Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2019-05-10 Thread didjean


Paul Webster wrote: 
> I did hear back that the key must be kept private - so should not be
> embedded in open source code (like LMS plugin).
That's a sad news to start the weekend ;-)
Thx for your feedback!



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2019-05-10 Thread Paul Webster


I did hear back that the key must be kept private - so should not be
embedded in open source code (like LMS plugin).



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2019-05-10 Thread didjean


Did you ever receive any answer form them?



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Webster

I did not ask about pricing.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread bpa

Paul Webster wrote: 
> I also asked about key in open source and am expecting the answer to be
> that it would not be allowed.
> Hence my comment that it would have to be in some sort of external
> service - which would then act as a sort of proxy for the API calls.


Did you also ask about the "pricing"  ?

Do vendors like Sonos pay Radioplayer to use the API ?



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Webster

I also asked about key in open source and am expecting the answer to be
that it would not be allowed.
Hence my comment that it would have to be in some sort of external
service - which would then act as a sort of proxy for the API calls.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread bpa

Paul Webster wrote: 
> I just checked with @radiomikehill (RadioPlayer boss) and he says it is
> developer key.

In many apps a develope key is usually embedded in the app and users
never see it nor can change it.  LMS plugins are unusual in that the
plugin is in clear text and the key is easily read.  Not sure about
Radioplayer but a key per app implementation can cause problem as apps
can be monitored through the developer key and if an app misbehaves
(e.g. makes too many request per min) - all userrsof the key can get
locked out until developer fix the app or time period expires - this
doesn't fit well with LMS.

This single developer key per app make me reluctant to develop a plugin.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread Michael Herger

I just checked with @radiomikehill (RadioPlayer boss) and he says it is
developer key.


Thanks, makes sense. (I've sent a mail a few hours ago - for which I 
haven't received any response yet)


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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Webster

I just checked with @radiomikehill (RadioPlayer boss) and he says it is
developer key.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread bpa

Paul Webster wrote: 
> My interpretation was that the end-user is the developer.
> I don't imagine that they would want keys to be delivered in open source
> software which would mean that mysqueezebox/LMS-in-the-clouds would have
> to play a role.
Looking at API - there are two keys used together
1. Developer 
2. End user



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Webster

My interpretation was that the end-user is the developer.
I don't imagine that they would want keys to be delivered in open source
software which would mean that mysqueezebox/LMS-in-the-clouds would have
to play a role.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread Michael Herger

It seems the developer needs to get a Key and also talk about pricing !!


Reading the first paragraph sounds as if the _end_user_ would need some 
key, too?!?


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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread bpa

mherger wrote: 
> I'm not seeing myself add another project to my task list... but if 
> anybody was interested: they seem to have an official API now.
> 
> http://docs.api.radioplayer.org/docs.html#/
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

It seems the developer needs to get a Key and also talk about pricing !!



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread Michael Herger
I'm not seeing myself add another project to my task list... but if 
anybody was interested: they seem to have an official API now.


http://docs.api.radioplayer.org/docs.html#/

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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2018-03-29 Thread didjean

Hi Squeezebox friends!
Was wondering if there is a chance that one day someone would be
interested to develop a Radioplayer plugin for Squeezebox? Unfortunately
I am not a developer and I would love to see this integrated into my
Squeezebox experience...
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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-11 Thread Man in a van

castalla wrote: 
> Interesting ... but I can't find Radioplayer on my Sonos.

Man in a van wrote: 
> There is a web app for the chrome browser.
> 
> I'll check out the Sonos tomorrow.
> 
> ronnie
> 
> Hope you are both well :)


here you go 

23085

23086

Click through a couple of installation pages

23087

No indication of bitrate, and not much meta data but sounds pretty good
to these old ears

23088


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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
> I knew app installation was geoblocked (e.g. can't install Radioplayer
> UK app in Ireland but can play UK station form Radioplayer UK browser
> page) but is playing any of the stations geoblocked or just the ones
> that are normally "geoblocked" such as Absolute.

No stations are listed - just info that RP is 'not yet available in your
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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
> Finally got it added to Sonos BUT it's geoblocked.

I knew app installation was geoblocked (e.g. can't install Radioplayer
UK app in Ireland but can play UK station form Radioplayer UK browser
page) but is playing any of the stations geoblocked or just the ones
that are normally "geoblocked" such as Absolute.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread castalla

Finally got it added to Sonos BUT it's geoblocked.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread castalla

Man in a van wrote: 
> There is a web app for the chrome browser.
> 
> I'll check out the Sonos tomorrow.
> 
> ronnie
> 
> Hope you are both well :)

Thanks!  As well as can be expected!



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread Man in a van

castalla wrote: 
> Thanks.  The Radioplayer stubbornly refuses to display in any Sonos
> menus.  Maybe it's geo-locked.

There is a web app for the chrome browser.

I'll check out the Sonos tomorrow.

ronnie

Hope you are both well :)



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
> Mistaken it was on the radioplayer.de web site
> https://www.radioplayer.de/apps/sonos.html
> 
> But there is also a youtube - check at 1:00 where using App
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdFwMEGOJ-0

Thanks.  The Radioplayer stubbornly refuses to display in any Sonos
menus.  Maybe it's geo-locked.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
> Where did you find the Sonos website info?

Mistaken it was on the radioplayer.de web site
https://www.radioplayer.de/apps/sonos.html

But there is also a youtube - check at 1:00 where using App
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdFwMEGOJ-0



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
> Looking at Sonos web site it is very new (27 June?) and it is accessed
> through an app on phone/tablet.

Where did you find the Sonos website info?



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
> Interesting ... but I can't find Radioplayer on my Sonos.

Looking at Sonos web site it is very new (27 June?) and it is accessed
through an app on phone/tablet.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread castalla

Interesting ... but I can't find Radioplayer on my Sonos.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-10 Thread bpa

I did a wireshark snoop on Android Radioplayer app - and although it did
use an api.radioplayer.ie address - when it tried to play audio it
fetched a "page" from station which included html+JS and I assume the
playing URL was found and then used.  Didn't do much more digging.  I
suspect SONOS will be similar - the app will fetch same html+JS and then
pass playing URL to SONOS device.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread didjean

mherger wrote: 
> > French speaking Belgian radios have (temporarily I hope) abandoned
> > Tunein in favour of Radioplayer (maradio.be).
> > It seems it's a trend that some state radios are moving to:
> > http://www.radioplayerworldwide.com/
> > Apparently they have just integrated it to Sonos. Is there anything
> > implemented yet on the LMS side?
> 
> I've seen this coming (people included @mysqueezebox on Twitter). But 
> no, I don't even know whether they have an API, or how they model works.
> 
> Will try to find more information.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

I was the guy mentioning @mysqueezebox on Twitter ;-)

Beacuse of that stupid decision to drop TuneIn, I am using URLs to
stream French speaking Belgian radios for half a year now... And last
week, without notice, they changed their addresses! So I am looking for
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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread bpa

mherger wrote: 
> > Usual approaches:
> > 1. google "radioplayer co uk v3" and other variations to see if
> anybody
> > has written anything down
> > 2. Use debug console on Chrome (i.e "Inspect" and look at Network
> tab).
> > Radioplayer has a Chrome extension.
> 
> Did you ever try to get in touch with them? As Sonos has some level of 
> integration I would assume they do have an API we could use... the 
> station list you found a URL for would only point to the web page 
> player. From there to the actual stream URL some web page parsing is 
> still involved. Ugly and prone to errors...l

I didn't contact them.  It is not a service I was too interested in. 
Before the reference to Sonos - I thought the way they provides player
was essentially a browser app (i.e.html+JS) which just looked similar
for each station - the only real addon was the realtime metadata.  

Because of the ugly parsing which is time consuming and also not always
possible because each Radioplayer app might be different (although
looking similar) and  because there are relatively few stations - I
suggested just put together an OPML list as it will weed out the
unspported ones (e.g. Flash)



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Herger

Usual approaches:
1. google "radioplayer co uk v3" and other variations to see if anybody
has written anything down
2. Use debug console on Chrome (i.e "Inspect" and look at Network tab).
Radioplayer has a Chrome extension.


Did you ever try to get in touch with them? As Sonos has some level of 
integration I would assume they do have an API we could use... the 
station list you found a URL for would only point to the web page 
player. From there to the actual stream URL some web page parsing is 
still involved. Ugly and prone to errors...


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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread bpa

mherger wrote: 
> Thank you very much! Where did you find this information?!?l

I've messed about with Radioplayer before from an Irish point of view
and also getting realtime info for BBCiPlayer.

Usual approaches:
1. google "radioplayer co uk v3" and other variations to see if anybody
has written anything down
2. Use debug console on Chrome (i.e "Inspect" and look at Network tab). 
Radioplayer has a Chrome extension.

I don't believe Radioplayer relays the audio so then it is likely that
either a station has a special browser Radioplayer for themselves (e.g.
BBC  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_two ) which can then
play according their own streaming protocol  DASH or Flash or use a
variation of Radioplayer supplied html player which takes the stations
own Flash or MP3 stream (e.g. http://www.three.fm/radioplayer ) and
playable URL may be in definition of the the JS variable audioURL.

Except for the metadata rather than develop a Radioplayer plugin - it
may easier just to create an opml file of stations (basis of list is the
API return) and then find associated playable URLs.



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Herger

Thank you very much! Where did you find this information?!?

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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread bpa

Just found a better API which returns a station list 

http://search.radioplayer.co.uk/qp/v3/stations
http://search.maradio.be/qp/v3/stations
http://search.radioplayer.ie/qp/v3/stations



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread bpa

mherger wrote: 
> > For Irish site Radioplayer.ie and UK Radiopplayer.co.uk and Belgium
> > maradio.be the following URL returns program info in JSON
> > where XXX is your query string and epoch time is then end parameter.
> 
> What would that query be?
> 
> These calls don't cover the station discovery, do they? It seems those 
> stations are no longer listed in TuneIn at all. And some people rely on
> 
> TuneIn or favorites set there to listen to their stations.
> 

AFAICT The query matches any of Radioplayer "resources" which can be a
personality, a station name or a program title .  The results marked as
"live" are likely to be stations (and further comparison with name can
be done in a plugin) so easy to separate - for example. Search UK for
query "Cla" as a beginning to "Classic" returns the following - The
Radio 2 result is because at the time the "Claire Maxim Radio show" is
playing.  I have only done a little examination of API as I was more
interested in realtime metadata for BBC. 

Query
http://search.radioplayer.co.uk/qp/v3/suggest?query=cla=radioplayer.search.receiveSuggest=128=128&_=1499610580

Code:


  {
  "keywords": [
  {
  "name": "claire martin"
  },
  {
  "name": "claudia winkleman"
  },
  {
  "name": "clare balding"
  }
  ],
  "live": [
  {
  "rpId": "256",
  "serviceName": "Classic FM",
  "description": "The World's Greatest Music",
  "url": "http:\/\/www.classicfm.com\/radio\/player",
  "imageUrl": 
"https:\/\/ukrpimagecache.s3.amazonaws.com\/image\/256_86x48_2017-03-07-17-00-42-740.png"
  },
  {
  "rpId": "1003",
  "serviceName": "Manx Radio FM ",
  "name": "Claare ny Gael",
  "description": "Bob Carswell",
  "url": "http:\/\/www.manxradio.com\/radioplayer\/",
  "imageUrl": "http:\/\/mm.gmstatic.net\/147\/720035.jpg",
  "startTime": "1499626800"
  },
  {
  "rpId": "1002",
  "serviceName": "Manx Radio AM",
  "name": "Claare ny Gael",
  "description": "Bob Carswell",
  "url": "http:\/\/www.manxradio.com\/radioplayer\/am\/",
  "imageUrl": "http:\/\/mm.gmstatic.net\/147\/720035.jpg",
  "startTime": "1499626800"
  },
  {
  "rpId": "1368",
  "serviceName": "Castledown FM",
  "name": "Claire Maxim Sunday Show",
  "description": "We are at the very heart of the Tidworth Community Area and 
give local people, groups and organisations an opportunity to have their voices 
heard within our community.",
  "url": "http:\/\/www.castledownfm.com\/radioplayer\/",
  "imageUrl": 
"https:\/\/ukrpimagecache.s3.amazonaws.com\/image\/1368_86x48_2017-03-28-10-15-24-178.png",
  "startTime": "1499626800"
  },
  {
  "rpId": "342",
  "serviceName": "BBC Radio 2",
  "name": "Claudia on Sunday : Ore Oduba sits in",
  "description": "Ore Oduba sits in for Claudia Winkleman to banish the blues 
on a Sunday night.",
  "url": "http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/radio\/player\/bbc_radio_two",
  "imageUrl": "http:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/images\/ic\/86x48\/p050fz3s.jpg",
  "startTime": "1499623200"
  },
  {
  "rpId": "104",
  "serviceName": "Absolute Classic Rock",
  "name": "Non-stop Classic Rock",
  "description": "Non-Stop music on Absolute Classic Rock, playing Rock's 
greatest hits from AC\/DC to ZZ Top. Get involved at 
facebook.com\/AbsoluteClassicRock",
  "url": "http:\/\/player.absoluteradio.co.uk\/core\/radioplayer\/ac\/",
  "imageUrl": 
"http:\/\/network.absoluteradio.co.uk\/core\/player\/djs\/radioplayer\/rock.jpg",
  "startTime": "1499626800"
  }
  ],
  "onDemand": [
  {
  "rpId": "353",
  "serviceName": "BBC Radio Ulster",
  "name": "Classical Connections with John Toal : A James Bond Special",
  "description": "Featuring the Ulster Orchestra performing Bond classics, from 
Goldfinger to Skyfall. With soloists Matt Ford and Alison Jiear, and conductor 
Stephen Bell.",
  "url": "http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/radio\/player\/b08xcjgh",
  "imageUrl": "http:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/images\/ic\/86x48\/p0581g78.jpg",
  "startTime": "1499616000"
  },
  {
  "rpId": "320",
  "serviceName": "BBC Radio Manchester",
  "name": "Mike Sweeney : Sweeney's Sixties Classics (09\/07\/2017)",
  "description": "Mike plays more great songs from the 1960s, including some of 
his forgotten gems.",
  "url": "http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/radio\/player\/p0572tqr",
  "imageUrl": "http:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/images\/ic\/86x48\/p02m8fml.jpg",
  "startTime": "1499608800"
  },
  {
  "rpId": "1390",
  "serviceName": "Upload Radio Wrexham, Chester and Liverpool",
  "name": "CDNX - A Selection of Classic, New & Upfront Indie Alternatives 
ft.The Drums, Cardiacs, Elvis Costello and Milk Music",
  "description": "CDNX with The Bravery, Ride and Dodgy: A Selection of 
Classic, New & Upfront Indie Alternatives ft.The Drums, Cardiacs, Elvis 
Costello and Milk Music",
  "url": 
"http:\/\/beta.uploadradio.com\/player\/wrexhamchesterliverpool\/?rpAodUrl=https:\/\/s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/uploadradio\/listen-again\/3853c08231a90b696bcc5044b1349ddded05eb8e.mp3",
  "imageUrl": 

Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Herger

For Irish site Radioplayer.ie and UK Radiopplayer.co.uk and Belgium
maradio.be the following URL returns program info in JSON
where XXX is your query string and epoch time is then end parameter.


What would that query be?

These calls don't cover the station discovery, do they? It seems those 
stations are no longer listed in TuneIn at all. And some people rely on 
TuneIn or favorites set there to listen to their stations.


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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread bpa

mherger wrote: 
> > French speaking Belgian radios have (temporarily I hope) abandoned
> > Tunein in favour of Radioplayer (maradio.be).
> > It seems it's a trend that some state radios are moving to:
> > http://www.radioplayerworldwide.com/
> > Apparently they have just integrated it to Sonos. Is there anything
> > implemented yet on the LMS side?
> 
> I've seen this coming (people included @mysqueezebox on Twitter). But 
> no, I don't even know whether they have an API, or how they model works.
> 
> Will try to find more information.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

For Irish site Radioplayer.ie and UK Radiopplayer.co.uk and Belgium
maradio.be the following URL returns program info in JSON
where XXX is your query string and epoch time is then end parameter.

http://search.radioplayer.ie/qp/v3/suggest?query=XXX=radioplayer.search.receiveSuggest=128=128&_=1499610580

To get realtime program metadata the following only works for UK URL -
maybe a variation willwork for other countries. - rpid identifier
station  and is  retrieved from the query result
http://np.radioplayer.co.uk/qp/v3/onair?rpIds=343=100=100=100



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Re: [slim] Is there any Radioplayer plugin for LMS?

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Herger

French speaking Belgian radios have (temporarily I hope) abandoned
Tunein in favour of Radioplayer (maradio.be).
It seems it's a trend that some state radios are moving to:
http://www.radioplayerworldwide.com/
Apparently they have just integrated it to Sonos. Is there anything
implemented yet on the LMS side?


I've seen this coming (people included @mysqueezebox on Twitter). But 
no, I don't even know whether they have an API, or how they model works. 
Will try to find more information.


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