[ACFUG Discuss] livedocs cf8

2008-01-14 Thread Steven Ross
anyone know a way to get rid of the left sidebar on the livedocs for CF8? -- Steven Ross web application & interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] 267-482-4364 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ]

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Kitchens, Brent
I started using CF 5 years ago and came from an asp/c++ background. I'd never seen a CF block of code before. It took me about a week to become productive with CF, but only about a day to see how intuitive the language was. Now I wouldn't want to use anything else - but looks like Flex is my next

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Dan Kaufman
Thanks to John, and as initiated by Sean Corfield, for pointing out that all of us are in part responsible for building and strengthening the Cold Fusion Community. Sean's blog makes a number of very good points, such as what we learned in college/university and what we use in the real world is o

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Dean H. Saxe
I know, amazing, right? ;-) -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, be

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Steven Ross
IMHO easier to understand and code... comparing to java, ruby, php (which I have worked in). However I agree with you that if you have been developing in X language for so long that it is probably easier for you than a new language (as anything new is). I would say with all things being equal thoug

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Dean H. Saxe
FWIW, I was playing devil's advocate... Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Dissent is the purest form of patriotism." --Thomas Jefferson On Jan 14, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Dean H. Saxe wrote: Easier to understand and code for who? Some people enjoy coding in other languages and are

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Dean H. Saxe
Easier to understand and code for who? Some people enjoy coding in other languages and aren't looking for ease of use... -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them" --J

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Steven Ross
Hehe... maybe CF just needs updated marketing: Learn Coldfusion. Get a Job. Enjoy it. seems like a good marketing plan if you know any out of work java or php folks, or those that hate their job. Come learn CF: its easier to understand and code. Lots of people looking for CF developers... On Ja

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, if I can play devil's advocate for a moment, it's a nice thought (the doubling effect) but in reality the number of people who read CF blogs (let alone any one) is pretty small, so while we can hope that word could spread, it seems we should not get our hopes up of seeing hundreds, tens, or h

[ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

2008-01-14 Thread John Mason
Sean Corfield did a very interesting blog entry last week about the marketing and growth of the CF community. It's well worth the read.. http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Common_ColdFusion_Arg uments Sean gives a little challenge or new year's resolution if you like at the en