[Distutils] Re: PEP-582 concerns

2019-03-02 Thread Alex Walters
> -Original Message- > From: Chad Smith > Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 1:33 PM > To: Alex Walters > Subject: Re: [Distutils] Re: PEP-582 concerns > > I was not aware that discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org> was > being used now. I started a th

[Distutils] Re: PEP-582 concerns

2019-03-01 Thread Alex Walters
I kind of feel that "third party tool can/will use this feature" is orthogonal to "how the interpreter behaves out of the box" - unless I misunderstand and you are suggesting python grow support for launching entrypoints from the python executable. > -Original Message- > From: chadsmit...@

[Distutils] PEP-582 concerns

2019-02-20 Thread Alex Walters
I have 2 main concerns about PEP 582 that might just be me misunderstanding the pep. My first concern is the use of CWD, and prepending ./_pypackages_ for scripts. For example, if you were in a directory with a _pypackages_ subdirectory, and had installed the module "super.important.module". My

[Distutils] Re: unifying package formats

2019-01-27 Thread Alex Walters
> -Original Message- > From: Antonio Cavallo > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:05 PM > To: Alex Walters > Subject: Re: [Distutils] unifying package formats > > I don't think they serve a much different scope after al:l both uncompress > files under a fil

[Distutils] Re: unifying package formats

2019-01-26 Thread Alex Walters
> -Original Message- > From: Antonio Cavallo > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:01 PM > To: distutils-sig@python.org > Subject: [Distutils] unifying package formats > > Hi, > is there any initiative to share a common package format between conda and > pip? They look very similar. > > T

[Distutils] Re: manylinux1 guidelines for zlib?

2018-09-04 Thread Alex Walters
Since zlib is a dependency of python, the assumption has to be that it is already present. I think you can look at the python docs for which versions of zlib you should be dynamically linking against. The docs state "There are known incompatibilities between the Python module and versions of the

[Distutils] Re: Packaging Advice for EFF's Certbot

2018-07-23 Thread Alex Walters
> -Original Message- > From: Nathaniel Smith > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:31 PM > To: Brad Warren > Cc: distutils-sig > Subject: [Distutils] Re: Packaging Advice for EFF's Certbot > > > Reading the problem description at the top of your document, my first > thought was that this

[Distutils] Re: sudo pip install: install pip files into /usr/local on Linux?

2018-05-23 Thread Alex Walters
From: Wes Turner Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 4:37 PM To: Alex Walters Cc: Victor Stinner ; distutils-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Distutils] sudo pip install: install pip files into /usr/local on Linux? On Wednesday, May 23, 2018, Alex Walters mailto:tritium-l...@sdamon.com

[Distutils] Re: sudo pip install: install pip files into /usr/local on Linux?

2018-05-23 Thread Alex Walters
I think the obvious, if socially hard solution, is to make pip panic when it sees its being run as root (without, perhaps, a flag to tell pip "No, I really mean it, run as root"), and default to --user. It is not a good idea to install packages system wide with pip for reasons more than just clobb

[Distutils] Re: org-mode README file formats

2018-05-08 Thread Alex Walters
If warehouse punted to a tool like pandoc already, I would see no problem with adding support for everything that pandoc supported (can you imagine – reademe.docx?), but just skimming the requirements file, they are pulling in docutils and mistune, which means they have written warehouse to supp

Re: [Distutils] [Python-ideas] Pypi private repo's

2018-04-04 Thread Alex Walters
I am fairly sure if you give the PyPA that suggestion, they will just deflate at the thought of the workload. Besides, we already offer private repos for free, several ways ranging from devpi to python -m SimpleHTTPServer in a specially created directory. From: Python-ideas On Behalf O

Re: [Distutils] Renaming this list to python-packaging

2018-03-19 Thread Alex Walters
There is a technical limitation that we would not be renaming the list as much as closing this one, and opening a new one. That creates any number of social problems, for little to no benefit – the name is slightly more relevant at the cost of breaking everyone’s subscriptions, and the mail fil

Re: [Distutils] draft PEP: manylinux2

2018-02-11 Thread Alex Walters
Just out of curiosity, I did a little experiment. I explained this thread to my mother. My mother is a wonderful woman, but she wouldn't know a byte from a bite. I explained it as follows: "There is a tool that can make software run on a lot of different computers, but only if you build it for

Re: [Distutils] draft PEP: manylinux2

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Walters
-Original Message- From: Alex Walters [mailto:tritium-l...@sdamon.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:21 AM To: 'Janzert' Subject: RE: [Distutils] draft PEP: manylinux2 > -Original Message- > From: Distutils-SIG [mailto:distutils-sig-bounces+tritiu

Re: [Distutils] print module

2018-01-30 Thread Alex Walters
This is not the correct list to ask about problems with your code (It is very likely that your program redefined the name print. Python-list would be the list to ask). There is no module to import to get the print function. There is a special import to turn the print keyword to the print functio

Re: [Distutils] Disabling non HTTPS access to APIs on PyPI

2017-10-27 Thread Alex Walters
> -Original Message- > From: Distutils-SIG [mailto:distutils-sig-bounces+tritium- > list=sdamon@python.org] On Behalf Of Erik Bray > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 11:16 AM > To: Distutils > Subject: Re: [Distutils] Disabling non HTTPS access to APIs on PyPI > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017

Re: [Distutils] new PyPI: a rant from a package maintainer

2017-08-05 Thread Alex Walters
> Also -- I know that the various tools involved are maintained by different > people, but it sure would be nice if, for instance, the latest versions of > setuptools and twine would not try to upload non longer supported file types! The tools should have better reporting on the errors pypi give

Re: [Distutils] Manual upload of RPM files no longer works

2017-07-25 Thread Alex Walters
If I remember correctly, RPM, DMG, and DPKG (if there was a DPKG distutils option) were disabled from uploading to pypi. I believe the recommendation is to use manylinux1 wheels or to set up private distro specific repositories. From: Distutils-SIG [mailto:distutils-sig-bounces+tritium-list

Re: [Distutils] Upload documentation to be hosted at ‘pythonhosted.org’

2017-07-04 Thread Alex Walters
While the topic of shutting down pythonhosted.org has come up, on and off, for a few years, there is one certain thing: The recommended documentation hosting platform of the python community is readthedocs.org. > -Original Message- > From: Distutils-SIG [mailto:distutils-sig-bounces+trit

Re: [Distutils] Switch PyPA from IRC to Gitter or similar

2016-06-10 Thread Alex Walters
Other than the fact that we now would need to redirect the 2000 (at any given time) users of #python, and 200 (roughly) users of #pypa to an inherently commercial, and frankly, hard to discover service? It's tantamount to discontinuing chat support, which if that’s what you want to do, so be it