drive in my playlist folder that the SBC looks at. The squeeze centre sees the playlist but doesnt show any songs in there. after looking at the format of the playlist and comparing it to one that i put together using the SB interface i noticed the structure was slightly differnt, the slashes where the other way round and i had the ip of my nas in which wasnt necessary, so i ammended my created playlist. The playlist is just a txt file. So i was expecting when i chose to rescan the playlist it would take about 10 seconds...however it seems to do all sorts of other stuff like merge Various Artists?!? Once I have my playlists setup correctly I will be relativly happy with the SB as I will just hit go and wont have to touch the god aweful interface again!! The interface is shocking for this product, is there an enhancement request I can raise/log against in the hope that they may actually spend a bit of time developing it?!? I wonder if the developers actually tested it in anger before releasing it Thanks to everyone who offered me suggestions -- bob_mcbob bob_mcbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
Hi Pski thanks for your input. I'll have a look at the Custom browse, sounds promising, but at first glance does that only effect the interface on my computer or the menus on the duet?? Eitherway I would agrue that I shouldnt have to download additonal third party plugins to do something that is rather basic these days. I am interested in your comment about the compute power of the NAS. Are you implying that the menues on the duet are slow becuase of the NAS? I find that a little strange as even when im not looking at my library, but perhaps going between the standard menus, things dont seem very quick. Any pointers to check things/speed it up? Also, out of interest would you agree with the points I made? Do you find the interface lacking somewhat? Again, thanks for the reply. Bob -- bob_mcbob bob_mcbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
Depending on the model, ReadyNAS just don't have the compute power for a great Squeezebox experience. NAS = network attached STORAGE = not a server -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - INGUZ DRC - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
bob_mcbob;610263 Wrote: Are you implying that the menues on the duet are slow becuase of the NAS? I find that a little strange as even when im not looking at my library, but perhaps going between the standard menus, things dont seem very quick. Any pointers to check things/speed it up? Bob Maybe there's a misconception here. The menus aren't 'on' your duet exactly - everything you see, including the content of the menus, is served up by SBS on your NAS. -- chill chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
For a simple comparison try running SBS on a regular computer, load a few albums on that computer, connect Duet to SBS on that computer. Seem a little snappier and more responsive? Also, make sure server is wired regardless of type. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
Scrolling through a large library on a controller is definitely awful, even with a fast server. I got a controller when they first came out but now use iPeng on my iPhone. The controller is slow, clunky and unintuitive compared with iPeng on an iPhone... and all the other third party Squeezebox apps I've tried for iPhone and Android. Pair a controller with an underpowered NAS and you're bound to be a bit disappointed. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
Thanks every one for your responses. ModelCitizen - im glad im not the only one who is experiencing this. Ill have a look at the tools you mentioned. From the sounds of it you have a controller, so seems strange you are happy to use your iPhone to do the job of it. Chill - Thanks alot, I didnt realise that, and it explains alot. Seems strange to be streaming the menus to the controller, you would think it would update the controller with the relevant interface to make sure it was quick. Persumably since the SBS creates the list of my library, does it even need to stream the library?! surly it just needs the list of folders availble uploaded to the controller, which then just creates the link to play the file. Of course I know that I am looking at this all very simply, however I just cant help that the whole thing could be done better. Phil Leigh - thanks for your response - though i have to admit not one i like to hear!! I would assume that most poeple use their squeezebox with a normal computer switched on then?? Which is what I was trying to avoid. Since one of the ReadyNAS's selling points is that it has the SBS (among others) built in, its a bit of a disspointment to hear it may not be up to the job. Since I have to use my NAS to store my music on, its pointless testing my local machine as thats not how I would use it Thanks everyone for your input. Seems like the playlists are a problem at thier end, however the slowness is possibly an issue with my setup. peace Bob -- bob_mcbob bob_mcbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
bob_mcbob;610374 Wrote: From the sounds of it you have a controller, so seems strange you are happy to use your iPhone to do the job of it. It's not. I doubt if there is anyone who has used both a controller and iPeng on an iPhone who would not state that the iPhone is not hugely better. The other third party apps are better thsan the controller too. I just have less experience of them. Good luck. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
ModelCitizen;610380 Wrote: It's not. I doubt if there is anyone who has used both a controller and iPeng on an iPhone who would not state that the iPhone is not hugely better. The other third party apps are better thsan the controller too. I just have less experience of them. Good luck. MC iPhone controllers are better as they have a touch screen, easier to navigate, better for playlists and aesthetically better. The duet was launched before that type of app took off and was quickly overtaken for many. however the duet controller can have some benefits, its a dedicated controller as opposed to a device that you use for calls, texts, email, internet etc. etc., I find it a lot quicker to control my SB players from the Duet controller or Touch remote then iPeng, in the living room I would say that the Touch remote shades iPeng usage (however iPeng always used if friends are round and I'm in showing off mode!!), another reason is battery life. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
IMHO, even if it's working great, I've always had the feeling that the SB Duet is the weakest link of the Squeezebox line. I've bought all Squeezebox model since 2005. I've fallen in love of my SB3, Boom, Touch and Radio, but The Duet has never been the one I would recommend to a friend. There is no better Squeezebox experience then to couple a player with iPeng for iPad (btw, I bought an Ipad for that). I've even more fun controlling my SB3 with it's IR remote then using the controller. -- didjean Slim SB3 + Cambridge Audio 640R + Cambridge Audio DAC Magic + Q Acoustics 1050i ** SB Touch + Yamaha DSP A595 + Morel Applause MKII ** Duet (just the controller is still being used) ** SB Boom ** SB Radio (Red) ** IpengHD SqueezePad on iPad ** Logitech Harmony 900 ** Windows 7 + Squeezebox Server 7.5.2 on ASRock ION 330 didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
my wife likes the controller. But she is just picking favorites I've setup for her (either internet radio, or some dynamic playlist favorites) or using the volume up or down. I prefer ipeng on my iphone. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
bob_mcbob;610263 Wrote: Hi Pski thanks for your input. I'll have a look at the Custom browse, sounds promising, but at first glance does that only effect the interface on my computer or the menus on the duet?? Eitherway I would agrue that I shouldnt have to download additonal third party plugins to do something that is rather basic these days. I am interested in your comment about the compute power of the NAS. Are you implying that the menues on the duet are slow becuase of the NAS? I find that a little strange as even when im not looking at my library, but perhaps going between the standard menus, things dont seem very quick. Any pointers to check things/speed it up? Also, out of interest would you agree with the points I made? Do you find the interface lacking somewhat? Again, thanks for the reply. Bob Hi Bob, The plug-in lets you add the artist by letter to the menus on the controller. p -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feedback on my device
bob_mcbob;610187 Wrote: Hi there, I recently purchased a squeezebox duet and use it in conjunciton with my ready NAS. It seemed like the ideal situation and whilst it does work there are a few grievances, which I thought I would share and see what peoples thoughts are... 1.The method to create playlists has got to be the worst I have ever seen. Using the controller is very hard and the squeezecentre is absolutly rubbish. What have other people been doing? This infact has put me off using the kit quite alot and would probably stop me from recommending it. 2. Using the controller itself is rather good (the buttons are wellpoistioned etc), and easy to get to grips with, however, scrolling down a huge list is extreamly tiresome, i have a big library and getting to a band/song is painful. Surely theres an easier way? Perhaps when doing a fast spin the alphabet appears so you can quickly get to a letter? 3. The interface is just about adequate (i believe it was alot worse in the past) however it just doesnt cut it when compared other interfaces that are out these days. I would like to know if other people find it slow and sometimes unresponsive??Just navigating between menus seems to be effort for the device when infact I was expecting it to be slick and efficient. At first I thought it was becuase im using it wirelssly - but the connection is good, and I experience the same when wired. Then i thought perhaps its becuase my library is big(around 150Gb - which i think is big but may not be) so it was constantly looking through it...but then I thought thats the job of the scan process, to make browsing through my music quick and painless?? 4. This really is a continuation of 2 and 3 but has anyone else experienced getting in a loop when trying to scroll through your list of music, e.g. it gets to the end of all the artists in L and rather then going to M it starts back at L? ITs a pain in the arsea and usually happens when trying to scroll quickly The interface should be slick, quick and effortloss. At the moment it is slow and painful. I do really like the idea of the device but in practice the things listed above really annoy me and let the device down, what do other people think? I believe if the squeezebox team put abit of effort into polishing the GUI and the general working of the device it would easily be the best out there and would be well worth recommending. Until then I have to admit I am rather dissapointed. Peace BoB Hi Bob, Welcome to the fun. If the interface is slow, that can be blamed on the compute power of your NAS. There is a plug-in called Custom Browse that allows you to add a menu item that lets you scroll the letters rather than scrolling through the whole list. You might want to look into the Moose program which is an alternative to the webUI for your PC. P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
