Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-27 Thread Andrew Burnette
I had similar thoughts a while back. doesn't always work out the way you think. (e.g. toyota prius, while a politically and technologically needed car, actually saves no energy over it's lifespan due to the enormous amount of front end manufacturing cost and material used). Here's what I did.

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-27 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Andrew Burnette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had similar thoughts a while back. doesn't always work out the way you think. (e.g. toyota prius, while a politically and technologically needed car, actually saves no energy over it's lifespan due to the enormous

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-27 Thread David Rees
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andrew Burnette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had similar thoughts a while back. doesn't always work out the way you think. (e.g. toyota prius, while a politically and technologically needed car, actually saves no energy over it's lifespan due to the enormous

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-27 Thread Jim Thompson
I find this an interesting argument, but I'd like to see some real analysis (with numbers), or at least sources. If you're right, I'm doing it wrong (3 old trucks (2 toyota landcruisers, one 67 chevy converted to a flatbed) + selling new computer components). I don't see much evidence

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-27 Thread David Rees
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Adam Van Ornum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate the ideas (even the car discussion is interesting ;) but I'm basically looking for something that will cover pretty decent throughput with as low energy usage as possible. Currently I'm on a cable connection

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-27 Thread Jim Thompson
On Jun 27, 2008, at 3:35 PM, David Rees wrote: Way OT, but hopefully others find it interesting... On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this an interesting argument, but I'd like to see some real analysis (with numbers), or at least sources. If

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-25 Thread Paul Mansfield
Adam Van Ornum wrote: Does anyone have any ALIX or Soekris kits that they don't need any more? I'm currently running pfSense on a dual P3 system at home and its way over-powered for what I need and I would like to get something that one of those new Intel Atom CPU motherboards would be

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:28:12AM +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote: one of those new Intel Atom CPU motherboards would be worth looking at too. Anyone aware of an affordable system with Nano or at least a C7, with decent (Intel would be best, but beggars can't be choosers) NICs onboard? Mini-ITX

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-25 Thread Paul Mansfield
Eugen Leitl wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:28:12AM +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote: one of those new Intel Atom CPU motherboards would be worth looking at too. Anyone aware of an affordable system with Nano or at least a C7, with decent (Intel would be best, but beggars can't be choosers)

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-25 Thread Simon Dick
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:14:35 +0100, Paul Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Eugen Leitl wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:28:12AM +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote: one of those new Intel Atom CPU motherboards would be worth looking at too. Anyone aware of an affordable system with Nano or

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 02:14:35PM +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote: Anyone aware of an affordable system with Nano or at least a C7, with decent (Intel would be best, but beggars can't be choosers) NICs onboard? Mini-ITX would be best. But any small brick or 19 1U form factor ok, too.

[pfSense-discussion] Used ALIX or Soekris?

2008-06-24 Thread Adam Van Ornum
Does anyone have any ALIX or Soekris kits that they don't need any more? I'm currently running pfSense on a dual P3 system at home and its way over-powered for what I need and I would like to get something that uses a lot less electricity and would be a lot quieter. I'm looking at getting an